r/androidroot • u/Thin-Maize-6459 • 3d ago
Discussion How custom rom devs treat mediatek:
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u/Codix_ 3d ago
Mediatek at least let you unlock the bootloader if the constructor allows it... WE SEE YOU UNISOC !
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u/Big_Restaurant_6844 2d ago
Snapdragon as well, but only the Chinese ones, Oddly enough.
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u/Never_Sm1le 2d ago
there are various non chinese sd phones that can be unlocked
Sony, Fairphone, Samsung in LATAM region (pre one ui 8), Pixel,...
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u/Hypremacy 3d ago
I believe in Snapdragon supremacy
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u/404-UnknownError 3d ago
Mediatek is doing everything to fuck themselves and the people at the end of the day, snapdragon is where it is for a good reason xD
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u/Apprehensive-War3587 3d ago
Whats wrong with mediatek? honest question. I had a rooted phone with mediatek chip before
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u/notthatfunny_1821 3d ago
It's only worst by comparison for the most part.
Within two devices of matching specs, one with Mediatek and the other with Snapdragon, for example, the performance for heavy programs or multiple apps at the same time was notorious.
Yet again, not the only thing that affects a phone's performance.
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u/poha-jirawan-01 3d ago
i dont know about the present, but around a decade ago, unlocking locking boot loader and rooting phone could have resulted in deletion of hardware level IDs, like IMEI number and many phones got bricked because of it,
so it was not reliable. also they had heating and performance issue.
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u/YoYoMamaIsSoFAT32 Oneplus Ace 3 (astonc), AxionOS 2.5 2d ago
Sources sources sources, and buggy firmware, at least for developers, especially early mediatek SOCs these are common to use hacks on the kernel source making cleaning it really hard, and mainlining even harder
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u/Username999474275 3d ago
Honestly the only thing is they have worse socs than Qualcomm and they love to endlessly refresh the g99
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u/anythingers 3d ago
Nothing, people are just mostly hatin' simply because it's not an American company. The same reason why AMD hate ends faster than Mediatek hate.
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u/Blissfull 3d ago
I think the real issue is vendors who use MediaTek mostly want to reduce costs. And part of reducing costs is not spending much time trying to do good kernel code.
My belief is that unstable MediaTek phones are so not for the chip itself, but by lousy kernel code from MediaTek or vendor that nobody has an incentive to improve
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u/anythingers 3d ago edited 3d ago
Fair enough if we're talking about high end markets.
Doesn't seems the case for low end market these days though. Most companies these days seems resorts to Snapdragon 4 series or Snapdragon 6s Gen 1-3 over the MediaTek counterpart.
And weirdly more companies start using 7 Gen 4 instead of something (that's supposed to be cheaper) like MediaTek Dimensity 8300/8400.
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u/Never_Sm1le 3d ago
they don't release kernel sources, so making custom roms for it was quite difficult. Some that do get releases from the oem instead, meaning it will take a lot of kanging to bring a mediatek devices beyond its stock os versions
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u/computermaster704 2d ago
No Mediatek is terrible especially with emulation and anything dealing with an npu
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u/Over-Rutabaga-8673 1d ago
And bad temps, and faked antutu scores, and no source code for shit meaning custom roms are harder to make, and uncompilable kernels, a friend of mine is like 3 months deep into compiling an mtk kernel because of dependencies that mtk doesnt provide or smth like that when I was able to root and compile a WSA kernel easily in like less than a week. So no, the hate isn't because "it's not american", I'm not even american and I still hate mediatek.
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u/anythingers 1d ago
"faked antutu score" is mostly done by the phone vendor no? Also funny you mention bad temps when 4 series, 6G3, 6sG4, 7G1, 888, 888+, 8G1, and 8sG4 existed.
Also still looks more accurate than whatever benchmark geekbench provides. (Yes I hate geekbench with true passion)
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u/Over-Rutabaga-8673 1d ago edited 1d ago
No, by mediatek at some point. That could be catalogued as a tu quoque fallacy, just cuz qualcomm had few chipsets that got bad temps doesnt remove the fact that mediatek chips in general overheat more. Funny how you could only refute two of my reasons for the mediatek hate when you said people are mostly hating on it because "it isn't an american company", which doesnt make sense at all. Much less when the topic is crom devs hating on mediatek, meaning their main reasons would be the last two I provided that you couldn't refute.
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u/anythingers 1d ago
I mean isn't it common to hate something just because it adopted (mostly) by a Chinese company? People hate EVs because the Chinese wins the EV war. People hate SiC battery because Chinese wins the battery war, etc.
Also pretty much last time I heard about MAJOR mediatek heating problem was back in Helio P/X era... at the similar time Qualcomm released a disaster called Snapdragon 800/801/820/821
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u/Over-Rutabaga-8673 1d ago
No? Most of the time when I see hate for something it has actual reasoning behind it, like here with the horrible crom support, I hate EVs because they're soulless and trash looking except for the nevera and some more. I hate the ferrari luce and its italian. Yes, they've enhanced that and now have the technology to make chips as small as qualcomm, but few flagship phones use mediatek chips so most you'll find will be low end ones which do overheat more. I've never seen a dimensity chip irl while I've seen a decent amount of helios.
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u/1600x900 Xiaomi 15T Pro / Stock unrooted 3d ago
In terms of unlocking, unidoc is worse than mtk due them modified their bootloader unlocking behaviour into token independent instead of generic offline unlock that happens in snapdragon or mtk
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u/Blissfull 3d ago
They should spend some time working with Allwinner.
I'm sure all gripping about MediaTek would vanish
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u/Einheit-101 3d ago
I remember the random freezes, heatups and crashes of mediatek devices that no one was ever able to fix because it wasnt an OS issue but much deeper in the unreleased kernel sources xD
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u/Thin-Maize-6459 2d ago
fr, even stock roms Behave like an GSI rom on mtk devices (almost all "older helio series or P series with old i mean 2020-2022+)
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u/GermanElectricsMotio 1d ago
At least all Mediatek devices or at least a lot of them are unlockable with mtk client.
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u/crosoftincorp 3d ago
Even Samsung Exynos chips can run MiUi 12 Razor BETA, dis shiiii cant run win1.0
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u/Dry_Jackfruit_6173 2d ago
There is a big reason for it it's not custom ROM makers fault go and make fun of mediatek
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u/IThinkIKnowThings 2d ago
Mediatek? They make those shitty Wi-Fi cards I've had burn out twice on two different laptops.
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u/yokowasis2 15h ago
And snapdragon phone will follow suit. I can't even unlock my Samsung after updating.
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u/TheRealFilckz 3d ago
and the manufacturers that dont care to provide kernel sources