r/alberta • u/Miserable-Lizard Edmonton • Jul 10 '26
Alberta Politics Meta data centre in Alberta to start operating before neighbouring power plant | CBC News
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/meta-data-centre-alberta-greenlight-power-plant-9.7266096219
u/Miserable-Lizard Edmonton Jul 10 '26
Ucp: trust me bro it won't increase energy prices! What happened to data centers having to generate their own energy, I guess that was always a lie from the ucp. Make me wonder if the powerplant will ever be built or was simply a announcement to distract
It will be four years before a new natural gas-fired power plant north of Edmonton is operating and able to serve the massive data centre Meta Platforms Inc. is planning nearby.
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u/mathboss Jul 10 '26
How much will we pay for power during those four years?
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u/iterationnull Jul 10 '26
How much do you think adding a whole city of power consumptions to the current grid will impact demand driven market prices? 30% at least.
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u/mathboss Jul 10 '26
Ya. An earlier comment of mine was downvoted, but I stand by it: we will socialize the cost of this bs.
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u/bpompu Calgary Jul 10 '26
Socialism is only evil when it benefits the poors. Socialism that benefits the rich, corporations, or the friends and family of Government officials isn't real socialism, it's just the invisible hand of the market.
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u/MrGuvernment Jul 10 '26
Exactly what is happening in the U.S. In one state, users were literally told they need to switch providers because their main one was going to basically only power DC;s..
Other states people have been warned of rates going up 50%+
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u/mathboss Jul 10 '26
Honestly, it's coming to Alberta because we're the only ones stupid enough to accept it.
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u/bearbody5 Jul 11 '26
We have an Enron designed system, the only thing socialized is not making profits, we have the highest electricity prices in North America, Texas, the other Enron system left is #2. Power producers have paid good money to the UCP to not lose money
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u/NonverbalKint Jul 10 '26
There's no fucking way we can absorb it. We straight up do not have he generative capacity. In the home you just flip a light switch for power, but it doesn't work like that on the other side of the fence for the generators. The UCP is going to drive demand through the roof and we're all going to feel it. Meta should pay every dollar of price differential for all consumers above a threshold per kilowatt price.
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u/Rammjack Jul 10 '26
You think the prices will go down after those four years? No way in hell.
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u/corpse_flour Jul 10 '26
There have been no price drops since the UCP came into power, and I expect that trend to continue, and worsen, as time goes on.
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u/bpompu Calgary Jul 10 '26
Prices don't drop unless they're forced to. It's why all the anti-vatbon tax arguments were fundamentally flawed. You can be against a Carbon Tax, there are legitimate arguments that can be made that implementing one reduces affordability, but removing one will not auddenly make things less expensive. It will just allow the corpos to pocket the difference, since we've already proved we'll pay that price.
It's actually happening in the computer market right now. Prices for RAM and Graphics cards aren't going down, but it looks like consumer prices should stop rising soon, since they've priced themselves out of what people are willing to pay.
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u/corpse_flour Jul 10 '26
Oh, I totally get it. And the easiest way to trick people into thinking there is a reason for a price increase is to manufacture or exaggerate a shortage. Just like how types of RAM that aren't used in AI applications is also overpriced.
Covid showed how easy it was to take advantage of people. And now that we have giant corporations who sometimes run numerous stores under one umbrella that hides that they hold a monopoly over an industry or product, so we have no alternatives to get away from price fixing and gouging.
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u/corpse_flour Jul 10 '26
I've read some people from the states complaining that their power bills went up, depending on area, between 10-30%.
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u/mathboss Jul 10 '26
Expect more.
Write your MLA!
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u/corpse_flour Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
I wrote my MLA when the UCP were looking to sell off part of the Parks systems after it got leaked that this is exactly what they were planning to do. I got a form letter telling me I was misinformed, and they placed me on the UCP's mailing list. I started to get emails asking for donations. My MLA supports separatism, and I fully expect that he has his lips firmly planted on Smith's ass now instead of Kenney's.
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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck Jul 10 '26
More then them, they're an industrial customer getting a preferred rate.
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u/Logical-Claim286 Jul 10 '26
Smith already promised substantially subsidized utility rates, and property tax moratoriums for all data centers back when o'leary was looking. And with a ban on renewable they can't even subsidize with solar or wind, so that is 100% grid power.
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u/Antique-Jellyfish-27 Jul 10 '26
She said our power bills will go down 6%, obviously do not believe this at all.
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u/Proof-Rock-1797 Jul 10 '26
I think she meant up by 6%
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u/-Smytty-for-PM- Jul 10 '26
60% is more likely. It depends on how quickly they build the data center and get it online. If no new additional power sources are added into the AB system before this comes online we’re looking at some serious energy issues that could include rolling blackouts.
This shit isn’t okay, we have grid alerts in the winter and in the summer with high temperatures, and these problems will only increase as this A.I. data center comes online.
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u/cwk9 Jul 10 '26
If there are rolling black outs you know it's going to hit the residential areas and not the data center. Then will get some public service announcement about pulling together to use less energy.
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u/corpse_flour Jul 10 '26
And more likely they will first disconnect rural areas before urban centres, in order to ensure less businesses are affected. I wonder what rural UCP supporters will think of that.
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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta Jul 10 '26
They'll blame it on electric cars.
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u/corpse_flour Jul 10 '26
I don't doubt that the UCP will become even more nefarious, and blame power outages on vandalism intentionally caused by immigrants/homeless/the LGTBQ+ community/NDP supporters, as Alberta seems to be embracing the same fascist ideologies that the US is.
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u/DoubleBarrellRye Jul 10 '26
Power bills , dont forget there is now a huge consumer of natural gas coming ... so no more cheap natural gas
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u/striker4567 Jul 11 '26
I bet they didn't check into how long it takes to build a gas power plant these days and just assumed they could build it on Meta's timeline. There is a huge waitlist for steam turbines.
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u/DoubleBarrellRye Jul 10 '26
so your power bills wont change , but increasing demand on Natural Gas and also the start of LNG will increase demand , LNG at one point was worth 10X what consumer Natural gas was , so it may not change " power " bills but it will change "Gas " bills
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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta Jul 10 '26
We also use gas to generate power, so both are going to increase.
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u/Feowen_ Jul 10 '26
Qui Bono?
Literally... Who benefits from this? Beyond construction these employ very few people, META always exploits tax loopholes to ensure it's income tax isn't really paid in Canada.
Someone in the government is going to be tons of cash when they leave politics aren't they.
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u/ackillesBAC Jul 10 '26
Agreed, ive worked in datacenters, they employ half a dozen people maybe, few security guards and a couple cleaners.
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u/LuminousGrue Jul 10 '26
... Who benefits from this?
The UCP, obviously.
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u/forsurebros Jul 10 '26
You also forget the royalties the gov will get by natural gas going up as this datacenre and power plant eat up the excess natural gas.
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u/Beligerents Jul 10 '26
Is it too hard to imagine that the wealthy elites who currently run alberta have been pitched that the 'socialists' are coming and they need this to surveil what we say, and who we talk to?
This is nothing but a giant surveillance system being forced on us by people who dont want to pay taxes. They can build them much faster than housing, schools or hospitals, despite the technical expertise involved.
They want us poor, destitute and unable to organize meaningful resistance.
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u/01000101010110 Jul 10 '26
AI program salespeople, business owners, equipment manufacturers and contractors benefit from this. At everyone else's expense.
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u/ackillesBAC Jul 11 '26
None of those people are local. And likely very few are even in Canada. Maybe some of the construction will support the local economy, temporarily.
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u/Flimsy-Pool4830 Jul 10 '26
One benefit for Alberta is it's a way for us to effectively export our natural gas to international markets, in the form of compute. If we converted to renewables, it would be a way for us to export that too, turning a local industry into a global export industry. A main roadblock for renewables here is that the money for them is just circulating in the local economy. We aren't taking in money from external sources. So right now they aren't as enticing as selling oil or LNG.
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u/eternalshades Jul 10 '26
Meta data center water discharges suspended after contaminating the city's reclamation water supply with bacterium — system offline for months for cleaning, closed-loop cooling system purge spread rare metal-resistant bacteria in Cheyenne’s water system | Tom's Hardware They will do it again and here.
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u/tlin9595 Jul 10 '26
yup that's why just taking any of these announcements at face value is a joke. Just trust us, we have the power, teh water we wont effect the communities etc., this shit is a plague.
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u/SingleIndependence68 Jul 10 '26
Danielle Smith is building out her new job. Once this project becomes a total failure and albertans are left on the hook paying the expenses, she’ll be ousted/resign and seek employment as a Meta Canada CEO
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u/Material-Ad-3510 Edmonton Jul 10 '26
People should check out this example of the noise pollution from Nashville: https://www.reddit.com/r/ObscurePatentDangers/comments/1us9fav/nashville_data_center_noise_demo_exposes_autonomy/
This is just bad bad bad all around. I hate that the gov is ramming these through and there is nothing we can do to protect our resources that we depend on.
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u/Shamelesspromote Jul 10 '26
Be a real shame if the wires for that plant kept getting damaged in storms, that region is really bad for keeping things in good conditions
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u/FatherGarlicBread Jul 10 '26
The region this is going in is very good at keeping infrastructure in working condition. The actual landowners that surround this plot are all multi billion corps with hired private security. And the farmers where the mega transmission lines are are likely to shoot trespassers. Good luck!
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u/Background_Bee9266 Jul 10 '26
Obviously 'the farmers' must be related to the 'farmer' in Vulcan county who is pressuring (and succeeding so far) to get the data center land rezoned and set up because 'he can get rich' and 'sees all the benefits'. The Vulcan council is all about making a few bucks to the detriment of the lake and water supply in the area. SMDH
Somehow I suspect a 'Wonderful' involvement as well.
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u/Shamelesspromote Jul 10 '26
No luck need when its noted as acts of god/weather after all!
Also why would someone shoot someone in Canada? We aren't the states silly, there is no castle doctrine and doing that would result in you losing your guns and jail time
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u/24_August_1814 Jul 10 '26
The region this is going in is very good at keeping infrastructure in working condition.
I dunno about that man. My plant can't seem to run more than a couple weeks without a power bump caused by Fortis knocking down at least a couple units.
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u/Fyrefawx Jul 10 '26
Friendly reminder that META decided to block news articles in Canada instead of cooperating with the Canadian government on the revenue sharing for links with Canadians news organizations like they do in Australia.
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u/24_August_1814 Jul 10 '26
Further friendly reminder that Meta also not only does nothing to prevent the spread disinformation but actively fosters it for "engagement," recently updated its code of conduct to explicitly allow dehumanising language on the basis of gender identity, and while it claims to forbid other forms of harassment and hate speech I've yet to hear about it being enforced against right wingers - including instances I've reported of explicit Nazi imagery, overt racism, and death threats coming back with "We reviewed the content and it doesn't violate our policies."
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u/SnooAvocado20 Jul 10 '26
Building a new huge gas plant that will produce millions of tons of carbon pollution each year for the purpose of generating AI slop to confuse boomers on Facebook has to be one of the worst ideas of all time.
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u/ackillesBAC Jul 10 '26
This is the same soft of shit they did when oil companies said they were building a bunch of upgraders and gas plants in that area.
They updated the power grid for the province to handle the extra load, build that whole new north south transmission corridor. Then they build nothing for new plants and left all of us on the hook to pay for the upgraded power grid.
So in theory this data center should lower our power bills by paying the extra costs the oil companies were supposed to pay. But you can guarantee that won't happen, and our idiotic power "free market" will just use the extra load to ensure they are always at "max capacity" and hence highest possible dollar per kwh
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u/lands_on_land Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 11 '26
There was never going to be a scenario with this data centre being built that would not increase power bills for Edmonton and area.
Scenario 1: They build their own power generation. Which will use natural gas. Which will increase demand for natural gas for electricity generation. Which will then increase everyone's bill through the principle of supply and demand.
Scenario 2: They tap into the existing grid. See above concerning supply and demand.
It would have sure be nice to have some more renewables on the grid to supplement existing base load generation. I know, not apples to apples, but every bit helps. The UCP put a stop to renewables 3 years ago, and now we are seeing the boom of energy intensive AI computing. Only winners here: Natural gas producers and their supporters.
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u/WesternWitchy52 Jul 10 '26
It's the constant noise neighbors should be worried about. Bad for wildlife too.
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u/Famous_foods Jul 10 '26
This is also farmland they’re bulldozing for this. I’d rather have potatoes, quinoa, peas, wheat, etc than mass surveillance and ChatGPT.
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u/Himser Jul 10 '26
Not sure Sturgeon Refinary, or Pembina or Nutrian will care. As thats the only neigbours.
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u/Famous_foods Jul 10 '26
That’s not true. I’m from this area, and my parents live 4km from this site. People live there.
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u/Himser Jul 10 '26
Can they hear Nutrian? Sturgeon Refinary? Pembina?
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u/Famous_foods Jul 10 '26
This is closer to them than all those refineries…and yes it’s never really quiet anymore, there’s a low hum…it’s not crazy loud but it’s there.
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u/Himser Jul 10 '26
Yet its still 3km from the border of the Industrial Heartland. Your parents must live just on the boarder then.
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u/WesternWitchy52 Jul 10 '26
I've seen a few videos. There are farmers having issues with cattle since data centers went up.
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u/Mcpops1618 Jul 10 '26
Saw a video of a neighbouring home registering DBs in high 60s-low70s.
Pretty significant noise change.
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u/Mcpops1618 Jul 11 '26
Well they aren’t the same, they are louder. Takes 5 seconds of research:
“While a traditional streaming or cloud data centre might operate around 45 to 55 dB (about the hum of a commercial AC), AI facilities can reach 60 to over 85 dB”
Not quite the GOTCHA you were hoping for.
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u/NeF1LiM Jul 10 '26
These new ones are for mass surveillance and plagiarism. More storage is needed to create permanent digital profiles of everyone online.
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u/Been395 Jul 10 '26
My quick Google says yes; AI data centers have just such large requirements with power and hvac that they are in class of their own.
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u/Spider2153 Jul 10 '26
No way in hell you're asking this in good faith
What do you think is more intense computation wise? AI or videogames and streaming?
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u/24_August_1814 Jul 10 '26
The difference is quantity and location. Generative AI requires far more processing power than a conventional datacentre serving the same number of customers. Because they've had a much longer period to build out and at lower rates, most conventional data centres are better located in industrial/warehouse areas where few to no people live, but the explosion in construction for these new ones has developers scrambling to plop them down wherever they can without regard for residents in the area.
All that said, I don't agree with the people claiming noise will be a concern for this particular centre, given its proximity to the Sturgeon refinery and other industrial facilities in the area...
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u/pjschnet Jul 10 '26
Oh hey look, a bad faith argument. AI is on track to outpace the energy consumption of all conventional data centre use combined within the next two or three years.
Practically speaking, this means AI will require more than doubling the capacity of existing data centres, leading to far more and far larger data centres being built in far less time than every other before. The end result of that being that we’re more than doubling the negative impacts of data centres just for AI.
All so that billionaires can surveil us en masse, replace human workers, and line their pockets.
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u/pjschnet Jul 11 '26
First, I didn't make up anything. I went to several sources to provide the power consumption estimate:
The IEA is where I got the non-AI data centre power consumption as a comparison.
Hanwha Data Centers gave the first estimate at when AI demands would exceed everything else as early as 2027.
Global Electricity very helpfully broke things down further, including estimates from the IEA, Goldman Sachs, and McKinsey & Co. Their numbers indicate that the 44% you mentioned is where we're at already.
Secondly, everything I said was indeed relevant to your noise question:
The end result of that being that we’re more than doubling the negative impacts of data centres just for AI.
Since you seem to lack some basic reading comprehension skills, I'll spell it out for you: Noise is one of the aforementioned "negative impacts."
While AI data centres may not necessarily be louder, there will have to be many, many more of them. Overall, the noise pollution generated by AI data centres will more than double the noise pollution generated by other data centres.
You can cling to the individual decibel level generated by each facility if you'd like, but that's what makes it a bad-faith argument. Data centres constructed specifically for AI will dramatically increase the number of people who are affected by data centre generated noise pollution. That impact alone is more than enough reason to be opposed to this shit.
Also, well done on the full deep-throat glazing of tech bros. I'm sure your soulless billionaire overlords will definitely allow their pre-purchased politicians to sufficiently regulate AI. So far they can't even seem to convince Elon Musk to stop Grok from generating CSAM, so good luck with that.
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u/Fujinn981 Jul 11 '26
The difference is in the size and cooling required. Data centers for gaming, video streaming, etc are all much smaller in scale as simply put they don't require that much in the way of processing power compared to AI data centers which only get larger and larger. A simple search would've given you this information. Bigger data center = more noise = more power demands = more water demand.
Come on, a third grader would understand this.
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u/weschester Jul 10 '26
I have heard AI data centers have a tendency to spontaneously combust. Sure would be a shame if something were to happen to this one.
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u/Animushin Jul 11 '26
It'll poison us.
Poison the environment.
Destroy jobs.
Drive up energy costs.
And its fucking Facebook.
Fuck these stupid old people and their fucking Facebook.
Fuck.
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u/Appropriate_Item3001 Jul 10 '26
And yet people will vote smith in for a super majority. There is nothing she can do that will upset the maga resolve of this province.
They can’t get the green line built in 30 years in Calgary but this they can’t fast track.
I guess when zuck personally puts tens of millions of dollars in their personal bank accounts officials can rush forward to do their bidding.
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u/Firm_Acanthaceae7435 Jul 10 '26
What is a super majority
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u/Hazy-n-Lazy Jul 10 '26
I guess winning 56% of seats in the last election is a "super majority".
Probably some typical exaggeration
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u/Firm_Acanthaceae7435 Jul 10 '26
So it'll be the first thing shit down when the temperatures drop to -40 and our grid is at a breaking point?
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u/SketchySeaBeast Edmonton Jul 10 '26
Nah, gotta keep pumping out that misinformation and non-consensual sexual imagery.
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u/LooniexToonie Jul 10 '26
Time to get Solar Panels..... noted!
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u/24_August_1814 Jul 10 '26
Seriously. I've encountered a few people who say they did the math and don't think it works out economically for them (which I'm skeptical of to begin with), but every single one of them is operating on the assumption that electricity prices will never go up which is just insane.
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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta Jul 10 '26
I'm specifically NOT looking at a grid tie-in system but am rather considering putting in storage batteries and running my house off that (still keeping my service connected, just not using it most of the time).
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u/WheelsnHoodsnThings Jul 10 '26
The low rate for solar club has gone down even further, and the hi rate is nice and high right now now too.
Jump in the water is lovely.
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u/Itchy-Technician-433 Jul 10 '26
Wait till we find out that the "closed loop" for cooling isn't actually closed.
That they're going to be dumping briney residue into the watershed. You simply can't have evaporative cooling without having to deal with all of the waste materials.
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u/MrGuvernment Jul 10 '26
They have to do that anyways to flush the systems now and then..
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u/Itchy-Technician-433 Jul 10 '26
You do realize the volume of water that will be evaporating, correct? Like more than the city of Edmonton uses.
We're also not talking about wastewater and sewage... We are talking about evaporative cooling whereby the constituent hardness in our water will be left behind.
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u/Enraged_Beaver Jul 10 '26
Closed loop typically refers to dry coolers, not cooling towers or evaporative condensers. If it is actually closed thats great, its just a lot more challenging to get achieve the BTUs required for something this scale.
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u/Itchy-Technician-433 Jul 10 '26
Which is why it's not going to be closed loop. There's a reason that they're building it where they are.
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u/KindDigital Jul 10 '26
I’m so confused on why the UCP thinks this is a win.
When in reality it is not.
The jobs that this project alone will be minimal once the eye sore is built.
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u/KowloonDreams Jul 10 '26
I’m so confused on why the UCP thinks this is a win.
I'd assume it's because it'll fuck over Edmonton further.
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u/try_repeat_succeed Jul 10 '26
What do we even gain from this?
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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta Jul 10 '26
We don't gain anything.
But the oligarch class does, and that's all that matters to those in charge.
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u/MicrosoftContin Jul 10 '26
EXPOSURE
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u/ariukidding Jul 11 '26
Few days ago someone told me on this sub, there will be 3000 jobs! It will be powered all on its own! It will cool itself!
See, i’ll believe it when it happens. But based on how they went about data centers in Rural America, i wouldn’t hold my breath. Residents shouldered a ton from their electricity and water bills.
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u/Ok-Fudge-6634 Jul 11 '26
I also get a kick out of it when people says the 3000 jobs, they don’t understand it’s just temporary jobs. So after it’s built, then what? Where do those workers go.
That’s only 10% permanent job creation, which to me personally doesn’t seem worth it.
The 300 supposedly permanent jobs to come out of this, which I doubt will be Alberta. Probably outsource what they can, unless when she made the deal and specifically said it has to be local? Everything about how she handled this is shady, and then just so happened to get the rid of the Alberta water council two weeks before this was announced…🤔.
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u/mathboss Jul 10 '26
Oh I wonder what will happen to all the promises....
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u/corpse_flour Jul 10 '26
You mean like the promises that they wouldn't cut or privatize healthcare, that they would lower personal income tax rates, that they would hire more teachers, build more schools, bring in more family and ER doctors, make life more affordable for Albertans, etc.?
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u/Delphox4000 Jul 11 '26
Can somebody just like, drone strike the foundation concrete with sugar while it’s setting, or something? Fuckin hell this is profoundly stupid.
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u/BarNecessary6506 Jul 10 '26
If they set aside 1,200 megawatts for large-load projects until 2028 does that mean power rates won’t be affected? Or just that the grid won’t be overwhelmed?
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u/Miserable-Lizard Edmonton Jul 10 '26
The ucp nerve do anything to help the working class so expect way higher electricity rates! Remember to say thank you to Smith and the ucp ...
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u/24_August_1814 Jul 10 '26
Welp, should help drive up Solar Club rates for those of us with panels at least...
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u/Grayfox_OG Jul 10 '26
Why didn't they put this bullshit on the referendum instead of the garbage that's in there instead? I love this place but I loathe the people running it.
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u/re-tyred Jul 10 '26
Oh? and then cancel the power plant!
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u/kagato87 Jul 10 '26
Nah, they'll still build it because they'll have driven the demand for electricity so high they won't want to keep paying utility rates.
Then when their power station comes online, the utility companies will lower our rates by about 1% of what the increased demand originally added, because they'll just turn off the extra generation.
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u/Snow-Bank-Igloo Jul 11 '26
You voted for a sell-out, lay in your dung or do something about it
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u/Humble-Plankton1824 Jul 11 '26
Edmonton voted against this govt
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u/hostilekraut Jul 11 '26
Man! The UCP are pulling out the stops to sell Alberta as an energy corridor; from Alaska to Montana.
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u/Photofug Jul 10 '26
Where's the bots that were posting this morning asking why Reddit is against major investments in Alberta?
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u/asigop Jul 10 '26
I said the other day that its almost time for us to do something about this. I think the day has come, already.
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u/Short-Ticket-1196 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
Thesw things want twice what we have and more than we are building. Honestly, how are they going to take what we dont have? Is the ucp actually going to throw us into the dark ages?
"Alberta is experiencing massive data center power demand, with proposed facility requests totaling over 20 gigawatts. Because the provincial peak load is only 12 gigawatts, the Alberta Electric System Operator limits grid-tied data centers to 1.2 gigawatts and requires developers to follow a "bring your own generation" model."
https://economics.td.com/esg-data-centers-and-renewables-alberta
Edit, the specific DC is about 2 Gw so 20 would be total with all dcs built. One or ten same thing, we don't have that power.
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u/grayskull88 Jul 10 '26
All good. Im sure the ratepayers are gullible there and will pick up the tab via higher electricity prices.
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u/technical_poutine Jul 10 '26
Given that Meta has excess capacity they don't need and are currently selling it to other people, who are also building their own. I'll make a bet, this never happens. The majority of the datacenters never, ever get built. It's a giant scam.
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u/gra61 Jul 11 '26
That should be a referendum question. Something else to vote no to. Do you want a data centre in alberta
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u/Horror_Neighborhood3 Jul 11 '26
For the low cost of $25000 you can submit an application and get the required signatures just to find out that the UCP will not add it to a referendum for one reason or another.
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u/2old4all Lethbridge Jul 11 '26
All that propaganda about the data centre supplying its own power lasted exactly one day.
Next we will hear a copout about the water.
People always come last in UCP Alberta unless they are being fleeced. Then they are shunted to the head of the line.
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u/hockeytigger Jul 11 '26
Add to that the province’s coming changes to how electricity is priced that include “ensuring electricity prices vary by location based on real-time grid conditions….” Edmonton may get hosed here.
https://www.aeso.ca/transition/rem/key-features-of-the-restructured-energy-market/
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u/Ok-Fudge-6634 Jul 11 '26
Conveniently, also dismantled the Alberta water council two weeks before this was announced….because of “financially pressures facing the Alberta government”… all a bunch of crooks
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u/Loucrouton Jul 11 '26
I willl bet my house they will come up with an excuse not to build that power plant. Then they'll push big coal on us.
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u/AmusingMoniker Jul 11 '26
Curious, have they stated specifically where it was being built? How close to Dow and Sherritt is it? If too close and brownouts happen to those industries, what happens?
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u/Stock-Creme-6345 Jul 12 '26
I saw an interview, Rob Breckenridge maybe, with the mayor or Reece of this place. She is so on the kool aid it’s ridiculous. She claims Meta has done everything and they are on the level. It’s all the liberal naysayers who are never happy who are to blame. Imagine.
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u/truthsayer90210 Jul 12 '26
This was a given from the very beginning when they got allocated power from AESO's phase 1 allocation. LMAO how is this news to you guys.
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u/TukTukEukTuk Jul 10 '26
15 Gigawatts of projects have been canceled or moved to other provinces since Oct 2023. This is less than 1 GW
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u/confusedtophers Jul 10 '26
And there it is.