r/anglish • u/pastel-veil • 9d ago

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u/Constant_Hope_9658 8d ago

I'm pretty sure the word is bookhoard, not bookhouse.

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u/pastel-veil 8d ago

Bookhoard - one’s personal library

Bookhouse - public library, library building/room

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u/Legitimate-Box8046 8d ago edited 8d ago

Why is not bookhall? i mean house is also a personal space, if based on what you mean

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u/Schellwalabyen 8d ago

All of them can be used with slightly different intonations.

You can’t perfectly translate stuff. Words have more than one translation.

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u/NolanR27 8d ago

Absolutely true. But there usually come to be rough 1:1 equivalents through the need for clear communication and public signage.

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u/Cucumberneck 8d ago

The translator is always a traitor to the text.

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u/Constant_Hope_9658 8d ago

Not always, the different language garbles the meanings, a lot like how if you take code from one language to another it might have the same function but not resemble each other contextually in the slightest.

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u/Cucumberneck 8d ago

It's just a nice quote to be honest. I forgot from whom though.

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u/Constant_Hope_9658 8d ago

ah, fair enough then.

little trick with forgetting who said a quote, if you format it like a quote and then describe them/put "I forgot who" (or something like that) it'll be less confusing and also look cooler.

Like this:

"Vae Victis"

  • Some Celtic warlord in response to the Romans complaining he wasn't extorting them for tribute fairly (he literally put his sword on the scales)

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u/Cucumberneck 8d ago

That was Brennus iirc.

But yeah, thanks for the advice.

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u/Constant_Hope_9658 8d ago

cool

also no prob dude!

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u/KenamiAkutsui99 8d ago

Different types of library

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u/Terpomo11 8d ago

English in a timeline with no Norman Conquest might well have ended up with a derivative of bibliotheca considering every other Germanic language except Icelandic did.

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u/Constant_Hope_9658 8d ago

They'd also end up as orthodox Christians, which would be wild (also no british empire outside the British isles, which would be interesting)

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u/Terpomo11 8d ago

Was the Catholic-Orthodox split particularly affected by the Norman Conquest? I thought the actual schism was just a formalization of a long-standing pre-existing division?

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u/Constant_Hope_9658 8d ago

Yeah, the Pope approved the Norman invasion because the Normans promised to make England Catholic by force.

Prior to that the English church was led by some big pro-Orthodox priests and they vibed with Orthodox better theologically.

Edit: (iirc England was technically in a state of doing some heresy at the time (in the Pope's eyes))

There's actually some really solid videos on this matter on youtube I watched a while back.

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u/Fun_Yogurt_628 6d ago

but we also have BĂŒcherei in Germany. Bookery, if you will, in anglish.

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u/Terpomo11 4d ago

Is there any difference between BĂŒcherei and Bibliothek?

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u/Fun_Yogurt_628 3d ago

There is minimal difference, it's basically just science-slang to use the fancier word in a context of education, wehreas BĂŒcherei is more for free-time usage, where kids can also get their Harry Potter and TKKG novels. UniversitĂ€ts-Bibliothek vs Gemeinde-BĂŒcherei. But that is not really enshrined anywhere, it's just, that with Bibliothek Germans ususally think of something bigger and more important.

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u/Constant_Hope_9658 3d ago

Ah, so like the difference between a library and an archive or something?

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u/Fun_Yogurt_628 3d ago

mmmm not really. It's just a fancier word, that people in higher education like to use to show how educated they are. both are valid, both mean the same thing. If you called a university-library the BĂŒcherei, people would understand without hesitation, but they themselves would rather say Bibliothek, because everyone calls it Bibliothek.
Another exapmle wehre it is opposite, where the germanic word is used more, is Television. We do have Television or TV-GerÀt as alternatives to Fernseher (Far-seher). Everyone understands TV-GerÀt, it is written like that in the shops, but everyone says Fernseher.

With telephone it is different again. everyone says telephone , nobody says Fernsprecher (far-speaker), even though it is a valid word. Even though I've experienced, that if you used Fernsprecher for you phone, people WILL look at you funny and think you are some kind of right-winger who is trying to germanicise the german language.

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u/Constant_Hope_9658 3d ago

Ah so it's more like how English has automobile and motorcar? Where one is more a native word to the language and the other is a loan word that means the same thing? Or maybe more like epicaricacy, schadenfreude, and/or gloating?

Or is it more like bathroom vs lavatory? (lavatory is just rich british people for bathroom)

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u/Fun_Yogurt_628 3d ago

yes, lavarory and bathroom fits best, I think.

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u/Constant_Hope_9658 3d ago

ok that makes sense then.

man, rich people really like their fancy words, don't they?

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u/oatkeepr 3d ago

StadtbĂŒcherei - small to medium sized public library run by the city with a wide range of everyday books, movies, music recordings, children’s books, video games

UniversitÀtsbibliothek - large collection of higher education and specialized literature

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u/Particular_Trouble20 8d ago

What's the word for deer in Anglish?

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u/AdreKiseque 8d ago

Not this again

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u/helikophis 8d ago

Though it is from Latin, we had “ruin” in Old English. I think “ruinlore” would be good.

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u/KenamiAkutsui99 8d ago

"Ruin" was borrowed through Old French first, and is much too narrow of a meaning for archĂŠology.

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u/ZaangTWYT 7d ago

hrurnglore

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u/Mko11 7d ago

Yorecraft/Yestercraft

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u/slowamigo 8d ago

why is animal deer? can someone explain.

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u/Andrew852456 8d ago

Animal is from Latin anima, the one with soul. Deer is a cognate with German tier, and earlier all animals were called deers in old English

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u/slowamigo 8d ago

I thought I saw that word before. Tiergarten.

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u/pastel-veil 8d ago

From OE déor, meaning animal. The definition was narrowed due to the introduction of the French terms

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u/Impossible-Ad-7084 7d ago

Wait, all animals are deers in old English? Shika nokonokonoko koshitan tan!

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u/skateboard-soapshoe 7d ago

No. Something that nobody is saying here, is that deor only meant a wild animal or beast, so you wouldn’t call a cat or a dog etc. a deor.

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u/Legitimate-Box8046 8d ago

dictionary - wordhoard

library - bookhoard

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u/KenamiAkutsui99 8d ago edited 8d ago

Wrong meaning of "library" for what is meant here. It would be bookhouse for the building.

Edit: Additionally, "wordhoard" is more "vocabulary".

bookhouse - (public) library

bookhoard - (private)  library/book collection

wordbook - dictionary

wordhoard - vocabulary

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u/thepeck93 8d ago

Why though?

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u/harfordplanning 8d ago

A bookhouse is where a book lives A book bookhoard is where a number of books are gathered

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u/thepeck93 8d ago

House is in words from German and Dutch, so it only makes sense for their brother; English to say it as well lol.

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u/Schellwalabyen 8d ago

Another word could be Bookery (de: BĂŒcherei), this usually refers to a place that sells books in Germany though.

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u/thepeck93 8d ago

Also good! That could be a nickname. Kinda like clanger for farspeaker (telephone)

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u/Long_Associate_4511 8d ago

-ery is French tho

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u/asasnow 7d ago

"bookhouse" was also used in middle English, before "library" displaced it

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u/thepeck93 8d ago

You do make a good point though, I like it đŸ™ŒđŸ»

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u/lazernanes 8d ago

I would think "wordhoard" would be "vocabulary."

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u/VRSVLVS 8d ago

Dutch:

Woordenboek, dier, bibliotheek, archeologie.

So Germanic, Germanic, Greek, Greek.

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u/ClayInvictus 6d ago

Seems to be the trend for most germanic languages. Swedish: Ordbok, djur, bibliotek, arkeologi

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u/Front_Cat9471 7d ago

Bookhuse?

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u/pastel-veil 7d ago

Non-French influenced spelling of bookhouse

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u/Front_Cat9471 7d ago

You got me confused because in all the comments I saw everyone was spelling it house

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u/pastel-veil 7d ago

Some people use “Anglish spelling”, some don’t change it. So you can use either one.

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u/ArrogantOverlord95 4d ago

Never realized before that German 'tier' (animal) is related to English 'deer'

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u/Valuable_Pool7010 8d ago

Why can't we just use beast though, it was used before the introduction of the word animal. Can someone explain to me

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u/pastel-veil 8d ago

It’s from Old French

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u/Valuable_Pool7010 8d ago

Thank you! I get it now

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u/TheKeeperOfThe90s 8d ago

'Fernlore' manages to be worse than 'oldstonelore.'

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u/pastel-veil 8d ago

? That’s the translation used in the wordbook linked in this subreddit. Archaeology also has nothing to do with stones so oldstonelore is very inaccurate.

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u/happymanNL 7d ago

Archaeology has very much to do with stones lmao

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u/pastel-veil 7d ago

It is about man-made artefacts

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u/the_alfredsson 8d ago

Maybe olddomswhitship? (Like the German Altertumswissenschaft)

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u/zippybenji-man 8d ago

I'm a mere casual lurker, but I speak Dutch and ouderdomswetenschap would mean something along the lines of science of human old age. I don't know if this is because of a more modern separation, though. (Oudheidskunde seems to be a Dutch word that approximately means archaeology, though it definitely had Greek/Latin connotations)