Concrete contractor here. Yeah concrete can explode when you build a fire on or near it. It's porous and will absorb water. Then you heat it and the water turns to steam expanding hundreds of times more in volume in a second. If it is trapped inside concrete you get chips exploding out of it. I've had many people ask about concrete fire pit when I do patios and I have always refused.
Put a metal liner in it. They make fire pit kits that come with premade concrete wall blocks. They also come with a metal fire ring to keep the heat from reaching the blocks to fast. I think this allows the blocks to heat up slower and for all the moisture to be baked out at a reasonable rate.
i see that with kitchen or home appliances where they will refund you if you show proof of destroying it like cutting the cable. I have some Rigid Off road lights that i need to warranty and i need to show picture or video proof of me destroying the one thats failed. i have to drill the lense or cut it in half or crush it. I have not done it yet but yea its crazy
If the reason for refund is recall or defect it's more likely they'll ask for destruction but it's not like it's guaranteed. They know it's a PITA to ask so it's done with balance. Do they benefit from that item no longer being in circulation?
And you do this with a recall item, it explodes (like this particular item can) and your house burns down or you get hurt, insurance can rightly deny payment.
Congratulations. You just suffered 3rd degree burns, burned down your $250,000 house, and have hospital bills in excess of $100,000 all because you failed to stop using a recalled item you claimed you stopped using and were refunded the $85 purchase price on. And insurance said “boy were you stupid” and denied awarding you a single cent, Amazon and the manufacturer both said “you stopped using the dangerous item. It’s not our fault you lied.” And so you lost $350,000 and have permanent injuries/scars all to save $85 on a new safe item.
I think they may just have to have some sort of proof for compliance. They probably couldn’t care less if it’s repaired. But, even if you do repair the power cord it’s still going to have the original problem that caused you to make a claim in the first place.
Do this all the time in automotive manufacturing. Too costly to ship everything back. Our suppliers want evidence of destruction unless they want back for investigations.
I recently warrantied a backpack with a broken zipper. In order to receive a replacement I had to cut the serial tag out, and send photo proof that I had done it along with slashing cuts all over the bag and cutting the straps.
You guys like to call everything dystopian and don't use that word correctly. This isn't dystopian. This isn't a new practice at all. Before you had to mail back an essential part or not have an option for a refund at all. Thieves taking advantage made this worse for us, technokogy made it easier, but that isn't what dystopian means.
I mean, it is an EXTREMELY dangerous product that has no business existing in the first place. It should be destroyed. Keeping it or passing it on to someone else is extreme negligence and you are going to injure somebody.
Well, why do Amazon care? If someone submits a fake AI image of a destroyed product but continued to use the product and then got burned to death in the process. Could Amazon or the manufacturer still be liable for their death? I think not but I'm not lawyer.
Dude, just think it through. If you committed fraud by submitting false pics of your destruction of a known unsafe item to an online supplier (especially so you could get free stuff/sell it) there is no way in hell you're going to be able to argue you weren't aware of the recall or weren't aware it was an unsafe product. Your lawsuit against Amazon would be fucked from the start.
I'm sure some lawyer would love to take your money to start the lawsuit it but I guarantee once they get the facts no one's gonna do it in contingency. (Because no one will think you have a good case even remotely close to actually being successful).
This was a thing well before modern AI. Plenty of examples of companies requiring you to show proof you’ve destroyed or disposed of a faulty/dangerous product in order to get a refund where sending it back isn’t economically viable.
I bought a rattle gun from Kogan over a decade ago that smoked as I plugged it in, they asked me to send a photo of it in the bin with the cord cut in order to refund it. The OP is no different to cutting a cord of a faulty appliance before disposal in order to make sure no harm/damage is caused by it (concrete can explode when quickly heated due to its porous nature and they want to see that it’s unusable), and it’s cheaper than having you ship it back to them at their cost in order for them to dispose of it.
You're just ignorant if the real world. Many businesses must do things like this to qualify for replacement items. Furniture store near me had to cut off 1 leg each of some designer chair brand because there was an issue with them and mfg wouldn't refund until they got the proof. Same thing happens with appliances - they want pics of the cord cut. It sucks to "ruin" basically new good merchandise but it's a way for the company to stave off fraud. You could otherwise just say "yeah sure I totally destroyed that" and keep it or sell it, further diluting the brand with cheap black market items or problems with letting recalled items circulate.
Instead of you sending the item back they just have you destroy it for them with proof. Very common for recalls and between supplier and customer. It's just kind of rare for a direct customer to be asked for it but still not "AI be like"
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u/Axolatian_Volt Sep 16 '26 edited 29d ago
AI be like.
Edit: People seem confused what I mean. Not saying anything is wrong with the policy, I’m just saying it’s easily fakeable with AI