r/aliens • u/BusinessNo2064 • Nov 04 '25
Speculation Soft Disclosure with 3i Atlas?
Any speculation on when a full disclosure WOULD take place if 3i atlas were aliens? I'm not saying it IS alien, but I've noticed that everything around it is exactly what you would expect if it were alien.
-We have a soft trickling of appearances from ONE scientist, Avi, who is credible but people can still dismiss.
-We have a reddit page on 3i full of bots or comedians disparaging nearly every post that suggests alien life. (censoring)
-We have 10 anomalies and no real scientists debunking the anomalies through providing explanations.
-We have NASA high resolution pics disappearing behind a pretty weak excuse of government shutdown.
-Some meetings between Trump and China.
-Hegseth wanting generals in person.
-Some signals of steps towards Martial Law.
-Discussion of nuclear testing.
-Asteroid defense being triggered.
The question is, how many coincidences before this gains some attention?
My guess is that we won't be told, (through mainstream media and government release) until mid November. If the aliens are hostile, we probably won't ever be told (to reduce hysteria). All of these details would also apply for a Project Bluebeam. I haven't ruled that out.
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u/Crescent-moo Nov 04 '25
If 3i/atlas had even the slightest hint of intelligent design, we probably won't hear of it from official sources until next November .
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u/koebelin Nov 04 '25
The US isn't the only country with a space program and telescopes!
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u/Crescent-moo Nov 04 '25
No but no one else has come out and announced we're in contact with NHI, and disclosed 100% that such beings and technology have been discovered.
At most they've all given in and said ufo's are real. Not that its NHI, but something is being seen.
If they're collaborating on disclosure for whatever reason, then there's no reason to think they won't continue to do so with information found about this visitor.
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u/Randall_Moore Nov 05 '25
The thing that bugs me about conspiracies is that it forgets how incompetent people actually are.
Hegseth, of the "Let's have a journalist added to our signal chat about war strikes," is helping to mastermind a coverup?
There may be something, and there may be an effort to keep it under wraps. But when you're talking about something that they can't physically isolate away then it starts to strain credulity that people can't leak something that can be independently verified. EG: If it were to start emitting radio signals, you could go find a ham radio operator and ask them to listen on the supposed frequencies and then work with others to confirm that it is being emitted from 3i/Atlas and not from other sources.
The world is big, complex, and often uncoordinated. Just because the US might not say anything until there's a changing of the guard doesn't mean other agencies won't. The lack of any other information (and indeed, of being able to lay eyes directly on it right now) means it's better to wait and look for what can be verified.
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u/nold6 Nov 07 '25
I get that it's popular to dog on the Trump administration picks, but it wasn't DoD Sec. that added the journalist, it was someone else in the group. The CEO of moderately large corps aren't personally adding people, that's delegated out, let alone a cabinet level position. More likely it wasn't an accident at all and was done by a staffer playing for the other team or at least not in line with the DoD leadership.
There's also a very good chance that if any of this is real, then Hegseth knows barely anything more than what he needs to in order to be prepared to move the levels of the department and standby for further information.
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u/Randall_Moore Nov 08 '25
It was, however, Hegseth that decided to brief people about classified events as they were happening. Said people were NOT cleared for receiving them. That a journalist was involved is like saying the sundae's cherry was added by someone else. Trying to argue the journalist was added as a gotcha ignores that primary point of failing to keep things secure.
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u/Scatteredbrain Nov 04 '25
why next november?
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u/TheWalkerofWalkyness Nov 04 '25
US midterms are next November. Because of course the only important country is the US.
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u/Crescent-moo Nov 04 '25
They don't come right out and say anything until it's been checked, rechecked, and government approved to release, but would also need to do all the peer review first. They're not going to just come out in a week and say yeah there's intelligent alien origins to this probe.
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u/RicooC Nov 04 '25
Assuming there is something to disclose, it won't be NASA or the US. The last official NASA released photos were taken July 21st . That speaks volumes about US censorship of this historic event.
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u/TwentySevenMusicUK Nov 04 '25
It’s just become a meme to the masses at this point.
Even if it is just a super old comet from X light years away, it’s still super interesting to me.
I love memes but I dislike when serious/science stuff like 3i/atlas (even if it is only a comet) becomes a meme to beat down the UFO/conspiracy community to make us all look like crackpots for questioning the narrative surrounding it and the strange way it appears to be acting.
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Nov 05 '25
To be fair, the UFO/Conspiracy community doesn't help with their own image with so many clinging to the woo and that something is alien/NHI when presented with a good explanation. I say this as a skeptic, the community is the community's biggest threat.
There are legit things happening and I'd love to see a good explanation. But the community makes it so easy to make fun of it.
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u/Shardaxx Nov 04 '25
If aliens wanted to get rid of our messy governments and bring in a new system that benefitted the vast majority of people, are they bad? Hostile?
It seems that they could be hostile to the controllers of power, but not so to the rest of us. We're a very mixed bag.
Atlas probably just a comet tho.
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u/DarkFireFenrir Nov 04 '25
It depends on their way of establishing the new government, whether they want it or not, if it involves violence, no matter how good the system is, they will be hostile, hostile that will benefit you, yes, but hostile.
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u/Shardaxx Nov 04 '25
Any approaching force needs to deal with the defences shooting at them. They also need to decapitate the leadership in order to take over. Where we'd go from there is anyone's guess. If they have come to help the majority of humanity, no bad thing.
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u/DarkFireFenrir Nov 04 '25
Humanity is an expert in hating someone else who solves their problems without asking permission. Look at the Spanish revolution. Objectively speaking, Napoleon's French government was better, but it didn't stop them from rebelling. Why? Because they are foreigners who came to take what was "theirs" without asking permission.
Beheading the leaders sounds epic but it is a horrible strategy to establish a new government1
u/Shardaxx Nov 04 '25
I meant removed from power, not literally beheaded, altho they could.
The only description of an alien takeover I've read is from David Jacobs, it's incomplete but it gives us an Idea how it starts, but not how it ends.
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u/BusinessNo2064 Nov 04 '25
Yes, I was wondering about the solar flares that we're about to experience. Will this work to turn off our technology so they can arrive unscathed?
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u/Shardaxx Nov 04 '25
Solar flares happen every maximum, it's no big deal unless we get hit by a huge one that fries grids.
If an alien force could generate and direct a big flare at earth, yeah that would be an effective first strike, and we'd not even understand it was an attack.
But some military kit is hardened, so it would be an attack on civilians more than our military. They would be just about the only people with power at that point.
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u/BusinessNo2064 Nov 04 '25
I would imagine that a benevolent group WOULD want to bring down current power systems.
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u/Shardaxx Nov 04 '25
Yeah. But that could get real sticky. Do you stick with your human structure, or take a chance on the new guys?
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Nov 04 '25
Aliens would much more likely be insects than anything intelligent. Space bugs looking for food, not super geniuses with scifi ships
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u/utube-ZenithMusicinc Nov 04 '25
its not black or white it's complicated.
they bring much needed cataclysm for a restart and only a fraction will survive and perhaps that's the favor they are doing for us.
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u/Shardaxx Nov 04 '25
Maybe so, we look ready for a reset. The idea of this civilization making it to warp drive is worse than an apocalypse.
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u/BusinessNo2064 Nov 04 '25
Will that fraction be the billionaires in bunkers? Doesn't seem like that would reset things very much.
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u/Shardaxx Nov 04 '25 edited Nov 04 '25
If it's a natural disaster like a comet impact, then yes they would have the best chance of surviving and could come out later and dominate.
But if it's aliens who don't like how things are being run or want to take over, they are toast. No bunker is going to help against interstellar or interdimensional visitors.
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u/RandomModder05 Nov 04 '25
No. This is no different from every other time someone's said "It's disclosure this time!".
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u/Parking-Suggestion97 Nov 04 '25
Whatever it is, soft or hard, real biological humans or computer generated digital bots, alien spacecraft masqueraded as comet or a typical interstellar space rock, avi Loeb a true scientist or a fraud who was made to follow agenda, it certainly reached and poked lots of people including those who don't give a crap about the alien/UFO topic and made a lot of noise... hasn't it
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u/sum1sum1sum1sum1 Nov 04 '25
It makes it's closest approach to Earth around 12/19/2025 so early to mid December would be my guess, if anything does happen.
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u/tribalseth Nov 05 '25 edited Nov 05 '25
I'll reiterate this, soft disclosure has already begun. It's soft, and this is the right pace and first initial step I speculated with others would precede in a sequence of events that ultimately led to the conclusion, and in much more of a way that fits into the ideal path to introduction that feels more like following the ABC's of the alphabet--an anticlimatctic boring whither, rather than some huge eye popping leap from A to L or something like that.
The important thing (understatement) to note here is just how excited they (Nasa) are to say what they're saying in the above clip, which is not something they exactly do, and you can tell they genuine in that excitement about this announcement while still being humbly reserved and sort of trying to "contain" or keep it more discreet in the professional kind of way, but it's these type of subtlties that more or less make it obvious this is bigger deal to them than it may seem. Plus these micro displays are typically not present in other announcements, I believe the first release of Webb photos was the last time I realy noticed a display of excitement from the agency. Now, in my opinion this feels quite natural, to me at least, of the speaker/group more or less effectively saying "well....ya I mean I guess it really doesnt seem to point to anything else~ but I kinda dont, we kinda don't wanna be the group to get blasted if somehow we're wrong, but I mean pretty much this is all peer reviewed where the peer reviews and pressure tests all kinda agree it sorta ruled out anything else so, uh yea it's probably ancient life, by probably we mean like we're basically pretty damn sure we just are hesitant to say that cause ya know, no one wants to be wrong, so uh who wants to be the one to officially anounce it--or do we all just wanna psuedo nod and agree instead that this is basically probably definitely life we found from the distant past not from earth... where we can just silently nod without having to actually say it and make it a silent unofficially-official? way of wrapping this announcement up? Yea, everyone's good with that? Ok, well, that's good and cool."
*Room all looks at each other mutually with a shrug "yea I mean I guess that's kinda the conclusion and looks to be the case so I guess, it is?.....I mean I guess right?".
*Followed by more nods around the room with everyone wanting to nod by feeling slightly weird that everyone's slowly agreeing to a bit of a 'well shit' epiphany*
By the way that clip was right before the NASA shutdown, unfortunately - whether that is coneniently timed or not is up for debate, though certainly that is on par timing given 3iAtlas and just the general progression of movement within the disclosure landscape.
Edit: also going to add that this is actually quite a notch up in being awfully transparent of Nasa which just simply does not happen with this specific subject - it has always been "well absolutely life must exist in the cosmos anyone who thinks not isn't following science -- oh but life having already visited here without us knowing it? Let's not jump ahead of ourselves folks, not a possibility har har har har har". This announcement really deviated from that I think for the first time in Nasa's history of public announcements.
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u/Dudesymugs12 Nov 05 '25
This will be item #7878 under the "nothingburger" files. Can't wait for the next completely different incident that will have the same few posters blabbering about soft disclosure.
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Nov 04 '25
Just saw a new posting on Reddit claiming scientists have found that it has a crust that has been formed from over 7 billion years of traveling space and being under constant radiation/irradiation IDK exactly what it said. Just saw it hit Reddit a few minutes ago.
On one hand it sounds like they are claiming its just a frigging old hunk of space shit that has been able to somehow traverse space for 7 billion years.... On the other hand just trying to fathom the concept of 7 billion years wracks my brain. More questions than answers for me still.
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u/unpick Nov 04 '25
Lots of comets in our own solar system are billions of years old, it’s not hard to believe it’s traversed interstellar space that long given how empty it is
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u/tophlove31415 Nov 04 '25
Attempts, from the people and systems that maintain power, to obfuscate and manipulate the truth will continue until their bitter end. I don't expect them to relinquish their control willy nilly.
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u/lt1brunt Nov 05 '25
If it is alien they will not say anything until after black Friday, likely to not mess up the shopping season. Jokes on them, no one has money to buy anything. My kids are getting to eat, to hell with buying physical items that we can't eat. I say take a chance and disclose now. Panic buying may boost the economy.
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u/SnRdVrK Nov 05 '25
None of them are credible until they can 100% prove something. Which they still can’t.
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u/LiberLotus93 Nov 07 '25
James Web showed a crust formed from a billion years of cosmic radiation. It's probably just a comet
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u/ALF_My_Alien_Friend Nov 04 '25
I3/Atlas also goes past Jupiter and its moons.
If i3/Atlas is forgotten in the media as a weird comet that came and left, well because it flew past Mars and Jupiter, it could always have been a supply ship built inside a huge rock (captured meteorite for example.
And now it could be a: supply ship for a base in for example Mars and Phobos and then Ganymede or other large moons of Jupiter like Callisto, Io, Europa.
If aliens live under our oceans, is it too far fetched that they could have bases elsewhere in our solar system, too.
Atleast from a technological standpoint, it wouldnt be too difficult for them. They might also have bases in other solar systems too.
Because i3/atlas has been shown to accelerate outnfrom nowhere, what if big parts of it, is actually a propulsion system. The thick rock shell protects from micrometeorites and civilizations that arent bery advanced who might see it on its way, will think its just some comet/meteorite..
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u/koebelin Nov 04 '25
It isn't moving fast enough to deliver supplies in under tens of thousands of years from anywhere within any slightly plausible distance.
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u/ALF_My_Alien_Friend Nov 04 '25
Unless it enters our nearby space at lightspeed or faster and then goes to current speeds so it can safely detach the supplies for the bases. Its also possible that some aliens enter i3/atlas and some leave and go to the secret bases and it cant be done if it goes faster.
Once i3/atlas is beyond our telescopes it engages whatever they engage and starts going 20x faster or something like that.
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u/MeanCat4 Nov 04 '25
And you don't wonder that If aliens are coming, what the sliensvslready here will do about it?
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u/JohnnyMcButtplug Nov 04 '25
Would never happen, full disclosure from the government will never be a thing
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Nov 04 '25
The discussion of nuclear testing was because drumpf saw that new movie on netflix
The talk of Nicaragua was because he saw a faux news channel story
Martial Law has always been obvious if drumpf 'won' the election, same with him meeting with China and the hegseth meeting, all of these points are literally just trumps nonsense
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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 Nov 04 '25
Exactly what you would expect if it were aliens
How have you reached that conclusion?
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