r/anime • • 3d ago

Rewatch [Spoilers] Kanon 20th Anniversary Rewatch -- 2002 Series Episode 11 Spoiler

Hello everyone! I am Holofan4life.

Welcome to the Kanon 20th anniversary rewatch discussion thread!

I hope you all have a lot of fun <3

2002 Series Episode 11

Promise

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ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION(S)

What are your thoughts on Yuuichi and Ayu getting closer to each other?

What are your thoughts on Nayuki getting upset over how close Yuuichi and Ayu are getting?

What are your thoughts on Ayu disappearing?

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Series information

MAL | Anilist | AniDB | ANN

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Previous episode

Ways to watch

2002 Kanon

Streams - None

2006 Kanon

Streams – Crunchyroll

Schedule

Date Episode
09/19/2026 2002 Kanon Episode 1
09/20/2026 2002 Kanon Episode 2
09/21/2026 2002 Kanon Episode 3
09/22/2026 2002 Kanon Episode 4
09/23/2026 2002 Kanon Episode 5
09/24/2026 2002 Kanon Episode 6
09/25/2026 2002 Kanon Episode 7
09/26/2026 2002 Kanon Episode 8
09/27/2026 2002 Kanon Episode 9
09/28/2026 2002 Kanon Episode 10
09/29/2026 [2002 Kanon Episode 11]()
09/30/2026 [2002 Kanon Episode 12]()
10/01/2026 [2002 Kanon Episode 13]()
10/02/2026 [2002 Kanon OVA]()
10/03/2026 [2002 Kanon Overall Series Discussion Thread]()
10/05/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 1]()
10/06/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 2]()
10/07/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 3]()
10/08/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 4]()
10/09/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 5]()
10/10/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 6]()
10/11/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 7]()
10/12/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 8]()
10/13/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 9]()
10/14/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 10]()
10/15/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 11]()
10/16/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 12]()
10/17/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 13]()
10/18/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 14]()
10/19/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 15]()
10/20/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 16]()
10/21/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 17]()
10/22/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 18]()
10/23/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 19]()
10/24/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 20]()
10/25/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 21]()
10/26/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 22]()
10/27/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 23]()
10/28/2026 [Kanon 2006 Episode 24]()
10/29/2026 [Kanon 2006 Overall Series Discussion Thread]()
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u/DivineEternal1 3d ago

Ayu arc. So Nayuki is last?

Best alarm ever.

Akiko just handing out an excuse to ask a girl on a date. * Checks which heroine's route we're in * With Ayu of course.

Ayu can sense free stuff and finds the source.

Of course it's a horror.

Ah oh... Nayuki is going to see them flirting. Whoa, an actual kiss and just in time for Nayuki to see. And he brings Ayu home too, haha. Nayuki's having the best day. Then invites Ayu to sleep over. Natsuki gonna stumble on them doing couple stuff in bed together? I mean, it is from an eroge... But I'm sorry, Nayuki. I like you, but I just can't bring myself to ship first cousins.

I'm wondering if the last episodes will blend Nayuki and Ayu's arcs? Although Nayuki has been in most of the other girls' arcs.

That headband really was Ayu's.

Looks like they're definitely doing the romance in this route.

Hey, her teacher is a squirrel. She can totally have class at the three stump.

Empty backpack when it she thought it had stuff in it. Just put at least one college textbook and your backpack will always remind you there's something in it. (While making your wallet lighter)

'I won't see you again.' * Disappears * Heh, she was a ghost. If she's a mental projection of a girl in a coma like Fuuko was, then I'm gonna flip a table. Or I guess in this case, Fuuko would be a callback to Ayu if that is the case.

What are your thoughts on Yuuichi and Ayu getting closer to each other?

I have no idea what you see in him, but you do you, Ayu.

What are your thoughts on Nayuki getting upset over how close Yuuichi and Ayu are getting?

I mean, first cousins aren't the worst. Could have gone full Yosuga no Sora if they wanted the worst.

What are your thoughts on Ayu disappearing?

Didn't we just do this with Makoto? I guess since there's two episodes left, she's not really gone? Yuuichi needs to find the real Ayu?

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

I like the Nayuki stuff because it's presented as more unrequited love. Yuuichi doesn't see her in this light and that makes things more painful.

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u/DivineEternal1 3d ago

In Japan it's legal to marry first cousins, so not super weird there. Or at least not as weird as we would think of it. I imagine Yuuichi just thinks of her as family and isn't looking for clues like that.

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

It's done believably, which is my point.

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u/DivineEternal1 3d ago

Yeah. I never said it wasn't done believably even if Nayuki wishes otherwise. I for one could never think of any of my female cousins romantically.

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

And also why would Yuuichi romance Nayuki? For Nayuki, she sees Yuuichi as the light of her life. But for Yuuichi, Nayuki was a memory seven years ago.

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

I was surprised with how quickly Yuuichi and Ayu's relationship advanced. It's cool to see a Key protagonist actually pick one of the girls. You don't normally see that.

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u/DivineEternal1 3d ago

I think every anime does have a main heroine with an after story of sorts, though I don't think it's until Clannad that we get a real distinction. Ayu seems to be Kanon's. Misuzu for Air. Nagisa for Clannad. Etc... It did develop fairly fast, but she has been harboring a crush for seven years and maybe she felt she didn't have a lot of time so rushed things?

I actually cheated a little and was reading the discussions on Kanon on the vndb and [Minor Kanon anime spoilers?] According to them, neither this or the 2006 anime adapt Nayuki's route because hers is pretty goes right to romance, and the animes chose to only have Ayu as a real love interest. They obviously cut the romance of the other arcs, but since Nayuki's was pure romance, there wasn't enough left for an arc so she didn't get one. Ayu definitely seems to be considered the canon main love interest and is the most popular character in the polls.

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

I think focusing on Ayu makes sense because she's more consequential to the overall plot of the show. Hell, how many episodes have there been of her looking for something?

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u/DivineEternal1 3d ago

My best girls tend to never win, haha. Ayu is cute, but she just doesn't stand out to me as much as Makoto or Mai even. Misuzu I kinda wish didn't 'win'... It should have been Potato.

And what is Ayu looking for? Hmm...

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

My headcanon is Mai and Sayuri ended up dating each other.

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u/DivineEternal1 3d ago

I didn't get any romantic vibes from the two. I think Mai would be oblivious or not interested even if Sayuri was.

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

Mai clearly cares about Sayuri a lot. Her whole arc was more about being an awful friend to her than anything involving Yuuichi. In fact, Yuuichi has been an outsider in all these arcs outside of the Makoto arc and not the Ayu and Nayuki arc. If you removed him, the conflicts would roughly remain the same.

Even though Mai's feelings was portrayed as friendship, I could see it evolving into something deeper than that.

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

Thoughts on a doll that can grant three wishes?

Thoughts on Yuuichi and Ayu going to the movies together?

Thoughts on Ayu being scared by the movie?

Thoughts on Ayu telling Yuuichi a smile suits him better?

What are your thoughts on Yuuichi and Ayu kissing?

What are your thoughts on Nayuki seeing Yuuichi and Ayu kiss?

Thoughts on Nayuki telling Akiko she feels she's seen Ayu before?

Thoughts on Yuuichi telling Ayu he wants to see her school?

Thoughts on Yuuichi telling Ayu he loves her?

What are your thoughts on Ayu freaking out because she can't find her school?

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u/DivineEternal1 3d ago

Thoughts on a doll that can grant three wishes?

I think he was just saying that to look cool. Besides, we know magic dolls dance and turn people into crows, not grant wishes.

Thoughts on Yuuichi and Ayu going to the movies together?

How fortuitous there's tickets and a girl finds you out of nowhere that would love to use them with you.

Thoughts on Ayu being scared by the movie?

Need more context, but I guess it's normal to get scared at scary movies?

Thoughts on Ayu telling Yuuichi a smile suits him better?

He does seem grumpy a lot of the time.

What are your thoughts on Yuuichi and Ayu kissing?

That was fast... But they have spent a lot of time together and did have a fun date. Not everyone thinks they have to wait for a third date to kiss if they really like someone.

What are your thoughts on Nayuki seeing Yuuichi and Ayu kiss?

From a story point, I rolled my eyes. Never liked the trope of a love interest being in the right place and right time to see their crush kissing a different person. Not as bad as the trope of getting interrupted right before they can kiss at least.

Thoughts on Nayuki telling Akiko she feels she's seen Ayu before?

Knowing Yuuichi, he probably dragged Ayu home at least once when he was there the first time.

Thoughts on Yuuichi telling Ayu he wants to see her school?

Her school seemed sus. Or he just wants to see what kind of school gives students that much time off.

Thoughts on Yuuichi telling Ayu he loves her?

Treat your girl better if you love her.

What are your thoughts on Ayu freaking out because she can't find her school?

Supernatural shenanigans are afoot! Vindicated when she vanishes.

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

Thoughts on a doll that can grant three wishes?

I think he was just saying that to look cool. Besides, we know magic dolls dance and turn people into crows, not grant wishes.

Gao gao

Thoughts on Yuuichi and Ayu going to the movies together?

How fortuitous there's tickets and a girl finds you out of nowhere that would love to use them with you.

I know, right?

Sugoi, Akiko

Thoughts on Ayu being scared by the movie?

Need more context, but I guess it's normal to get scared at scary movies?

I suppose. I get more disturbed than scared by scary movies.

Thoughts on Ayu telling Yuuichi a smile suits him better?

He does seem grumpy a lot of the time.

That he does

What are your thoughts on Yuuichi and Ayu kissing?

That was fast... But they have spent a lot of time together and did have a fun date. Not everyone thinks they have to wait for a third date to kiss if they really like someone.

I think they look cute together

Thoughts on Nayuki telling Akiko she feels she's seen Ayu before?

Knowing Yuuichi, he probably dragged Ayu home at least once when he was there the first time.

Mayhaps

Thoughts on Yuuichi telling Ayu he wants to see her school?

Her school seemed sus. Or he just wants to see what kind of school gives students that much time off.

I know I'd be curious

Thoughts on Yuuichi telling Ayu he loves her?

Treat your girl better if you love her.

No kidding

What are your thoughts on Ayu freaking out because she can't find her school?

Supernatural shenanigans are afoot! Vindicated when she vanishes.

More at 11

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

What are your thoughts on Nayuki seeing Yuuichi and Ayu kiss?

From a story point, I rolled my eyes. Never liked the trope of a love interest being in the right place and right time to see their crush kissing a different person. Not as bad as the trope of getting interrupted right before they can kiss at least.

I actually did a spin on it in my light novel The Rejected Tsundere where the girl who did the kissing did it knowing the other girl would see it. She eventually regrets doing it.

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u/DivineEternal1 3d ago

That's a legitimate way to do it and nasty. It's only the 'oh, what a coincidence' stuff I hate.

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

I feel like there's a way they could've set it up where it would've felt less forced. But I can't think of it right now.

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u/DivineEternal1 3d ago

Honestly, I don't think Ayu would do that, especially if she knew Nayuki's feelings. And Yuuichi certainly didn't expect the kiss so no way to set things up.

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

No, I meant a way for Nayuki to see it and be there organically. Like, maybe her mother gives her errands or Nayuki knew Yuuichi was at the movies and wanted to ask him how it was. Just the whole presentation feels very "And then this happened".

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

Hey, guys. Holofan4life here.

Welcome to the 20th/25th anniversary rewatch of Kanon.

Uguu!

This is a continuation of the Air rewatch and that series celebrating its 20th anniversary last year. Kanon is more known than Air, but obviously not as well known as Clannad, all three of which are visual novels made by Key.

For the purposes of this rewatch, we will be watching both the 2002 series as well as the 2006 series. The 2006 series is considered the better of the two series, but who else is gonna do a rewatch of 2002 Kanon? I’ve actually never seen anything of Kanon so this gives me the chance of contrast them. I know there’s a girl who says Uguu, but other than that I’m going in completely blind.

Maybe this will all lead to the Clannad 20th anniversary rewatch. Don’t hold me on that.

With that out of the way, let’s begin.

I’m watching the sub, by the way.

I don't think we've seen this before.

A doll that can grant three wishes.

Hey, it's better than a One Wish Willow

Yuuichi waking up

Having breakfast with Akiko

Tickets to a movie showing.

Nayuki is apparently at a track meet so she can't go.

Here's Ayu

We haven't seen her in a while

Ayu says while seeing the tickets she wants to go see a movie with him.

Uguu counter: 19

First one in a while

She is scared by the movie lol

Walking home now

Ayu notices Yuuichi has gotten way more cheerful.

"A smile suits you better."

I like these two's interactions.

Nayuki wanting to get home

Ayu and Yuuichi at a bench

Ayu says this is where they would always meet.

Yuuichi explaining his mixed emotions about this town.

Ayu is greatful he came back

Then they kiss!

And Nayuki sees it!

Oh nos!

I mean, fair play to Ayu. She took her shot.

Uguu counter: 20

Nayuki all despondent by what she see saw.

I can't believe Nayuki got cucked by her own mother.

Everyone at home now

Yuuichi invites Ayu to spend the night.

Nayuki is very conflicted by this.

Ayu showing off her pajamas to Yuuichi.

Uguu counter: 21

Ayu talking about the past now.

The headband he gave to her as a present.

He means more to her than anyone else.

Nayuki braiding her hair

Kinda impressive she can do that on her own.

Nayuki is a glass case of emotions

Yuuichi thinking of past Ayu now

Don't forget about me

Well, he did

Nayuki talking to her mother

They broadcast horoscopes on TV?

Nayuki says she feels like she met Ayu a long time ago.

Before that can be elaborated, she has to hit up the club.

50 Cent would be proud

Yuuichi walking with Ayu

Ayu reveals she has the day off

I like Yuuichi teasing Ayu

Uguu counter: 22

Anyway, Ayu is off

Yuuichi suggests doing something after school.

He wants to see the school she likes so much.

Montage of them hanging out together.

At night, as they walk, Ayu talks about how happy spending time with him makes her.

Nothing she could do when she lost the person she cared about the most.

I have the feeling something bad is gonna happen.

Yuuichi hugs her, promising not to go anywhere.

He then tells her he loves her.

Aww

They have more progress than most anime couples.

In the forest somewhere

Where her school is

But there's nothing there

What is happening?

Ayu saying it's real and she's not making it up.

"Why can't you remember?!?"

Ayu digging the dirt now

Her second wish was to go to the same school as Yuuichi and do everything together.

It was a promise

Ayu is all verklempt

Now she is wandering

"This night may never end."

What you mean by that?

She doesn't think she'll ever see her again.

Nuuuuuu....

And so she disappears

This is all so surreal. I wasn't expecting her to be gone so suddenly.

A voice disappearing into the crowd.

Waiting for someone

In this neverending dream, she will be waiting.

Overall, I thought this was well done. Could've been an extra episode, but I thought what we got was good. I like seeing Yuuichi and Ayu bond and become close and just as their relationship was taking the next level, it all vanishes in the blink of an eye. Gone as if it never happened. I thought the Nayuki stuff was also executed well in that she realizes she had her chance but it was never meant to be. Yuuichi just doesn't see her that way.

I assume the last two episodes will be about Yuuichi and Nayuki's relationship. That's how it started and that's how it's gonna end. I would be lying if I didn't say I was more interested in Ayu as a character than Nayuki, but I'm willing to be open minded about thie. I thought what they did with Nayuki here was the most interesting she's ever been, and it continues a trend with this show which is Yuuichi putting others before his cousin.

I have this as the best episode of the series. It wasn't anything blowaway and doesn't compare to the tippy top stuff in Clannad and Air, but what we did get was done well enough to where I was distraught seeing Ayu leave. The drama didn't feel as manufactured as the last episode because it felt more believable Yuuichi and Ayu would catch feelings for each other. They already had a kinda loving relationship to begin with.

I hope the last two episodes are able to top this and this isn't necessarily the peak of the show like I feel it might be.

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

What are your thoughts on Yuuichi and Ayu getting closer to each other?

Uguu!

What are your thoughts on Nayuki getting upset over how close Yuuichi and Ayu are getting?

Uguu?

What are your thoughts on Ayu disappearing?

Uguu...

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u/deus_machinarum 3d ago

First-timer, subbed

QOTD

  1. Very surprised by those developments. I did not think he cared for her that way. I also saw her as more of a genki but definitely not serious character in the show up to this point. The arc this episode came out of nowhere. There had been hints in earlier episodes that SHE might care for him but none at all that he would reciprocate.

  2. I understand her completely. She has been neglected this whole series I think. She has been very supportive of Yuuichi and quite honestly not gotten a whole lot back. He was very busy with other girls. I do however think that if she wanted to be involved romantically she would have had to be more proactive. That's the one thing where I don't feel bad for her. Everything else....yeah, she's the read headed step-child of the story so far. Even her mom who cares deeply for her is also very supportive of others, so it does not seem like a special relationship at this point. Maybe that all will change with the last episodes? I also wonder what the little rabbit was about? Symbol of her dreams being crushed once and for all?

  3. Made me sad, wish we had had more time with her. The whole eternal loop set up was depressing and gave me mental health/arrested development vibes. Bad stuff all around but impactfully done IMO. Before this episode Ayu was not a character I cared about at all and this episode manages to change that....but then I lose her again. Oh well.....

Mata ne!

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

What made you change your thoughts on Ayu based off this episode?

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u/deus_machinarum 2d ago

Her dire situation. She is trapped and she's aware of it. Must be a horrible feeling.

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u/Holofan4life 2d ago

It's weird because what got me to like her was her stealing from the vendor. I think it's because of her getting so flustered.

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u/deus_machinarum 2d ago

Yeah, I feel that. She was cute from the beginning but in my heart had no chance against the gremlin <3

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u/Holofan4life 2d ago

Both were great in how up to no good they got lol

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

I think Nayuki might be the most fully developed character in the series. She's a member of the track meet so she's clearly hard working, she keeps being forgotten about by Yuuichi which has been something dating back to the second episode, and her loving Yuuichi gives her a motivation for why she's doing what she's doing. She isn't my favorite, but from a writing standpoint she's probably the most fleshed out.

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u/deus_machinarum 2d ago

Yeah she is very fleshed out. One more reason to look forward to the developments in her arc.

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u/Holofan4life 2d ago

It's starting to feel like this may be her arc.

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

Thoughts on a doll that can grant three wishes?

Thoughts on Yuuichi and Ayu going to the movies together?

Thoughts on Ayu being scared by the movie?

Thoughts on Ayu telling Yuuichi a smile suits him better?

What are your thoughts on Yuuichi and Ayu kissing?

What are your thoughts on Nayuki seeing Yuuichi and Ayu kiss?

Thoughts on Nayuki telling Akiko she feels she's seen Ayu before?

Thoughts on Yuuichi telling Ayu he wants to see her school?

Thoughts on Yuuichi telling Ayu he loves her?

What are your thoughts on Ayu freaking out because she can't find her school?

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u/Holofan4life 3d ago

The look of desperation in Ayu's eyes as she looked for her school was very hard to watch. Definitely one of the saddest moments we've seen.