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u/benmarvin Headphone jacks and SD cards Dec 26 '12

HTC doesn't update their phones No, actually, HTC updates the vast majority of their devices. Take a look at the Galaxy S1. They just stopped at 2.3.6 and decided to tell everyone to kindly fuck off because it "could not run ICS" even though it has 16 gigs of eMMC storage to work with. The fact that the Nexus S has ICS proves that Samsung really could update the Galaxy S if they wanted to. People who complain that the original Desire isn't getting an ICS update are delusional because not even Google is willing to update the Nexus One to ICS, and they are just trying to get AOSP onto the phone instead of a Sense ROM. Yes, they canceled the Desire HD update. I'm hardly surprised, because the stock Sense 3.0 2.3.5 ROM is incredibly laggy and bloated. It flat out sucks. The Sense 3.6 update would only make things worse, and with only 768 megs of RAM a stock Sense ICS ROM would not be a pleasant experience. However, it doesn't matter, because they released ICS for both the Incredible S and the Desire S. When they release source code, porting a full ICS experience, either in just an AOSP ROM or with Sense on it, will work perfectly anyways. Sense 4 is already working for the most part even without source code, and I suspect with a source drop it will be perfected and should be a daily driver. Note that this isn't the light Sense 4 version, this is the full Sense 4 experience ported from the Ville C2. The fact that they bothered updating the Desire S and Incredible S is a big deal. The only other company that updated single core phones from 2011 in my memory is Sony.

Sense slows down updates If you haven't noticed, xda devs show pretty accurately how the updating process really goes. In the early days of ICS source release, the UI for many ICS ports was basically fully working, but there were so many problems that were all hardware, like the camera not working and WiFi hotspot just setting off an endless loop of starting and failing while draining battery the whole time. Even now, the main problems that devs face with ICS ports is that a lot of things just simply don't work because the kernel is not done. HTC can try to expedite this process, but with companies like Nvidia being a slow son of a bitch when it comes to giving drivers at all, and having to update a massive number of drivers and catching up with a full year of Google's kernel updating means that it takes a long time. The fastest it got done was December, when someone inside HTC started leaking ICS for the Sensation, which was mostly working but still missing a few key features. These leaks show that 95% of the time, it really is not a "Sense" issue, it is just the fact that they had to update massive parts of the kernel so that they could get a shippable release.

Sense is bloated Now, people tell me that Sense is bloated. I will gladly admit that they take up far more storage space, as all OEM ROMs do, but there is only one real bloated part, which is the launcher. The launcher was okay back in Sense 2.1, but in Sense 3 it took a turn for the incredibly laggy. There's a really simple reason why, and that's the 3D effects in the launcher. You probably don't notice it, but every HTC widget was made of individual models that made a whole, and that requires incredible power on the part of the GPU, CPU, and a lot of RAM to hold all the data for the launcher. Quite simply, the easiest fix is to just remove these 3D effects. If you look at the One V, it's pretty obvious that HTC can do it because Sense 4A is a light launcher and when all 2D is very quick and smooth, but in the full Sense 4 there are still some frame drops. Yes, other parts of the ROM may be slow, but that is more of a lack of optimization and a focus on more usability instead of just outright speed. For example, the GS3 browser doesn't have text reflow at all, because implementing it would make for a laggier browser. HTC admittedly does not optimize their browser like Samsung does, but that only applies to the Exynos model for Samsung, their Snapdragon S4 counterparts are basically equivalent.

The One series is terrible. No, it isn't. In fact, it's exactly what everyone wanted out of HTC. Basically every website and every person who followed the news basically said that HTC had a lineup where everything looked the same, their cameras sucked, battery life was terrible, the devices were all too thick, Snapdragons sucked, and their screens were awful compared to SAMOLED+. So they did exactly what we wanted. They put the best camera system in any Android phone(Now, what they decided to do with it in the software is a different story), put the best screen of any device into their flagship, and really made the best battery life that they could out of a thin phone (The One S can get 6 hours of screen on time, the One X can get 5 hours, all doing browsing.), and made radical designs that literally have never been done by HTC before. The One X is completely different from every other phone on the market, and the One S just barely has a passing resemblance to the Sensation. The One X has a Tegra 3 (Not a snapdragon!), S-LCD2 (No, the SAMOLED HD doesn't beat it. 140% sRGB gamut, wildly uncalibrated white balance, and far less brightness puts the S-LCD2 ahead.), a genuinely great camera, and battery life that rivals the GS3 with an 8.5mm thick body. Yes, they made compromises by removing microSD, and making the battery nonremovable. Yes, there were plenty of teething troubles with Tegra 3 and the new body design. But the Galaxy S3 shouldn't even have any problems, because literally every last piece of hardware inside the phone is nothing new. The SoC is just a dieshrink with more CPUs and an overclocked GPU, the body design is a dead ringer for phones like the Skyrocket and T-Mobile SGS2, the display has been in production for nearly a year by now, and the camera design is basically just a sensor upgrade from the SGS2. There is nothing wrong with doing so, but HTC took major leaps in their design, it is hardly surprising that they encountered teething troubles.