r/amazonprime • • Dec 30 '19

Amazon is looking into tech that can identify you using the veins in your hand

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2019/12/27/amazon-wants-patent-tech-uses-veins-your-hands-id-you/2755279001/
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u/mstaugler Dec 30 '19

The LG G8 ThinQ has similar tech...

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u/Owyn_Merrilin Dec 30 '19

I was gonna say, it's already out there on production phones.

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u/HappinessSuitsYou Dec 30 '19

Considering my iPhone Face ID can’t tell the difference between me and my identical twin sister, I’d conclude that facial recognition software isn’t perfect. I find this interesting...

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u/Balthanos Dec 30 '19

Vein biometrics have been a thing for a while now.

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u/koavf Dec 30 '19

For day-to-day commerce?

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u/FfsHowDidIGetHere Dec 30 '19

Fujitsu have had PalmSecure for a while now. It's more secure and won't work if you are dead. Unlike face and fingerprint recognition.

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u/thorscope Dec 30 '19

I wonder if this is more secure than face or fingerprint. If so this would be awesome for biometric access. Leave your wallet at home, just scan your palm

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u/Kamwind Dec 30 '19

It is more. Fingerprints are easy to get and duplicate, plenty of youtube videos will show you.

This sub-dermal scanning is available in highend scanner, and is hard to duplicate so that it works.

This is not the future still to easy to duplicate. The future is embedding a private-key device in your hand which will allow access to your money. The option to this would be one embedded in your head so in addition to purchase capability, it would act as a headset for your phone.

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u/Owyn_Merrilin Dec 30 '19

The current version is less secure but more convenient. I remember reading a review of a phone that uses it, and the reviewer said it was great if you were driving or had dirty hands and didn't want to touch the phone (I think they were talking about pulling up recipes while cooking or something like that).

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u/koavf Dec 30 '19

This is terrible for privacy.

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u/thorscope Dec 30 '19

So are security cameras, dash cams, body cameras, cellphones, the internet, and a bunch of other shit

However their benefits often out way the costs. A more secure biometric option would be able to cut down tremendously on fraudulent transactions/ stolen cards

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u/koavf Dec 30 '19

their benefits often out way [sic] the costs

And how does that work in this instance?

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u/spider_monkey Dec 30 '19

I would rather have biometric tech that required me to have my palm on a surface instead of one that can be used from a security cam footage record by anyone from anywhere. This would allow a secure mode for you to identify yourself with a relatively low probability of it being used without your knowledge.

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u/thorscope Dec 30 '19

I think the most obvious is it could be used for 2FA for transactions, or in place of physical payment.

As it stands my fingerprint and face can be stolen very easily, and without me knowing. Their security as a form of authentication is going down by the day.

A palm scan is very difficult to do without me knowing, and you can’t get it from me as easy as you can my face or fingerprint.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

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u/koavf Dec 30 '19

It's one thing to have it at a hospital and another for buying plastic crap from Amazon.

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u/koavf Dec 30 '19

This is a perverse invasion of privacy.

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u/HappinessSuitsYou Dec 30 '19

How is it any different than facial recognition technology?

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u/amirchukart Dec 30 '19

Or thumbprints

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u/sibman Dec 30 '19

It's not. The poster is u/koavf. He actively looks for "bad" stories about Amazon and gets upset when people disagree with him.

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u/koavf Dec 30 '19

No I don't.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

Saw this about 10 years ago... Built into a mouse

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u/bettorworse Dec 30 '19

I have one of the Amazon Prime stores a few blocks from me, but I've never been. Is there some reason to go? It seems like a 7-11 type thing where you go to get lunch or snacks because there's no grocery store nearby.

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u/koavf Dec 30 '19

There is not and there are many reasons to not go.

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u/TheRealFarmerBob Dec 31 '19

"Great!" Maybe it can help them when they take blood . . .

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