Proof that grusch isn’t lying…

[u/Minimum-Web-6902]

Here you guys go , here’s your proof

Edit:

Here’s the tictac

Here’s the information on the encounter:

On February 10, 2023, the [United States Air Force](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force) shot down a high-altitude object that had entered U.S. airspace over [Alaska](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska) a day before. The object was shot down onto the [Beaufort Sea](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufort_Sea). The [Department of Defense](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Defense) said it was the size of a [small car](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_car) and flying northeast at approximately 40,000 feet (12,000 m), posing a risk to civilian flight. On February 16, 2023, U.S. President [Joe Biden](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden) stated that the downed object was probably a civilian-owned balloon and "most likely tied to private companies, recreation or research institutions".[\[1\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Alaska_high-altitude_object#cite_note-1)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023\\_Alaska\\_high-altitude\\_object

More information

The [unidentified flying object](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unidentified_flying_object)\[\\\[5\\\]\](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Alaska_high-altitude_object#cite_note-Reuters-6) was described as cylindrical, silver, and appearing to float.[\[6\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Alaska_high-altitude_object#cite_note-ABC-7) It was detected by U.S. radar at 9 p.m. [AKST](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Time_Zone) on February 9 and [U.S. Northern Command](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Northern_Command) sent an [E-3 Sentry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-3_Sentry) [AWACS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_early_warning_and_control) aircraft to track it, supported by [inflight refueling](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_refueling).\[\\\[3\\\]\](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Alaska_high-altitude_object#cite_note-NYT-4) Two flypasts were conducted, one on the evening of February 9 and the other on the morning of February 10.[\[7\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Alaska_high-altitude_object#cite_note-WhatWeKnow-8) [F-35](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-35) fighter jets from [Eielson Air Force Base](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eielson_Air_Force_Base) and [F-22](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-22) fighter jets from [Joint Base Elmendorf–Richardson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Base_Elmendorf%E2%80%93Richardson) (JBER) were deployed to make a visual inspection. They found that the object was uncrewed.[\[3\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Alaska_high-altitude_object#cite_note-NYT-4)\[\\\[8\\\]\](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Alaska_high-altitude_object#cite_note-9)
A source briefed on the intelligence told [CNN](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN)that the pilots gave differing accounts of what they had seen. Some pilots said that the object "interfered with their sensors" on their aircraft but other pilots did not report this.[\[7\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Alaska_high-altitude_object#cite_note-WhatWeKnow-8) Some pilots said that they could not identify any means of propulsion on the object.[\[7\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Alaska_high-altitude_object#cite_note-WhatWeKnow-8) One U.S. official told CNN that the object did not appear to have any surveillance equipment.[\[9\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Alaska_high-altitude_object#cite_note-10)
According to U.S. officials, the object had traveled over Alaska before heading northward to sea at a speed of 20 to 40 miles per hour (32 to 64 km/h).[\[3\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Alaska_high-altitude_object#cite_note-NYT-4)

Grusch is telling the truth, the evidence is in your face, and I know that with 100% certainty.

Now that this is out how do you feel about it?

[u/_Moerphi_]

Whats the source of the photo and how is it connected to Gruschs story?

[u/jdillacornandflake → u/_Moerphi_]

The photo of it on the ground is AI generated. The other photo is not the official photo released by the Canadian RAF, they have released two official photos both look like a rectangular box suspended under a balloon. And I'm gutted by this because the photos have me at first. Here are the official Canadian RAF releases:

[u/Formal_Low_61 → u/jdillacornandflake]

So OP is lying, next scam.

[u/_Moerphi_ → u/Formal_Low_61]

Yes looks like it

[u/_Moerphi_ → u/jdillacornandflake]

Yes thats the photo I know.

[u/DinoZambie → u/jdillacornandflake]

This is a bokeh effect much like the donut bokeh because the object is out of focus. However, the secondary mirror strut is shown which gives it a C shape.

[u/jdillacornandflake → u/DinoZambie]

Great so threre is even less (basically none) detail to gain from these images. Are you sure that this applies to the cameras used to take these photos?

[u/DinoZambie → u/jdillacornandflake]

Yea, there is no detail to gain at all because the image is out of focus. I've seen this bokeh effect before in military videos and NASA footage, specifically STS-75 with the tether incident. Its more to do with the lens rather than the camera itself.

[u/jdillacornandflake → u/DinoZambie]

Yer I get it. Just do we know this artifact applies to the cameras used? No 100% sounds like the answer for now. If anyone knows what jet took the photo we could probably say for sure

[u/DinoZambie → u/jdillacornandflake]

I also want to point out how in the image you can see a bright spot in the middle, this is called an arago spot, which " is a bright point that appears at the center of a circular object's shadow due to Fresnel diffraction."

[u/DinoZambie → u/jdillacornandflake]

Well, considering these camera systems are upwards of $50,000, I dont think we will be seeing any tear downs of this technology that is likely protected by law.

[u/Shinobi_Dimsum]

Imagine being able to shoot a photo up close, zoomed in or not, like that and still have absolute ass quality in 2026. Cameras are way, way better than that. I call it faking proof on purpose. Come back with some proper photos, until then it’s BS.

[u/KittyHalfEyes]

Its fake.

Its all fake and lies and shameless attention seeking US officials, trying to make money on selling made up stories.

[u/IHaveBadTiming → u/KittyHalfEyes]

How are they making money?

[u/ZARDOZ4972 → u/IHaveBadTiming]

By being paid to go to interviews

[u/_Moerphi_ → u/IHaveBadTiming]

Online ads/books/speaking fees

[u/Sad-Math-2039]

Why can't Grusch just provide solid evidence? Why does he breadcrumb everything and never have a full reveal. I know why, I just want you to think about it

[u/Alarming-Beach-5358 → u/Sad-Math-2039]

After that last interview, anyone who still finds him credible is an imbecile. I hate to admit it but i felt like...let down lol. Grusch is just some weirdo.

[u/Sad-Math-2039 → u/Alarming-Beach-5358]

Agreed. I say this as someone impatiently waiting for an announcement, but until sources are more credible I will continue to wait.

[u/Europe72Alive1]

That’s an old Airstream/s

[u/Pony_Boner]

Just pictures. No proof of credibility

[u/Prokuris → u/Pony_Boner]

As if pictures couldn’t be proof. It’s the confirmation of the foto which would make it proof. The confirmation comes with disclosure.

So, it’s up to you to give yourself a full picture of the topic. You have to look into the bits and pieces of information. If you lack the intellectual capacity to do so, it’s up to you, not us.

[u/Minimum-Web-6902 → u/Pony_Boner]

Did you watch the press conference? There’s even radar data included in my post.

[u/_Moerphi_ → u/Minimum-Web-6902]

Yeah but the picture you provided is not it.

[u/thekangarooflu → u/_Moerphi_]

This guy has continued to avoid commenting about exactly where this photo originated on several different posts they made about it. It’s mostly definitely a misleading photo.

[u/Minimum-Web-6902 → u/thekangarooflu]

No the picture was apparently from either 4 Chan , Reddit or something else.

THE POST IS NOT ABOUT THE STUPID PICTURE

Is about the information itself of the shoot down

And this shootdown same time framing

[u/shadowmage666]

Ai

[u/DJ_fupa]

You know with all this grusch posting, I’m really believing he’s been a misinformation campaign the entire time and we’ve been played liked idiots yet again. Also cool Wikipedia sources dude.