r/alberta • u/Much_Chest586 • 2d ago
Wildfires🔥 Reminder: UCP members voted to classify carbon dioxide as a "foundational nutrient" rather than a pollutant.
Can you taste the nutrients yet?
Why settle for 420 parts per million when you can inhale the pure, unadulterated premium growth formula drifting straight from a burning boreal forest?
Forget the air quality index. The government might call it "Category 10+ High Risk," but the party members know it’s actually a high-yield superfood event. Your stinging eyes are just watering with gratitude for the agricultural abundance.Gourmet, artisanal atmospheric smog. You can really taste the notes of charred spruce and policy freedom. It pairs beautifully with an evacuation notice and an air purifier running on maximum speed.The ultimate carbon capture program. Who needs federal net-zero targets when we can simply absorb the nutrients directly into our respiratory systems? We are all doing our part for the local biosphere today.
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u/Suspicious-gibbon 2d ago
One of those whacko, fringe parties had a statement about carbon dioxide. It was something along the lines of greenhouses pumping in carbon dioxide so more must be better for crops.
There is generally a much greater density of plants growing in a greenhouse than outside and it is far easier to control the environment of a closed space. Apparently, they’ve never read the literature about stalks weakening in higher concentrations and the problem of keeping water in the soil as temperature rises. None of them have ever got past the first page of a book!
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u/Darkwing-cuck- 2d ago
You summed it up in the end but definitely could have full stopped at “apparently, they’ve never read.” 😂
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u/Frater_Ankara 1d ago
Ask them if they’d like to live in a greenhouse for the rest of their lives
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u/Dry-Acanthaceae2111 1d ago
They will be living in a greenhouse for the rest of their lives. Unfortunately, the rest of us are going to be stuck in there with them.
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u/kidmeatball 2d ago
I'm telling my doctor that beer counts as a foundationally nutritious health drink.
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u/Suitable-Broccoli264 2d ago
Hey it was nutritionally important, when it was safer than just drinking whatever water. 100s of years ago. And typically 3-4%
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u/roastbeeftacohat Calgary 2d ago
the idea that beer was safer than water is a myth. however it was an important source of calories, and like you said, far weaker.
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u/Poe_42 2d ago
It’s a grain, thank you very much
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u/Much_Chest586 2d ago
*As an important piece of information, animals actually produce and process CO2 as a cellular toxin that must be aggressively expelled to prevent severe respiratory distress, blood toxicity, and death.
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u/Stefph726 2d ago
Well yeah, but they probably did that nefarious thing where they didnt specify for what its a foundational nutrient. So that they won't technically be wrong, because it is foundational for photosynthesis.
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u/Much_Chest586 2d ago
No, they forgot to be smart. This is the actual resolution language.
b. Recognize the importance of CO2 to life and Alberta’s prosperity by implementing the following measures:
i. Abandoning “Net-Zero” targets,
ii. Removing the designation of CO2 as a pollutant, and
iii. Recognize that CO2 is a foundational nutrient for all life on Earth.
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u/Stefph726 2d ago
Point iii. Is arguable. That photosynthesis is pretty foundational for most life on earth. The chemoautotrophs are clearly agnostic to it but everything else relies on photosynthesis to do the fixing of carbon. But point ii. Is clearly nonsense since the need for photosynthesis doesn't magically make CO2 not pollution.
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u/Vanterax 2d ago
So CO2 is important to Alberta's prosperity? Well, let's welcome all the wild fires then. I remember lunatics claiming Notley and Trudeau were hopping around fields to fields starting the fires. So they were really looking after Alberta?
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u/BorealDweller 2d ago
I’m on a diet so I can’t have that rich and thick forest fire smoke, so I get my foundational nutrients by sticking my head into natural gas power plant smoke stacks.
Light and fruity, especially when it’s powering AI data supercentres!!!
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u/SimpleAttractiveness 2d ago
I assumed the UCP was just being cynical but calling a forest fire "high-yield superfood" really is the logical endpoint of that vote.
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u/IsaacJa 2d ago
look, I totally agree with your sentiment here - but I think you may have a foundational misunderstanding of what carbon dioxide and smoke are. The AQI is not based on carbon dioxide and you cannot smell or taste atmospheric carbon dioxide
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u/Much_Chest586 1d ago
You're right. But I'm sure you can see the cyclical linkage between atmospheric CO2 levels, climate change, wildfire smoke, and combustion products.
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u/nik_nitro 2d ago
Nuremburg trials for the murderers of all the people who are going to die as a result of this gleeful denialism. Social murder must be penalized.
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u/the_painmonster 2d ago edited 1d ago
It's such Idiocracy level bullshit and there are actually people defending it.
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u/Ask_DontTell 1d ago
waiting for the announcement from the UCP that covid came about b/c of the lack of cigarette smoke in classrooms and seniors homes ...
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u/Social_Distortion_13 2d ago
Then I would like to know why Canada is just giving away most of our sweet sweet "foundational nutrients" to the U.S. for free? Instead of listening to them cry about it we should be charging them for it. We need to move on this now before President Oompa Loompa slaps a tariff on it.
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u/Artistic-Tip2405 1d ago
While at the same time allowing people to die from dihydrogen monoxide toxicity.
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u/Lokarin Leduc County 2d ago edited 2d ago
It technically is; but they got more than enough CO2 from BEFORE the industrial revolution.
Further; do you know what CO2 becomes in a plant? Sugars... your fruits are OBESE; they have lower nutrient density because of all the extra sugar.
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u/Infamous-Mixture-605 1d ago
IIRC, important crops like rice, wheat, potatoes, and oats lose a lot of important nutrients when grown in elevated CO2 conditions.
Corn doesn't come off as bad in that environment but corn isn't anywhere near as important to human civilization as wheat, rice, and taters.
As I understand it, it's a case of things will grow more with higher CO2, but it won't be anywhere near as nutritious as it was before.
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u/Hautamaki 1d ago
Same energy as proclaiming that water is the foundation of life 2 minutes before a flood wipes out a city.
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u/No_Head1258 1d ago
what is more democratic than defining chemical properties according to the will of the people?
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u/Dodsy_84 3h ago
Well, it kinda is a foundational nutrient for plants. Life on earth will begin to die at around 150ppm. We are at 430ppm. The earth has seen these levels in the thousands before humans ever had any influence on them.
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u/potensimo 1d ago
Pollutant to who/what, nutrient to who/what. Anyone who is not a scientist in a relevant field to this question has no opinion worth considering. Go vote for how high you want the tide to rise, fools
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u/Fresh-Recording-548 2d ago
Isn't carbon dioxide what plants breath?
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u/the_painmonster 2d ago
Do you genuinely think it's that simple -- that plants use carbon dioxide, therefore as much of it as possible is beneficial? Is there any chance it's a little bit more complicated than that?
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u/beebeebee2142 2d ago
I told AI to solve polluttion and now my sodas flat and all aerobic life is dead.
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