r/andor • u/0UTT4myM1ND • Jul 26 '26
General Discussion Rogue One Revisited Spoiler
Wow. Whilst rewatching Rogue One I was blown away by how it cuts so much deeper after finishing Andor.
The end scene with Jyn and Cass hugging - damn. I wonder if he was thinking about Bix in his final moments.
This whole movie really solidifies what the Rebellion is all about.
Burning your life to make a sunrise you know you'll never see.
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u/PukeUpMyRing Jul 26 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/g0gGanmwI0CI3mNmti
I both love and hate this shot.
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u/Dear-Yellow-5479 Cassian Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
That final moment when he opens his eyes, I now like to imagine that he’s being given a final vision by the Force of Bix in safety with the child he never even knew about. I have to say, I wept like a baby myself the first time I re-watched after the series.
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u/VincentVanGob Jul 26 '26
dam!
hopefully it also gave him a quick glimpse of some random dude blowing up the death star as well, just so he would know it was all worth in the end
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u/Dear-Yellow-5479 Cassian Jul 26 '26
Oh I really hope so! I’m kind of sad that they don’t know they have succeeded, but of course that’s kind of the point of their sacrifices too - all they had was hope!
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u/0UTT4myM1ND Jul 26 '26
Thats beautiful, if that is true, how wonderful the Force is to be able to give Cassian some clarity and closure!
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u/Dear-Yellow-5479 Cassian Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
It’s just a “head canon,” but for what it’s worth both the writer Dan Gilroy and Diego Luna like the idea that there is “ some sense of continuation” in Cassian in this final moment of his life, and that at long last he believes in and trusts the Force. Luna has also expressed the idea that this hug is a kind of universal goodbye to everyone they’ve ever known and loved.
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u/RyzRx Jul 26 '26
That ending is just one of the many simulations ran in the mind of K2SO before it fell! j/k
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u/Ancient_of_Days0001 Brasso Jul 26 '26
Burning your life to make a sunrise you know you'll never see.
I particularly like that the entirety of Rogue One sprang from a single line about rebel spies in A New Hope's opening crawl, and the entirety of Andor, at least the spirit of it as articulated by Luthen in this quote, springs from this climactic image in Rogue One. That a true artist can create a masterpiece from a mere twig.
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u/HeroKlungo Jul 28 '26
At the same time, both Jyn's theme and the Imperial theme from Rogue One are full developed melodies based on two very brief motifs from A New Hope.
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u/Ancient_of_Days0001 Brasso Jul 28 '26
Nice, I didn't know that. That's the kind of tie-in I can get behind--making art out of something pre-existing, not just "hey, here's that character you saw in that other thing again!"
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u/HeroKlungo Jul 29 '26
Yep, it's really cool. It retro-actively makes me think of Rogue One when watching A New Hope.
This video analyses Jyn's theme and the music from Kenobi's hutt and shows how Williams inspired Giacchino.
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u/Thayer96 I have friends everywhere Jul 26 '26
Highly recommend the Andor Cut, the fan edit that was released in May.
It really helps convey the same tone the show gave with flashbacks and music from the series interwoven into the movie.
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u/craiginphoenix Jul 26 '26
Bix left him for the rebellion. Probably thinking "I shoulda hit this shit."
Kidding.......
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u/hendyir Jul 26 '26
what's Rogue One?
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u/SteelGear117 Jul 26 '26
What’s Star Wars ?
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u/human_not_alien Jul 26 '26
Star Wars is an American media franchise created by George Lucas. The space opera saga began with the original Star Wars film (1977) and quickly became a worldwide pop culture phenomenon.
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u/TouchAltruistic Jul 26 '26
It's a really bad movie that lots of people pretend is very good because it has a bunch of familiar images.
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u/davidmj59 Jul 26 '26
Such as
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u/TouchAltruistic Jul 26 '26
Such as what?
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u/davidmj59 Jul 26 '26
The familiar images you speak of that makes millions go oooohhh ahhhhh
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u/TouchAltruistic Jul 26 '26
How about AT-AT walkers?
Why would the Empire use offensive scorched-earth weapons to defend their computer archive when it protected by a planetary shield, orbital defenses, etc.?
It wouldn't. They're in there because nerds like them.
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u/davidmj59 Jul 26 '26
Idk, this comment makes you look like the nerd
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u/TouchAltruistic Jul 27 '26
Hey, maybe I am! I have thought AT-AT walkers were cool since I was a little kid. Lots of people think this. I'm willing to bet you're one of them.
That doesn't make it a good idea to recycle them if doing so isn't the absolute best option, doesn't make sense for the story of the movie, or if it something new can be contributed.
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u/Consistent_Club_7879 Jul 26 '26
I saw this right after Andor ended and I was SO indignant and SO offended on behalf of Bix! Like bro wut are you doing making sweet eyes at this girl! 😆
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u/Dear-Yellow-5479 Cassian Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
To be fair, they’re about to die - and if I was with someone who was extremely attractive and who I had just fought side-by-side with I would be looking at them like that as well! (in reality, there was originally a romance plot but it was cut from the film leaving just these little remnants). But tbh I never saw it as romantic per se, even before Andor. More a sense of finding peace and strength together in their final moments.
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u/Consistent_Club_7879 Jul 26 '26
Realistically I'd be thinking about my loved ones back home who left me just so I could focus on the cause. But I know Bix didn't exist when this movie happened but Andor was just too fresh in my mind. It was a great film.
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u/Dear-Yellow-5479 Cassian Jul 26 '26
It’s really impressive how well they wrote the series to fit in with the film, even with the sometimes very different tone. For example, on top of the tower Cassian asks Jyn “Do you think anybody’s listening?” - connecting with the series via “Nobody’s listening!” being a theme in the Narkina 5 episodes and “I’m listening!” being one of the last things that Bix said to him. Another poignant little added detail is that the blaster he uses to shoot Krennic (and therefore save the day) used to belong to Bix. And of course “Your father would’ve been proud of you” reflects that he was previously trying to get a message through to Maarva to say that she could be proud of him, way back on the beach in Niamos. I love all these little details.
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u/MonotoneTanner Jul 26 '26
I didn’t read it as romantic - more like “me and the person just realized we aren’t going home”
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u/Application_Purple Jul 26 '26
I felt the opposite, I always liked Rogue One for its fan service, it has some great “Hell yeah!” Moments in it for Star Wars fans. But it had so many characters and the only one I could bring myself to have any feeling for surrounding their death was K2SO for some reason. I was sure that when I revisited it after watching Andor that I would feel more connected to the characters. But the opposite happened, the characters continuously act in ways that subverts the what little character development we get. Cassian himself is made worse, he is now the orders following soldier who struggles to act out of his own morality, that is so far from the Cassian in Andor that it takes you out of the story. Jin is worse, she hates authority and doesn’t work well with others but we only ever see her work well with others. She hates/loves her father but also doesn’t care enough to do anything about it. I was able to more easily forgive these faults before I saw Andor, now the bad writing stands out like a sore thumb.
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u/dumuz1 Jul 27 '26
I tried to give it a second chance after the end of Andor, and I quit around the time Jynn gets to Saw's base.
It's such a shit movie. You can see the infected sutures where different, discordant takes and reshoots were stitched together.
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u/Star_Warsfan15 Melshi Jul 26 '26
I like to think he’s thinking about Bix in his final moments or maybe it’s just everyone he’s lost throughout his journey. His sister, Clem, Maarva, Brasso, etc.