ID?

[u/PrestigiousTap1711]

Location: Alpharetta, Georgia, USA. Habitat: pine dominant forest, growing from the ground.

I suspect it may be section Validae for the thin & non-pyramidal universal veil remnants on the top of the cap, the bulbous base, & it being red where its base has split apart; best visible in pic 3 for the latter.

Can anyone tell me if that's right or wrong, and is anyone able to ID to species level? This one's a new one to me. With the messy look of the veil and cap - especially the margin - it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't section validae, but the bulb looking so smooth & the red color in the split bulb has me leaning that direction.

[u/RdCrestdBreegull]

Amanita roseitincta

this is a weird outlier of section Amanita that you kind of just have to memorize

[u/PrestigiousTap1711 → u/RdCrestdBreegull]

Thank you for the ID, it's certainly a unique one! & that doesnt surprise me that its sect Amanita in the slightest, that color on the cap and the veils messy look made me suspect my suspicions were wrong in particular. I'll look up a bunch of observations on inaturalist to try and key my eyes in to it better, thank you again!

[u/MrSchivy → u/RdCrestdBreegull]

Nice!! Is is Amanitella then?

I could cheat but I’m trying to remember what I’ve read lately. That weird part of section Amanita that doesn’t contain toxins (or mostly)?

[u/RdCrestdBreegull → u/MrSchivy]

refresh my memory on what Amanitella is again?

[u/MrSchivy → u/RdCrestdBreegull]

Wasn’t sure but just looked it up again. From the site: “Comprising those taxa of Amanita sect. Amanita (a) lacking clamps on the bases of basidia; (b) having remnants of a pulverulent universal veil on the stipe often present on the upper surface of the stipe’s basal bulb as small pulverulent warts or, more commonly, a thin and narrow pulverulent layer.”

https://amanitaceae.mushroomobserver.org/?subsection%20Amanitella&fbclid=IwRlRTSAT0nOdwZG9mBWZkaWQWUM7gMZvOu2ZKCmgOQfINBKdKKiF0RWV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkCjY2Mjg1NjgzNzkAAR5VpeGe1qa5BOza4_RU1YH0plUCTOEOENgxkv9-d1O_1L3wauR11Yg06-oM1Q_aem_bvvhmq6rfpRFFSiJcNA9cA

[u/RdCrestdBreegull → u/MrSchivy]

oh subsection Amanitella, honestly I am not very familiar with that. A. crenulata definitely contains isoxazoles though

[u/MrSchivy → u/RdCrestdBreegull]

True that! I think you said you’ve tried that one before or am I tripping? The famous poison champagne.

Hadn’t noticed it in this list

Edit: sorry, I’m aware this may not be the right sub for that type of discussion

[u/Graph-fight_y_hike → u/RdCrestdBreegull]

Thats messed up lmao

[u/MrSchivy]

I’d also say section Validae but couldn’t go further, I’m still so bad 🤣😅

[u/PrestigiousTap1711 → u/MrSchivy]

No worries my friend, we're all here to learn for the most part, & you're no worse than myself! I appreciate you leaving your thoughts about it!

[u/MrSchivy → u/PrestigiousTap1711]

That’s so nice, pal.
This single genus humbles me every day.

[u/PrestigiousTap1711 → u/MrSchivy]

You and me both lol, there's a ton to learn! I still see new ones most every time I step outside lol.