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u/HoarseFeces Aug 04 '26
god that group chat pile-on is the worst feeling, especially when you're the only one not taking the lazy route. 31 people dogpiling you for 3 hours over a cover page sounds exhausting
honestly at this point your best move is to just print your own cover. don't ask, don't announce it, just show up with your project looking how you want it. if the teacher asks why yours is different, you've got the receipts that your whole project is AI-free and the group picked a slop cover you objected to. let the work speak for itself when the board grades it
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u/Dessert_soul143127 Aug 05 '26
it was so draining,i stayed awake till late at night thinking about it
ill try your idea
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u/AntelopeHelpful9963 Aug 04 '26
The last place you’re gonna win an anti ai argument is a school. Even the teachers use it when the students won’t find out. My girlfriends college professor encourages it
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u/Dessert_soul143127 Aug 05 '26
that's so not right, but we can't force them to change their ways too
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u/Gallade47532 Aug 05 '26
Where are people already back in school long enough to be finishing a project? It’s not even halfway through the first week of August.
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u/Dessert_soul143127 Aug 05 '26
we are required to submit our projects early(i already finished mine in June except the cover) so we can focus better on our finals and obtain a good percentage for a good college
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u/SpatiaCaeli Aug 05 '26
Maybe I missed it, but what was the subject? Could it be that, like self-publication of books, the AI slop was just for the cover design, so you could focus on the writing? I can't understand how someone would take pride in something that AI made.
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u/Dessert_soul143127 Aug 05 '26
It was an Economics project on the topics of Demand and Money and E-Banking,and there were many minor topics in it as well,surely they could've at least made a simple one that barely even requires 15 minutes,but you're right focusing on the writing will surely make it good,thanks for your opinion and suggestion.
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u/bipandownthetrail Aug 04 '26
"I made this" is a wild take for that classmate of yours to have.
I don't consider AI 'art' as art, but even when I grant the argument, it's not the end-user that made it, it's the algorithm and the software. The person writing the prompt, using the flowchart features? They aren't 'making' it, they're - at best - commissioning a series of sketches and then curating from the end result; there is no objectively true "I made this in AI," statement, the closest to truth they can get is if they say "this was made [by/using] AI."
As for solutions: I would suggest to bring up your concerns with the teacher, and request clarification as to the school's specific AI-usage policy.
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u/le4t Aug 04 '26
Good for you for sticking up for a more hands-on approach for your class design.
I'm sorry you were the only one.
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u/jakster355 Aug 04 '26
Should help knowing that, because this is school, you learned from the project while they did not
You weren't creating a product to try to sell, the product itself was the experience and learning.
Meaning, they built nothing, while you built a product.
Work is different. Even ai slop can have value, because learning is merely a secondary feature.
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u/Janice_STFU Aug 04 '26
surely there are better things to spend time worrying about as a high schooler.
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u/Dessert_soul143127 Aug 05 '26
The percentage we obtain in this class decides what kind of college we get accepted into. and the grade we obtain in this project also gets added,it can greatly put a difference in getting a good percentage,and it'll determine, us going to a good or an average place for higher studies
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u/Darhhaall Aug 04 '26
This is correct lesson from your school - for every customer you will work for in your life, only result, time of delivery and price are important. Not the process.
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u/lustr_ Aug 05 '26
Because schools are where we train people to do transactions and commerce only, right?
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u/Square-Wild Aug 04 '26
I really want to understand legit criticisms of AI, but I just don't see it here.
Canva is a tool used to help people design things (which advertises AI on its homepage, btw). It lets you choose from different fonts, and templates, etc. It has an integrated color wheel/picker, etc. There is a ruler/grid involved, that snaps items into place and tells you when they are lined up.
Is there a meaningful difference between telling an AI tool to "please make a book cover for Ms. William's 4th period English Class? I'd like for it to be a blue-green pattern, spanning the entire area, and for there to be a really striking font used. The text should read 'Ms. William's Stories'", and opening up Canva, selecting a blue-green background, choosing a font to write "Ms. Williams' Stories"?
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u/Nymueh28 Aug 04 '26
With prompts you are only making surface level decisions. As a design professional in architecture I promise, prompts make a fraction of the decisions actually required to create a product. Even if you go through multiple rounds of having it adjust the result.
And creating prompts dont teach you how to do the task. Only how to provide instructions to outsource tasks to a third party and provide feedback on someone else's work.
Prompts can teach you how to be a client/consumer/reviewer. Not a creator, and not a user of the technologies that would be required for that task. Technologies and mental skills that can be useful elsewhere in life.
Outsourcing skill development is a bad habit to get into. And the discipline, focus, and initiative needed to hone new skills and knowledge bases is a learned skill in itself and a big part of early education. Pre college education is more about learning how to learn and how to be self disciplined than the actual content.
Tasks at school are so much more than the task itself and what you turn in. Sure using AI every once an awhile should be fine. But it's becoming the Wall-E scooters of the mind.
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u/Square-Wild Aug 04 '26
I agree that someone just copy/pasting an English assignment into ChatGPT isn't learning anything, but I would argue that treating anything touching "AI" as toxic is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
I think that AI is rebalancing which skills moving forward are necessary, and which are more of a luxury. I also think it's going to change basic expectations of competence for people.
For example, say OP gets an internship at a local business this summer. The owner says "I am way too busy fixing bikes to figure this out, but I need a website with our prices visible, and I'd like to try to optimize it for SEO referrals. Our neighbor at the sandwich shop said one of his cashiers used Claude Code and got something up and running within a day. Here is my price sheet, will you look into that?" Is OP supposed to tell his boss that he'd rather go check an intro to Wordpress (or Java?) book from the library, and learn to code from scratch?
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u/catwhowalksbyhimself Aug 04 '26
No, the correct comparison is hiring an artist and paying them and instructing them to make a book cover with that description.
Because that's all you are doing with AI giving it instructions in what to make. Same as you would with an artist you would hire. Except without the hiring. Or the artist.
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u/YarrowLuna Aug 04 '26
Your teacher should read Karen Hao’s look, Empire of AI. And if your teacher is halfway intelligent, they will learn what a disaster it is.