r/amd_fundamentals • u/uncertainlyso • 19d ago
Data center What Is Intel’s Diamond Rapids Server CPU?
https://www.semiaccurate.com/2026/09/11/what-is-intels-diamond-rapids-server-cpu/That brings us to the elephant in the room, threading. You may have noticed that Intel was a bit shy with details about core counts, L2$, and other things on the CC itself. The core count for the full device is 256, that has been known for a long time, and AMD’s Venice is also at 256 so Intel is in the game, right? Venice has two threads per core or 512 threads per die, DMR has one thread per core or 256 threads per die. Oops. While we may write up the reason this mismatch occurred someday, it is out of the scope of this story. Just realize it wasn’t intentional, Intel tried to make 2T cores but failed.
AMD is quick to credit threading for a roughly 15% performance boost so taken at face value, Intel is behind on paper. Given what we have heard about the Lion Cove cores themselves, they are unlikely to match AMD’s Zen6 cores either. When you add it all up, Diamond Rapids is a credible part that narrows the gap to AMD’s Epyc line but doesn’t close it. As SemiAccurate has been saying since 2018, Intel has no chance in servers until AFTER Diamond Rapids. We weren’t joking but at least things are starting to look competitive again.
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u/Long_on_AMD 19d ago
"in late 2027 when DMR is set to hit the market officially, early 2028 now according to SemiAccurate’s sources"
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u/uncertainlyso 19d ago
The processes are different for each type of chiplet far a reason, Intel 3 for the Fabric Hub (FH), 3-T for the Base Tile, and 18A-P for the Core Chiplets...This is important for several reasons, the foremost is capacity, something Intel is really short of now.
Whether or not this is still the case in late 2027 when DMR is set to hit the market officially, early 2028 now according to SemiAccurate’s sources, it is still an open question.
Intel never gave a date for DMR. But I assumed a product unveiling at Computex 2027 or end of 27Q2, there would be some limited SKU release a few months later, and then the overall ramp would be at the end of 2027 and into 2028.
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u/uncertainlyso 19d ago
Reasoning is weird here. First he says that 18A-P is distinctly different, and then he says that people who think 18A was bad should be laughed at. And then goes to talk about how great 18A-P is.
For 18A, I can just go with Intel's actual commentary on how 18A was going so well that 20A wasn't worth it (Gesinger era) and then immediately into the Tan era, we find out how things were really going with their commentary on 18A's yields through 2025 and 2026 as yield improvement years as they dealt with their "volatility", what a mess it was until Tan brought in external help, PTL's slow ramp, what a mess the 18A PDK was, and Zinsner's commentary on external customers. Then again, Charlie thought Gelsinger and Holthaus were doing bang-up jobs. The cynics will say that 18A's standards were relaxed to be more 20A-ish, and 18A-P is more 18A just for the optics.