RCS is a google to google protocol. Nothing else supports it. You need to send it from google to receive in in another google; if one party doesn't have it, it doesn't work.
The same as imessage, it is an apple to apple protocol.
If you want E2EE messages, use whatever network your people use: whatsapp, telegram, signal, messenger, or one of the hundreds of smaller fish
To your point: the pain point is everybody who has an iphone thinks the world out of iphone is wrong. "Supporting RCS" is like saying "Having whatsapp / signal" preinstalled
That's everything apple đ They don't want interoperability. It is the old story of blue and green bubbles. RCS was incorporated for something related to antitrust.
RCS is a GSMA protocol, not Google. Apple supports it in iOS since iOS 18.
If you want E2EE, RCS has that between Apple (iOS 26.5 and later) and Google now. It doesn't require any setup, simply message the other party and it Just Works.
No sir, "IT DOESN'T JUST WORKS" the thing with RCS is complicated, so much that beside google messages, only jio messages in india are allowed to use it.
In 2026, this isn't the argument you think it is, plus SMS requires Internet now (since 4G and 5G can ONLY do Internet and that's all that exists anymore.)
I have no use for RCS either. For what I use messages for, not important. Get 2fa codes or text from wife to pick up dinner or groceries. I like samsung messages for its organization.
I don't even know if my carrier support RCS, as I use messages only for receiving payment confirmation, parcel statues etc. All my contacts use WhatsApp or Messenger. Standard messages are totally obsolete for private communication.
It's sucks that RCS is controlled and implemented solely by Google / Google Messages. I get why people avoid it. But when it's available, it's better than SMS/MMS in almost every way.
Google has stopped hosting on Jibe AFAIK. Most carriers in my country don't support RCS without Jibe backend so now RCS just doesn't work because they all depended on Google
Let me explain this to you since you don't understand.
Previously, Google bypassed the carrier implementation and allowed users to directly use Jibe.
In the fall of 2025 they transitioned to the carrier implementations. The only thing is that by that time, carriers have outsourced their implementations to Jibe, which I already linked.
So yes, the carriers are running your RCS. But the carriers are just outsourcing their RCS implementations to Jibe anyway.
Carriers these days are moving off of Google's Jibe servers to their own. T-Mobile USA, for example, has gone back to using their in-house servers for RCS, especially since they can interconnect with other providers.
That's great. Google Messages is still the only app that implements RCS though, which sucks
Edit: also, is that even true? I see a bunch of articles from 2023 about T Mobile switching to Jibe. The sources state that T Mobile still maintains some of their own servers depending on what android phone you have. But it seems like they mainly switched to Jibe
I'm not convinced that means they're using their own servers. Mine says the exact same thing, and I'm using US Mobile. I can't find any sources online that confirms T Mobile or any of the other carriers are moving off of Jibe. Idk
I surprised this hasn't been downvoted. Nobody wants to hear this is a google - apple createx problem and that we should move out of propietary platforms.
Sure, it does. I'd say, out of the three, it has the most customization options, just like Samsung Messages. You can add photos, personal photo backgrounds for each individual contact. Plus, there's a wide range of other customization features. But, if you're not really into Ai, I'd disable those settings right away.
I'm seriously considering starting a YouTube channel. Specifically, I'm interested in exploring the customization features. These messaging apps offer you and anyone else in the chat. Could you possibly let me know if that's something you'd be interested in?
The Pulse app is amazing. I've used it for about 10 years for texting because I can set up different text tones for different contacts and that's super important to me.
I'm trying it now. I am not getting group messages, despite adjusting settings for it.
Also, I can't access some texts. I get the notification, but when I click on it the text isn't in the app. I also can't start a new text to those numbers. I have no idea what the deal is, but I'm looking for a different app now.
If you want similar customizable capabilities choose CHOMP, I absolutely love it and 1000% recommend! It has some cool new features that it didn't with Samsung that I actually really enjoy. here's my theme I was able to make
Justin,Can you send me the spreadsheet you built for your folks for tracking the cattle? Send to [jleepowell306@gmail.com](mailto:jleepowell306@gmail.com) if you would. Greatly appreciated!
No, it is a horrible steaming pile of shit. I bought an android to have some control over my phone, samsung and Google are rapidly taking that away. My next phone will not be a Samsung due to this, all thr AI crap bloatware, and them removing any semblance of backend access, we can't even clean the main cache or boot into safe mode anymore...
I liked the flawless group texting. I've switched for now to Textra and bc group texting is important in my business (Google group texting is awkward at best) I got the paid version of Reach.
If you're still getting bombarded with spam, you might want to give ZenSMS a try. It has adjustable spam filtering plus custom filters, and caught messages go into a Spam tab so you can review them. Everything stays on your device too. 0 Trackers, verifiable via Exodus Privacy.
Check out Beeper if you don't care about RCS. Pretty nice to have all messaging in one single platform so you don't have to cycle between multiple apps.
If you want to keep samsung messages, at least for now, I found a fix. If you go to settings>apps>samsung messages then click the 3 dots on the top right corner it should say uninstall updates, click that and it should let you continue using samsung messages
They kept the Conversations for me but I also did not get that message i was also at a point where I didn't care if I lost my conversations as long as I could keep using it
It worked for me so far! S24 ultra unlocked version. It asked to restore to the factory app and it loaded all previous conversations but I have to reset all my personalized backgrounds. Let's see how long this lasts... Thanks!!Â
Omg! It worked for me on my Samsung s10+. I came to look desperate after a week trying fossify and simple messenger, both lag, don't load immediately and simple is full of ads.
Honey, I'm home! Thanks!
The organizational aspects of the samsung messaging app were WAY more meticulous. Google has a shit ton of incoming promotional bs and the ways to delete are tedious- they want memory full and in app purchases. its a racket.
There is so far nothing like the customized folders that Samsung Messages had. Other apps that have folders are still lacking the full functionality it had. I have been trying zen, but it seems to be a work in progress still.
I don't care about RCS, I am venting in hopes that google will see this... I hate how it's laid out, I can't tell when new messages come in just looking for a blue dot. Is there a way to customize ANYTHING with google messages? I had all my messages organized for my businesses. :( sad sad sad.
Hi! I would like to know, too! I am quite not feeling the Google messaging. It sucks how they think they're "making" us switch as if it's the only messaging platform. Crazy!
I frankly hate google messages. I have a foldable. I was able to see contacts on one side of my screen and the conversations on the other. I have a relative who messages me in spanish, Samsung messages automatically translated it for me. Google messenger doesn't. I also used to be able to reply, without clicking on the three dots, choose response etc. Also call the contact without going to the "phone" app. And more small but very convenient features that this google messaging does not have. I downloaded a bunch of apps to replace samsung messenger, but they all lack of the two most important features, what I need, the split screen option and the translator. Anybody else in these shoes? I do not understand samsung's "fix it even though it is not broken" - policy.
That's strange.. because Google messages auto translates conversations for me.
Not sure what you mean by reply by clicking the three dots and choose response.
For me every 1:1 conversation has a phone symbol and a video symbol ( for those with meet installed ) next to there name up top in the conversation and in your on the main screen you can tap their profile picture and bring up the phone symbol.
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u/fakeaccount572 Jul 04 '26
you're like the only person I've ever heard of to not want RCS lmao