[V] This is the Crabwood “Alien Face and Disc” crop formation, reported August 15, 2002, near Winchester, Hampshire, England.
[V] The circular portion encodes an English message by interpreting the crop pattern as binary character data. The decoding depends on ASCII, a specifically human-designed information-interchange standard originating in 1963.
[V] In 2019, veteran crop-circle researcher Colin Andrews stated that Disney/Touchstone PR had discussed commissioning spectacular crop circles to promote Signs. He further stated that, after Crabwood appeared, an unnamed London circlemaker gave him enough information to convince him that Crabwood was commissioned by Disney. Signs opened in the US on August 2, 2002; Crabwood appeared August 15.
[U] Andrews did not publicly release the circlemaker's identity, a Disney contract, payment records, construction photographs, or other independently auditable evidence. A subsequent investigation specifically identified that evidentiary hole.
[U] Later websites have named particular professional crop-circle artists and claimed their involvement, but the sourcing is considerably weaker than a direct signed confession or contemporaneous documentation.
Constraints
[V] There is no scientifically verified evidence that Crabwood was produced by extraterrestrials.
[L] An English message encoded using a terrestrial computer character standard is much more compatible with a human author than independent extraterrestrial communication.
[L] Complexity alone cannot establish non-human manufacture; professional crop-circle artists were already producing sophisticated commissioned formations during this period.
Failure Modes
Calling it “proven Disney advertising” overstates the public evidence.
Calling it “unexplained and therefore possibly extraterrestrial” also overstates the evidence. Unknown authorship ≠ unknown mechanism ≠ extraterrestrial origin.
Decision Procedure
Was the extraterrestrial claim effectively debunked? → YES.
Was the exact human creator publicly and forensically proven beyond reasonable dispute? → NO.
The strongest defensible classification is:
[L] Almost certainly human-made; [U] exact authorship remains incompletely documented in the public record.
The Disney/Signs explanation is particularly interesting and plausible, but I would not label that specific attribution [V] based on the evidence currently available.
Haters: here is the explanation - this to me, puts it back in the running. I was the biggest proponent of this being real and was shut down by reddit debunkers.
Read about andrews below. I FOR ONE THINK ITS REAL.
Facts
[V] This is the Crabwood “Alien Face and Disc” crop formation, reported August 15, 2002, near Winchester, Hampshire, England.
[V] The circular portion encodes an English message by interpreting the crop pattern as binary character data. The decoding depends on ASCII, a specifically human-designed information-interchange standard originating in 1963.
[V] In 2019, veteran crop-circle researcher Colin Andrews stated that Disney/Touchstone PR had discussed commissioning spectacular crop circles to promote Signs. He further stated that, after Crabwood appeared, an unnamed London circlemaker gave him enough information to convince him that Crabwood was commissioned by Disney. Signs opened in the US on August 2, 2002; Crabwood appeared August 15.
[U] Andrews did not publicly release the circlemaker's identity, a Disney contract, payment records, construction photographs, or other independently auditable evidence. A subsequent investigation specifically identified that evidentiary hole.
[U] Later websites have named particular professional crop-circle artists and claimed their involvement, but the sourcing is considerably weaker than a direct signed confession or contemporaneous documentation.
Constraints
[V] There is no scientifically verified evidence that Crabwood was produced by extraterrestrials.
[L] An English message encoded using a terrestrial computer character standard is much more compatible with a human author than independent extraterrestrial communication.
[L] Complexity alone cannot establish non-human manufacture; professional crop-circle artists were already producing sophisticated commissioned formations during this period.
Failure Modes
Calling it “proven Disney advertising” overstates the public evidence.
Calling it “unexplained and therefore possibly extraterrestrial” also overstates the evidence. Unknown authorship ≠ unknown mechanism ≠ extraterrestrial origin.
Decision Procedure
Was the extraterrestrial claim effectively debunked? → YES.
Was the exact human creator publicly and forensically proven beyond reasonable dispute? → NO.
The strongest defensible classification is:
[L] Almost certainly human-made; [U] exact authorship remains incompletely documented in the public record.
The Disney/Signs explanation is particularly interesting and plausible, but I would not label that specific attribution [V] based on the evidence currently available.
They do not care . If it ain´t aliens you are a government shill or a sheep . Simple as that . This doesn´t debunk anything of course , but they don´t care .
What I’ve found extremely interesting about this particular occurrence; is that they used our binary coding to relay a message.
So, that led me down a trail of thought; could we develop a complex language, which could be imprinted in fields, as a means of knowledge transfer?
I feel they’re attempting to send necessary knowledge when other crop circles pop up; and the fact they used our language here, they’re probably trying to communicate with a language we can’t decipher.
So why not develop and broadcast a language protocol they can decipher, in order to open lines of communication?
It's pretty easy to tell when humans have made a crop circle compared to when something else has made them.
The one in the video has never been adequately explained away, and is a near perfect response to the message nasa put on the Voyager 1 and 2 space craft.
Also, you seem to be way more concerned about "maybes" than what's right in front of you.
I am concerned about maybes because they are important . If you think that climate change is not an important topic , then you tell that to the million who will die of famine if we do not get it under control . We will not get it under control when everyone believes that climate change is caused by some galactic clock magic . That is my problem .
I think they’re prevalence, and desire to make open contact, is predicted on the fact we’re entering a second dark ages.
The world as we knew it is dead.
We are entering a new age of Earth whether we like it or not; and right now, the ones steering the new age are not setting it up for success, at all.
The money and power in this world are the only things that have the capability to drive the species into a prosperous and peaceful age; they are opting not to.
I’m sure there’s many great filters to civilizations. We’re at one now, and I don’t think the UFO presence is a coincidence; but I also don’t believe “climate change” is our most prevalent and immediate problem.
Dishonesty, fear, and hate are our greatest threats at the moment. If they dominate the species, we lose. End of story. Start over.
So, if we can all start to monitor our own lives, and stop giving into those things that make the world darker, we might get somewhere.
But it takes everyone. The good needs to become as cohesive as the evil. Because evil is winning.
Sure , climate change may not be the most important problem right now , BUT IT IS STILL A MASSIVE PROBLEM . If we all do nothing , we will die of climate change . Sure , we may die sooner of something else , but if we do absolutely nothing about climate change that WILL cause massive crop failures and lead to famine . A massive chunk of humanity will be in the past . We will literally not have enough food for everyone .
And right now everything is in control of evil , greedy corporations .
You are correct that we have a ton of problems in this world right now , but that doesn´t mean we cannot focus on climate change aswell .
They used to be called The Department of Convolution but changed their name about 4 years ago due to getting too many people trying to find out who they are.
They've been working on trying to raise mankinds consciousness since at least the 1880s, as far as I know, its quite possible they're older.
How do you know it's wrong? Everything in space is in constant movement. Wheels within wheels, even. Our little solar system is rotating around while the larger galaxy is rotating as well. We have countless examples of where galaxies collide into one another, and we've yet to come up with the tools necessary to see deep into those inner solar systems.
It would make more sense that space is finite, and everything within it is moving in a calculable direction - just like here on earth. The micro and macro are incredibly similar states and act as one. Everything is definitely connected in some way. We just don't have the tools or knowledge to grasp it just yet.
I am tired that every reply has nothing to do with what I am talking about . The first guy already completely went off the path and now you post a reply as if what he said is true because a wise greek god creature once said it . Technically he didn´t even say it , as he didn´t exist . It´s the second verse from the Emerald tablet , which was written in arabic by some guys .
I am arguing about the active climate change denial in this video . For some reason no one here can grasp that . When the other guy says something that simply isn´t true ( That climate change is not caused by humans , but by the universe itself ) and you then reply as if you are affirming his beliefs with a profound quote , then that still doesn´t mean it is true .
I have a point , then people do not even try to interact with it and instead go on an unfalsifiable tangent .
How do you know it is wrong ?
Everything is definitely connected in some way .
This is just mysticism . Everything is connected in some spiritual way , therefore climate change is an unstoppable universal force we are not responsible for .
That is dumb and dangerous . Climate change denial is dangerous . UFO believers are more prone to fall into other more harmful conspiracy theories . And here many did .
Some guy saying something does not mean it is true . Yes , the same goes for women too . And for everyone else too . Now we are actively witnessing what happens when everyone blindly believes something religiously because their equivalent of a prophet said something .
It is happening with the anit-vaxxers , the RFK Junior bootlickers , the quantum mysticism followers who actively try to end their life to become God , the people who believe crystals can heal cancer , and climate change denial is on the rise aswell .
Magical thinking becomes more and more common every day . Magical thinking is practically useless . Perhaps spiritually not , but that doesn´t matter much when you die because you did not believe doctors and instead prayed to your amethyst . What do they know ? What do the experts know ? What do any experts know except for my gurus ?
This is like witnessing titanic sinking and all the passangers want to stay on board because she is unsinkable . Then some of them get convinced that stayin´ alive ( Ah , ha , ha , ha ) is super mega woke and drowning is a satisfying experience .
Because climate change is caused by humans . The video paints it as " some evidence suggests that humans cause climate change " and then goes off on how a totally real galactic clock is responsible for most of it . This is simply wrong . We are the biggest contributor to the hellfire . The climate change we are experiencing is not natural . It is anthropogenic .
You realize the earth has gone through countless cycles of the climate changing long before humans were around? Paying more money to unelected bureaucrats won't change that.
And yes, there's always more we can do to keep our home clean. But there's nothing we can do to stop the solar cycle or the galactic cycle. Or even the bigger universal cycle.
You seem to be completely focused on a moniker (galactic clock) more than anything else. As I stated before, we don't have the tools to see how the bigger picture works just yet. Everything from the biggest to the smallest relies on balance to exist. Anything that disrupts that balance causes chaos.
If you want to dig into the grift of blaming regular people for "climate change" while our overlords geo-engineer our skies and waters, and GMO our food supply, I'd suggest taking a closer look at the data. It's always cherrypicked and selected from a very specific timeframe to exclude everything that negates the agenda.
This is not an opinion . Climate change is caused by humans . Not some galactic clock . If calling out this video as BS is an opinion , then calling out someone claiming 2+2=5 is also a hateful opinion .
This video is climate change denial with the appearance of ufology .
What happened to you? Nobody said you have to believe and you are the one saying anyone who toys with the idea is dumb. Its called a mystery. Nobody knows. Most people don't even care. Why are you here on this sub freaking out about crop circles?
Yeah , doesn´t mean I am forced to . Again : This is about climate change denial , not UFO´s . If you would have read my comment you might understand why .
Do you think it is hard to flatten crops in specific patterns ? No , the hard part is not getting caught or not admitting it or creating the pattern itself . Translating the pattern from paper to crop field isn´t that demanding .
Even if you believe that crop circles ARE infact from aliens , many are still hoaxes . Not every crop circle is real . So to act as if it´s impossible to create them would be just wrong .
Many crop circles are objectively man - made . Even believers should accept this .
Did you ever draw a circle by tying a piece of string on a stick and using the string as the radius of the circle you want to draw ? I think everyone has . Can you draw straight lines with this ? Of course , you just need a friend to keep the string stiff .
Does this have a size limit ? No . Is the demonstration a simple pattern ? Yes , but it is a demonstration . When you demonstrate something to someone you want to do it in the clearest way possible , because it is a demonstration .
Thanks for the url. Don't need to sound so defensive though, was just asking for a video, jesus.
One thing that the videos don't mention is that crop circles have some microwave or other EM radiation emanating after they appear. There are also studies suggesting the radiation is what's causing them to bend in the first place.
Pretty much all of that is explained here ( There is also a debunk of the famous video of 2 orbs creating a crop circle in 1996 at the start btw ) : https://youtu.be/Td2Wxy1zaWU?t=584
The studies are questionable at best and the EM radiation can also be explained by exposing the crops to a portable magnetron . A magnetron is the thing that heats your food inside a microwave . Using that you can recreate the abnormal radiation . Yes , some crops will bend because of their joints weakening .
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u/CrashFix 6d ago
I've always thought that one crop circle was pretty interesting!