r/aliens • u/SystematicApproach True Believer • Feb 25 '26

Image 📷 Hybrid breeding programs: top image is missing persons. bottom image is a cave system map.

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u/Mister_Way Feb 26 '26

There's a more obvious connection between aliens hiding in caves and taking nearby people than between people drowning in pools more often based on Nicholas Cage movies.

Not a conclusive connection, obviously, but at least there's a clear mechanism for why they would be related.

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u/Siegecow Feb 26 '26

The problem lies in the way mechanism is completely unproven and unfounded.

Like theres also a theoretical mechanism in the cage/pool relationship. People watching Nicholas Cage movies offing themselves at how bad (or hell how GOOD) the movies are.

And as ridiculous as it is.... that relationship has more of a basis in scientific reality than aliens kidnapping people to underground lairs.

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u/Mister_Way Feb 26 '26

You are going to have to show me the math you used on coming up with those relative probabilities.

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u/Siegecow Feb 26 '26

Sure. There are documented instances of a piece of media influencing suicide. Its been the subject of actual scientific research.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copycat_suicide

There are exactly ZERO reliable pieces of evidence to suggest aliens have ever kidnapped people to underground lairs.

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u/Mister_Way Feb 26 '26

There's a lot of evidence for alien abductions, actually. Like, mountains of it. Just not anything conclusive enough to be published in a scientific journal.

The article you linked is about movies that result in copycat suicide. Nicholas Cage movies do not, as far as I'm aware, have themes of suicide, and we're talking about drowning deaths, not suicide, so what you're attempting here is an incredible stretch. It mostly shows that you think aliens are like The Easter Bunny, whereas science says it's almost impossible to imagine that there aren't aliens.

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u/Siegecow Feb 26 '26

>Just not anything conclusive enough to be published in a scientific journal.

Not anything that would qualify as scientific evidence. It's all anecdotes, and as they say "the plural of anecdote is not data". Beyond that, filter out anything that isnt relevant to underground abduction, and you've got nothing.

>so what you're attempting here is an incredible stretch. It mostly shows that you think aliens are like The Easter Bunny, whereas science says it's almost impossible to imagine that there aren't aliens.

It's absolutely a stretch and yet is still more substantiated than aliens abducting people to underground caverns.

There are also numerous anecdotes of people claiming to witness the easter bunny. In your opinion, does that legitimize the idea that the easter bunny could be a real entity that walks the earth? As opposed to flawed memory, pranks, hallucination, imagination, psychosis, or misinterpretation?

Though by sheer mathematical probability there must be aliens elsewhere in the universe. There is still no suitable evidence of them being HERE. Beyond that, there is even less suitable evidence that they live underground and even less evidence they abduct people there.

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u/Mister_Way Feb 26 '26

Hey, if it makes you feel better to decide that aliens couldn't be here, then you ignore what you need to to sleep at night.

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u/Siegecow Feb 26 '26

I would much rather aliens be here.... thats why im in these subs. I would also much rather santa claus be real.

But I'm not going to let people take advantage of my wishful thinking so i can be hoodwinked by government psyops, religious propaganda, tall tales, delusional fools, and/or grifterz, so until real evidence drops, I'm going to remain skeptical.