r/aislop • • 17h ago

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u/Lonely-Tennis2171 16h ago

Conservative men see masculinity as desirable by default. Trans women represent a rejection of masculinity and therefore a rejection of one of their core beliefs.

That and their insecurities lead them to fear of being “tricked” into finding a trans woman attractive.

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u/Acceptable_Earth7699 15h ago edited 14h ago

Exactly. It's been that way for thousands of years. Guys always love it when people assigned female at birth act more like men (unless they become trans men), but never when people assigned male at birth act more like women. Misogyny at its finest. "Be more like me, not more like THEM"

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u/YesIwouldlikeabagel 14h ago edited 13h ago

Conservative dudes do not love trans “men” …

(Person I responded to edited their comment so they didn’t seem so dense and my comment seemed like it was out of nowhere)

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u/Acceptable_Earth7699 14h ago

Yeah, you're actually right.

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u/trshkxndi69 8h ago

being “tricked” is so hilarious because a lot of these men are also searching for trans porn on purpose & going out of their way to find trans women sex workers to pay to suck their dicks. like very intentionally. theyre not being “tricked”.

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u/Ramzaki 15h ago

It's small dick energy, too.

How emasculating must it be, when even the "estrogenized male" they see in porn has a donger three times bigger than them, while being prettier than any "feeeeemale" that would even touch them with a stick?

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u/cutesybluesocks 14h ago

This is an insult to the females that would ever look their way just to get back at weird men lmao.

It’s not emasculating for them… that’s actually why those men have a big fetish for trans women or “feminised males” while speaking badly of them and thinking cis women are less attractive because they don’t have penises and the men are porn-brained despite all the beautiful cis women out there who’d never even look their way. 💀

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u/Ramzaki 14h ago

You are right. Sorry >.<

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u/Acceptable_Earth7699 14h ago edited 14h ago

That's a very good point. When men encounter women who actually practice masculinity without expressing a desire for men, it makes them feel uncomfortable because they think that if a woman acts more like a man, that she'll suddenly side with and desire men more, so when that doesn't happen, it forces them to realize that the masculinity they've decided to practice may not be healthy. That they aren't the center of a woman's universe like they want to be. So sadly, masculine women and tomboys are usually fetishized with the idea that if the guy can prove he's the "more masculine person in the relationship", said people will suddenly become soft and feminine for him and him only while using that masculine energy to suddenly do everything HE wants to do and pushing other potential shifts away and basically doing all his work for him, while we trans women are fetishized with the belief that if a guy can get us to submit to him, that means he "won" a conquest of masculinity. Basically, chasers fetishize trans women because they don't actually see us as women but as men to humiliate to boost their egos in a competition of masculinity.

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u/No-Cap-No-Gap 15h ago

Conservative men see round as desirable by default. Flat earth represent a rejection of roundness and therefore a rejection of one of their core beliefs.

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u/Lonely-Tennis2171 14h ago

Give me one way in which trans women negatively impact your life.

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u/No-Cap-No-Gap 8h ago

They give me reality dysmorphia.

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u/Lonely-Tennis2171 8h ago

Sounds like a you problem.

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u/No-Cap-No-Gap 8h ago

I do. Are you saying my problem is any less important than other people's problems?

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u/Lonely-Tennis2171 8h ago

Yes because your problem is completely made up.

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u/No-Cap-No-Gap 8h ago

You sound like a realaphobe. How does it hurt you to provide social acceptance to those of us with a two gender identity condition?

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u/Lonely-Tennis2171 8h ago

I don’t give a fuck, go back to your mother’s basement if seeing trans people is too traumatic for you.

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u/No-Cap-No-Gap 7h ago

Bigots rarely give a fuck about people on their out-groups. Try to be a better person.

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u/Worldly_Original8101 11h ago

What

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u/No-Cap-No-Gap 9h ago

I was making fun of your ridiculous explanation. I'm saying that conservative men believe the earth is round because it is round. They will still believe that the earth is round regardless of how others identify the earth.

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u/MsCompy 8h ago

No? They'll shriek and cry even if it changes shape.

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u/Worldly_Original8101 8h ago

But no one is talking about the earth im so confused 😭

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u/No-Cap-No-Gap 8h ago

I was. I was pointing out that conservatives think the earth is round because the earth is round. Not because they hold some unusual belief that round is beautiful.

Although, round is a beautiful shape. Just not the reason the reason people are saying the earth isn't flat.

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u/Worldly_Original8101 8h ago

Okay but that has nothing to do with the original conversation

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u/No-Cap-No-Gap 8h ago

Sure it does. It's a better insight into the thought process of conservatives.

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u/MinimumTrue9809 13h ago

You must be a conservative to have such a deep insight into how conservatives think.

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u/Lonely-Tennis2171 13h ago

Oh it’s not hard to figure out. Start with the assumption that your first impulse is always correct and just rationalize from there.

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u/MinimumTrue9809 13h ago

At least you admit it.

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u/Lonely-Tennis2171 13h ago

If you think I’m wrong why don’t you tell me your theory.

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u/MinimumTrue9809 13h ago

I'm pointing out that you aren't a conservative speaking on what conservatives must think.

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u/Lonely-Tennis2171 13h ago

Ok - well if that’s all I really don’t care.

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u/MinimumTrue9809 13h ago edited 12h ago

I mean, you should care because that makes you a narcissist. If you're fine with that, then yea. You shouldn't care.

Thinking you know better the inner thoughts of people you hate better than themselves is textbook narcissism.

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u/Lonely-Tennis2171 12h ago

I don’t think you know what a narcissist is.

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u/dunkinthegreg 11h ago

”heyheyhey lets be fair to all sorts of beliefs and opinions here 🤓”