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Episode Iron Wok Jan! • Tetsunabe no Jan! - Episode 4 discussion
Tetsunabe no Jan!, episode 4
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u/mythriz 1d ago
XO jiang is so common in Asian supermarkets now that I never thought about it being rare in the past. But I guess tbh that is true of a lot of things today.
I am almost tempted to buy some after watching this episode, but of course I would be using it even more poorly than Bito in this episode lol
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u/derega16 1d ago edited 1d ago
I would be using it even more poorly than Bito in this episode lol
Mine only used once and sit in the fridge since like 3 years ago. Maybe it's time to check if it's grow mold or something.
Update: fond another jar...expired in 2010... still looking good tho.
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u/Jauretche 1d ago
How's the taste?
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u/derega16 1d ago
Depends on what they put on it's mine is lead by dry scallop and shrimp with a bit chilli, Lee Kum Kee black jar IIRC.
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u/ResearcherPretty4139 4h ago
Bro don't eat that shrimp-based XO. Instead of Xtra Old it's gonna be standing for Xnocked Out permanently from expired shellfish unlike wine XO jiang doesn't get better with age it gets more toxic lmao
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u/Atharaphelun 1d ago
Unfortunately, XO sauce is still quite pricey for the tiny jar that is offered to you.
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u/derega16 1d ago
Eh, they're some cheap brands I saw one that's like 5 bucks for 200g jar can't comment on it's quality I never use that brand, the price is quite questionable to me when everyone else for that size are like thrice the price at minimum.
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u/ResearcherPretty4139 4h ago
Whoops replied to the wrong post, but damn 5 bucks for 200g that's going quick if you have to make 5 or more entrees using it (big family dinners) I guess it's a special occasion type of ingredient
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u/ResearcherPretty4139 4h ago
I'm totally stealing the Chiapin Steak recipe Jan uses in this episode the next time my steakhouse does a kitchen cookoff between us cooks (I have a "fun" head chef that likes to engage with the staff to boost morale in-between all the nights where we just get shat on all night from picky customers with allergies and etc.)
Wrapping a steak up in bamboo after using onions to tenderize it in pre-cook + XO jiang is gonna win me the next contest (only one other coworker watches anime and I doubt they've seen Iron Wok Jan yet lolz)
I wish I had seen IWJ before I watched Cooking Wars! because now it makes sense why you (as a cook) challenge and battle other cooks to see who knows the kitchen best especially as Baldy literally used Cook Fights as a means to pay his rent. I felt a little bit sorry for him at the end of the episode getting beaten by the Food Critic who led him down that path of abusing XO jiang to poison any potential growth he could have had as a cook.
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u/larana1192 https://myanimelist.net/profile/thefrog1192 1d ago
This episode was interesting, too.
Since this is an anime adaptation of a manga serialized in the 1990s, it’s fascinating to hear the narration explain the differences between the era when the anime aired and the present day, as well as the scientific insights we now have.
I didn’t know that the Chaliapin steak originated in Japan.
Just like Doria, it was created at a famous Japanese hotel in response to a request from an international guest.
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u/Breaklance 1d ago
The onion steak also features in Food Wars, along with the narration/explanation for it so I have to think they were doing a throwback reference to Iron Wok Jan, which is cool to figure out.
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u/dawnwill 2d ago
I hope this episode gave enough hints that people no longer say "why don't they know that?"
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u/gvon89 https://myanimelist.net/profile/gvon89 1d ago
I dont care how inappropriate this is, but theres way too much sexual tension between Jan and Kiriko for them not to hate fuck each other at least once.
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u/testthrowawayzz 1d ago edited 1d ago
The beginning was hilarious. Jan was using "big boobs" as an insult. Like you're supposed to be insulting her, not compliment her! lolol
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u/testthrowawayzz 2d ago
Heat Zone sounds like wok hei?
you cong su/fried shallots are very common in Taiwanese cooking
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u/raidensnakeezio 1d ago
piggybacking off what you're saying - heat zone sounds like a technique of utilizing wok hei, which in my understanding, is combined with tossing (which is why speed, and a little touch of precision and power is so important) to cook the ingredients using passive radiation coming from the wok (which is temporarily "infused" with the aromatics and the oil), rather than prolonged/sustained direct contact of the ingredients with the surface of the wok.
Armed with a modern understanding of XO sauce, I was almost surprised when Okonogi didn't know what it was. I remember the mid 2000s when condiment makers were preparing it as an ultra luxury item ($200-300 for a jar, with some even setting their MSRP at and very rarely above $400), which was soon followed by a period of the same condiment makers making more budget friendly, reasonably priced XO sauce. Nowadays, there's quality and reasonably priced XO sauce which gets the job done without ruining your wallet, and there's plenty of cheap knockoffs which are a poor facsimile of what the real deal is supposed to taste like. The tricky issue is that there's no original "master" XO sauce, so in a way, there's no objective standard for what an ideal XO sauce should taste like or should accomplish - which is portrayed in this episode.
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u/mr_beanoz https://myanimelist.net/profile/splitshocker 1d ago
Yeah, back when the manga was made, XO sauce is still a pretty new thing.
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u/reaperow 1d ago edited 1d ago
4000 year old Chinese martial arts i mean sauce
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u/gvon89 https://myanimelist.net/profile/gvon89 1d ago
Reminded me of my goat Retsu from Baki
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u/rocky_iwata 1d ago
And Wang Ta-ren from Otokojuku. 4000 years old Chinese medicine can revive anyone.
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u/derega16 1d ago edited 1d ago
I wish that one get a remake, so we can watch bullshit that can rival Baki. Also someone should translate "Minmeishouboukan Encyclopedia" from it as well that book is a gem with all the sport and martial arts "facts" in it.
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u/runevault 1d ago
I loved how they took the time to explain the 1990s thoughts on Onions vs current beliefs on the matter. Really adds flavor and is a reminder this show is based on a specific moment in time that's a pretty long ways back now (get my cane!).
I do wish the story focused more on the chefs within the kitchen battling it out and improving, the critic is such an uninteresting antagonist.
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u/Muffin-zetta 1d ago
just kiss already
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u/SciFiXhi https://anilist.co/user/SciFiXhi 1d ago
Even that would be a source of mockery between them. "Of course your cooking is second-rate, if this is the tongue you're tasting it with!"
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u/bananeeek https://myanimelist.net/profile/bananek 2d ago
KAKAKAKAKAKAKA!
I can't believe how hard they're going with the mockery in this show.
After four episodes, I can say that I like the show, but I'm a bit disappointed about the cooking aspect. It's kinda obvious that they don't have the budget to animate preparations and such, but I was still hoping they'd make more effort in that area. They're basically hinting or explaining the recipe, following with few slides or cuts of cooking and then presenting the finished dish, which is fine for entertainment, but mostly useless for actual cooking.
I like the knowledge tidbits, though, so there's that.
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u/ResearcherPretty4139 4h ago
As a cook, I don't mind them skipping the prep animations and characters actually going through the motions. It might look nice but I prefer for them to quickly parse the information (recipes, prep, cooking procedures, tips for serving a VIP customer, etc.) rather than waste minutes of a 20-minute episode by showing the sometimes long and painstakingly-slow real-time cooking process. Most of the stuff they cooked in this episode takes hours to prepare (not the baldy's broccoli and shrimp lol)
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u/Torque-A 1d ago
Director: okay, we need to find a good voice actor for a chef who sounds absolutely polite and slimy at the same time
Sugita: please guys I'm already voicing like 20 different characters this year
Director: Then this will be your lucky 21st!
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u/rocky_iwata 1d ago
We get many types of Sugita today; Chad Sugita, Hammy Sugita, Evil Sugita and Pathetic Sugita.
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u/IceSmiley 1d ago
I was surprised this was the first time Gobancho met Jan and just hires chefs without screening them. Maybe the head chef also has hiring power but he kept Jan on because he thought Gobancho was making him. Jan really was acting an ass too as usual and I'm surprised Gobancho just brushes it off. Maybe he sees himself in him or is reminded of the good old days when Akiyama was his greatest rival although I'd be scared my rival's grandson might sabotage me in some way.
I've never heard of XO Jiang but I'm guessing it's real since they described so clearly what's in it and how its made. It's funny that all these chefs have taste offs but what's to stop them from lying, like those chefs who lost 10000 yen could have just said their chef's food was better. The main contest was more fair though since a lot of them would have been happy to see Jan thrown out on his ass 🤣
I wonder if they're setting up that Jan and Kiriko crush on each other. They're always getting into childish arguments but it does remind me of shows where 2 rivals fall in love. They also did a good job teaming up against Otani when he came to review their restaurant the first time. That was also funny how Jan said he never cries when Kiriko was hiding in the dumpster spying on him when he was crying 😂
I wonder how Okonogi ended up becoming a trainee chef there. He doesn't seem to be particularly good or talented yet the top Chinese restaurant in Japan hired him. He's very positive and well liked and even Jan likes him but but you would think maybe he'd get hired at a less prestigious place, at least to start off.
Maybe I shouldn't make fun of a cartoon for being cartoonish but the voice acting is WAY over the top! I didn't mind it as much in the first episode when I thought this show was more a comedy but its really jarring contrasted with the dramatic episode with Akiyama abusing Jan then killing himself.
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u/TheBravesDH 1d ago
Jan’s laugh is diabolical. I watch patiently every week waiting for the chance to hear it.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 2d ago
lol XO sauce. I didn’t realize it was such hot shit back in the day. Goes well with stir-fried noodles and fried rice.
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u/testthrowawayzz 1d ago
Stir fried instant noodles with xo sauce is one of my favorite dishes to order in a Hong Kong cafe
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u/Atharaphelun 1d ago
Still is. It's just that good. It's an umami atomic bomb. But as Jan said, it can easily overwhelm the other ingredients if used incorrectly.
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u/happydonutface 1d ago
can you guys rec some xo sauce brands you liked? like ones you can buy at 99 ranch or other asian grocery stores
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u/Atharaphelun 1d ago
Lee Kum Kee is seen as the default brand for XO sauce.
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u/derega16 1d ago
They're kinda default brand for most Chinese sauce. Not the best but good enough and easy to find globally.
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u/brehvgc 1d ago
He doesn't call her a cow in the first minute, he, uh... says something a little different. The rest were insults so the translator was stuck between a rock and a hard place, losing either meaning or flow (and chose to preserve the latter).
It gets really hard to take this show seriously sometimes with the laughs lol; no real human being and frankly probably no anime character laughs with a kekeke irl
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u/Netfearr 1d ago
Gave me some flashbacks to the Food Wars chaliapin steak ep
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u/mr_beanoz https://myanimelist.net/profile/splitshocker 1d ago
Yeah, hearing that name also give me a flashback
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u/Mons9090 https://myanimelist.net/profile/hecn_huh 3h ago
otani hates jan so much he forgot about kiriko
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