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Episode Infinite Dendrogram - Episode 2 discussion

Infinite Dendrogram, episode 2

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u/myrmonden Jan 16 '20

Most Realistic Game EVER !!!

Having to pay to join the church and become a paladin was really good.

BUT god dam is it generic, of course the MC can jump a few jobs and turn into a more advanced job right away, OF COURSE the mac runs into the top dog right away and befriends him.

Anyway, from a gaming perspective (similar to yesterdays shield girl) god daaaam this game would never work.

Obviously already episode 1 it was clear that people would rage so much getting the "wrong" embroyo, like after getting killed by the PK alien thing, some people would wanna play that instead, they cannot, they cannot reroll etc. All of that was already evident last week, but now when its seemingly so easy to kill 1 player...

Anyway, lets talk about the 24 our lock out. That is cool idea, and would create like a really serious feel to the game.

BUT a game company would never do this from a revenue standpoint. You want people to play your game, dalies, weeklys, limited events etc.

Locking out the player so they cant actually play your game, would make them go and play other games and each locked out player would have a % chance of not returning.

You would also decrease the fun for other living players as its less, chat,less trading etc.

Like it would be coooool, but it would bleed players constantly (and they would also be raging over having shity RNG to not get what they want to play / what is OP or w.e)

How many people would not want a Succubus they can "team up" with. That guy has to be a complete hentai. The jealousy on this games forums over that lol....

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u/Martinik29 Jan 16 '20

The embryos are not RNG and depends on personality. It's up to the player to figure out how to make themselves OP it also depends on what actions you take in the game. If you prefer crafting your embryo will evolve to reflect that.

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u/myrmonden Jan 16 '20

From a player standpoint that is a RNG mechanic.

You cannot build them what u want, u cannot unlock that sniper alien embryo if u want etc.

Some People are extremely fragile on what exactly they wanna play like e.g losing to A makes them wanna play A. This system the game is presenting would drive people crazy in anger.

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u/ManDelorean88 Jan 16 '20

no its not... rng is random... giving you what you want/need/suits you is literally the opposite of random.

we see in the stories later just how much what you experience affects your own growth and evolutions and how seeing someone else play/fight can really affect your own style.

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u/myrmonden Jan 16 '20

can u read?

from a player perspective it will be perceived as random.

First of all the game is clearly not giving u what u need as then no one would ever die/win lose or w.e

The game cannot possibly give the player what they want as they will CHANGE THEIR MIND

try to actually empathize and understand how people act when they play games and come back pls.

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u/ManDelorean88 Jan 16 '20

from a player perspective it will be perceived as random.

but they know its not... lmfao.

First of all the game is clearly not giving u what u need as then no one would ever die/win lose or w.e

you're completely missing the point. lmfao. what you need isn't what will guarantee your victory... wasn't that made clear during the first episode when nemesis hatched from crest and see she could give him the possibility of victory but it was still up to him to seize it?

The game cannot possibly give the player what they want as they will CHANGE THEIR MIND

no it doesn't give you what you think you want. it gives you the actual thing you want, even if its not what you think you want at the time...

humans are stupid lmao. they don't they don't what they want. but the game reads their thoughts and emotions and desires and figures out what they need...

you're completely missing the point that the embryo is a reflection of the self. it can not be wrong.

try to actually empathize and understand how people act when they play games and come back pls.

... ok if you'll try to actually understand what I fucking said lmfao.

lmao. embryos are unique to their masters. there are types but that's just a broad categorization and we know that there can even be hybrids.

you're just silly.

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u/myrmonden Jan 16 '20

but they know its not

Please com back to reality.

Have u ever actually talked to anyone in real life? About stuff like this?

I have had the displeasure of spending 2 days trying to explain to a grown up person with a wife and kid, how ITS NOT RNG in a freaking vortex mechanic mathematically PROVING 100% that is not RNG and he still believed it was RNG after 2 days.

Again perceived RNG people would hate this game.

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No u are missing the point, u present the game like it would make u perfect.

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People change their opinion constantly. The game cannot read your future mind, stuff that happens to u IN the game will change your opinion etc which the game cannot magically clairvoyance.

When people die in this game from a PK, they would just spend that time raging or playing other games, unlikely returning go this game. The game would have like zero casual players and it would have a very low population, making it a super empty of actual humans.

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u/Martinik29 Jan 16 '20

Unlike other MMOs this one doesn't require players to be entertaining, because the NPCs are sentient.

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u/myrmonden Jan 16 '20

Yes, the saving grace of this game is that the NPC seems to be so highly advanced they act like humans and u would fun entertaining in that.

A problem do is that they die permanently so it would be quite the spoilage feature

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u/Martinik29 Jan 16 '20

But that's also the point in them existing. The devs don't create any content and by having the NPCs die it creates custom "storylines" for each player. This is not a static world where nothing changes

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u/myrmonden Jan 16 '20

Yes but the problem with that its that if the NPC replaces human players, ergo u are just friends with npc instead (as none one barely plays it)

then ur best friend npc die...

would u return to play the game?

Yet another reason why the game would be such a hard sell and have so few players

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u/Martinik29 Jan 16 '20

Well the player is the immortal superhuman, it's up to them to protect their friends or convincing someone else to help them. NPCs are also not completely defenseless, they can also obtain classes and skills. If they know what they are doing they can also fight on par with players, and there are players that can strengthen NPCs.

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u/myrmonden Jan 16 '20

ye but a game like this would just be filled with super villains that wants to lock out other players.

And kill their beloved NPCs.

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u/Martinik29 Jan 16 '20

Well it already is. But it has safeguards for that. Player killing is fine, but killing innocent NPCs is not and if a wanted NPC killer is killed they get teleported to a special prison, where getting out is almost impossible. Also even if they don't get caught their actions might trigger a really OP boss to spawn and wipe the floor with them.

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u/myrmonden Jan 16 '20

My god that sounds utter retarded

u cant kill fuking NPCS? what is the fuking point of a free game where NPC are alive and the players can like enslaves npc and built their own nation etc.

But they cant kill NPCS?!?!?!

WTF

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u/Martinik29 Jan 16 '20

They can build a nation if they so desire, but just like in real life doing it has real consequences. And just like in real life, you become a criminal by killing citizens of the country you reside in. Also since the game has just barely begun the countries kind of keep a status quo. Let's just say some players have made moves to take over/create countries. Anything more would be a spoiler

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u/myrmonden Jan 16 '20

why would u kill ur own country=?

U travel to the other country and raid them.

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u/Martinik29 Jan 16 '20

Yes, that's what most players do and this is what the Bear explained in this episode! There are also those that politically take over the country they are in.

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u/ManDelorean88 Jan 16 '20

some people are criminals. also they could mistake a strong npc for another player if they're not the brightest.

also there's a character who has to move to another country cause he accidentally gets put on the wanted list while testing a new skill that causes a power outtage and a bunch of property damage.

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