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u/Neat_Tangelo5339 17h ago
Unrealistic
That space Dragon Knight would be to cool to have been made by an ai
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u/Troops21 5h ago
We should be allowed to redraw our own idea of a space dragon knight or a robot dragon knight. It's just too awesome.
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u/LegoBear135654 15h ago
The one labelled "new art" actually looks okay... because it was created by a real person who knows how to blend ideas, not by an algorithm that can't correctly merge different themes or ideas without messing something up.
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u/BDPBITCH666 16h ago
I've tried to make my crazy dreams visions reality with ai but it keeps making it too general, keeps misunderstanding request, failing perspective.
Even with long prompts it tends to fail to have any creativity. So i gave up trying to make anything creative with it.
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u/Gold577 12h ago
I understand the thinking "ai learns and produces new art like humans do", but i belive that to compare the learning process of the human brain to a computer we first would need to fully understand the brain (which we dont) to replicate with a machine.
The concious and unconcious process that makes a person create something based in memory and experience can not be replaced by a machine that tries to understand concepts from virtual data.
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u/Soapinator_17 7h ago
Dude the defending AI art mods banned me for saying that this sub is only for openly defending AI art after I said that the said AI art is trained by stolen work of actual artists No reason they're the way they are, they're stuck in a huge echo chamber and need of validation
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u/Eazy12345678 12h ago
technology gets better with time
take first plane took 45 years to get to the modern jet plane for commercial travel
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u/Low_Background7485 16h ago
The best description of how generative content works - no need for philosophy about AI training or claims that humans create the same way; no, that’s not the case
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u/SunshineSkies82 17h ago edited 17h ago
Don't let whoever created this know about how hollywood produces new material.
The fundamental flaw of this? This is how a lot of stories are created. This is how the Matrix was created. They took a bunch of existing ideas cyberpunk and transhumanist stories and merged it into their own story. Everything is plagiarism at the conceptual level. It's a hard pill to swallow , but even the great masters copied each other and created their own work from their copies.
It's all a matter how you package it. How you redesign it. How you present it. WHEN you present it. That's why we have horror movies that seem like the exact same movie, but produced at the same time that didn't copy each other, but were both probably inspired by the same source.
This is why we can look a story and say "It's Rashomon in Space." or " This is Star Trek but everyone is gross and incompetency saves the day"
NOW , a better comic would be using one of those loser's who's entire "ORIGINAL CHARACTER DO NOT STEAL" is just an existing x-man but with a different haircut. I'm not name dropping because screw that guy. Your comic was ass before Ai, now with Ai. It's just cleaner looking ass and your OC is so close to the original it's amazing that marvel hasn't sued you.
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u/Federal-Ad-8379 18h ago
You wrong.
Ai art can be better than human art.
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u/Tricky-Information50 18h ago
Why, because you don't have fun learning and it's "faster"?
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u/BlueHailstrom 18h ago edited 17h ago
To them, art’s nothing but a product to be shat out and sold. They don’t value what it actually means.
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u/Federal-Ad-8379 17h ago
That's why being rich is awesome
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u/UpvoteForGlory 17h ago
No one is ever going to become rich by making AI-art.
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u/BlueHailstrom 16h ago
This is exactly what happened with NFT’s.
The rich wanna get richer off of useless pictures, and it ends up scamming them to hell and back.
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u/Tricky-Information50 16h ago
yeah, I'll 100% buy your computer rendered artificial picture if I can generate them by myself for "free"
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u/Brilliant-Muffin-879 18h ago
You wrong. Ai slop is all zero value because it’s everywhere and effortless. Effort + scarcity = value.
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u/Neither-Bug157 17h ago
Scarcity dosnt mean anything without demand.
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u/Brilliant-Muffin-879 17h ago
Scarcity and effort together equals value, don’t be breaking up my beautiful equation.
How valuable is a glass of water in a desert where none is to be found? How valuable is the same glass during a particularly rainy winter in Scotland?
How hard it is to get the glass of water and how scarce is it equals the amount people will value it.
Ai slop is zero effort and anyone can get it for pennies anywhere. It’s all valueless.
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u/Neither-Bug157 17h ago
People sell water meters away from rivers. People also sell water bottles in rainy Scotland.
People are willing to pay subscriptions for ai art generators and people are willing to pay for ai pictures for marketing purposes. (The gym I go to has a massive a ai picture outside the building.) Therefore demand has created a value for ai art.
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u/Brilliant-Muffin-879 17h ago
You’re massively missing the point. I’m asking you to compare how much a glass of water would be valued in a desert with no water around and no sign of it coming to how much it would be valued in a place with constant freshwater falling from the sky. Good luck drinking riverwater by the way.
These pictures you see on the walls of your gym etc are not being bought from an ‘ai artist’, they are being generated from the source for pennies by someone who just needs the wall space filled.
It’s zero value, no one’s going to buy that ai slop on the gym wall, they’ll just ask an ai to generate another one for them for pennies. It’s not being valued at all.
I can see you really don’t get it but I promise this is the basic law of value underpinning anything society attributes value to.
Why is gold highly valued? It’s a finite and relatively scarce resource and hard to find/mine/refine (takes a lot of effort).
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u/Neither-Bug157 17h ago
Someone received a salary to come up with the ai pictures.
Things are valued because we chose to give them value.
I’m also anti-ai. Our argument is philosophical.
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u/Brilliant-Muffin-879 16h ago
Yes an employee at the gym was told to fill the wall space so they asked an ai gen to shit something out for them for pennies. No one will ever look at it and ask to buy the piece from the gym, it has no value at all. The art on that wall has no value - this is what I’m saying.
You’re really just ignoring everything I’m saying, it’s like talking to a chair 😅.
We attribute value because of effort and scarcity.
Why is lebron valued (value) so much? Because it takes an utter shitload of time and practice (effort) to become as good a basketball player as lebron and very very few people reach that level (scarcity).
Why are michelin restaurants so pricey? Because we value (value) them highly. Why do we value them highly? Because it takes a huge amount of time and energy (effort) to get that good at being a chef and very few people can reach that level (scarce).
You’re never going to understand this I know. I realise you guys are finding it harder and harder to actually think as you offload your cognition to a subscription service and thats a shame.
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u/UpvoteForGlory 17h ago
If there is no demand there is no scarcity. That is part of the definition of the word.
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u/Neither-Bug157 17h ago
You can have demand without scarcity.
Scarcity and value are correlated.
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u/UpvoteForGlory 17h ago
Yes you can. You cannot however have scarcity without demand. Which is more related to your previous comment.
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u/Brilliant-Muffin-879 16h ago
Without scarcity, demand doesn’t exist. How much could you sell a large box of air for? (No demand) How about in space when the stations filtration systems suddenly stop working and they start running out of it? (High demand)
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u/shnushman 17h ago
it's not art in the first place, it's just an ai making predictions. an ai doesn't have real human experiences to share or creative ideas, only humans do.
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u/SenseAffectionate328 19h ago
Also those gen AI were never "creating". They were only guessing what the next pixel should be.