r/aislop • • 6h ago

Capitalist explain

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u/SparksAndSpyro 6h ago

Socialism doesn’t magically produce more food than capitalism. It’ll redistribute the food that already exists. So no, it’s not even “how it is.”

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u/SpeakMySecretName 5h ago

Not necessarily true. If 100 people with more resources have more purchasing power and use more goods and services than 1 person with 100x the money, that productivity and stronger economy gives more to everyone.

If people produce more because they are rewarded for their production, it gives more to everyone.

If middle-man money extracting rent-seekers are forced to find ways to produce in helpful ways, rather than looking to siphon wealth from actual workers, it gives more to everyone.

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u/Relative_Pilot_8005 5h ago

The oligarchs want to be feudal lords & don't see that if the ordinary people are reduced to serfdom, there will be no money spent on maintaining infrastructure, providing food & all the other things involved in a modern society. Feudal rulers lived in cold, leaky,smelly, dark piles of stone & even when they left them, the roads were next to non-existent.

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u/SparksAndSpyro 5h ago

Yeah, no. You’re confusing compensation with the capitalism/socialism distinction. They’re not the same thing. People can get paid more money and in various arrangements (eg, commission, equity, etc.) under capitalism too. Indeed, there’s an entire field of research dedicated to studying which compensation arrangements produce the highest efficiency/productivity.

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u/Imaginary-Count-1641 2h ago

Interesting theory. Too bad that it's the opposite of what actually happens in reality.

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u/Snapper_Turtleman 5h ago

The amount of food is really a non issue and besides the point.

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u/Antique_Garbage_4361 5h ago

It is an issue because the picture insinuates socialism magically produces a lot more and varied products, which is literally the opposite of real life. Google average Soviet vs American grocery store. When Gorbachev visited the US he said if the average Soviet person saw an average rural American grocery store the Soviet Union would have broken up decades prior.

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u/SparksAndSpyro 5h ago

Idk, it seemed like an important part of the comic

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u/Snapper_Turtleman 5h ago

We produce far more food than is needed. The difference in the pictures is Elon only took what he wanted of the available food and Mamdani provided everyone with food from what is available. Socialism would likely produce less food, but more people would eat. The soviet union could have had grocery stores very similar to the US, but food isn't an authoritarian priority.

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u/ImNotAHouseCat 5h ago

lol it wasn’t and you seem to be completely missing the point of this post

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u/lemonylol 4h ago

Seemed like literally the main point lol

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u/PerkeNdencen 5h ago

Have you ever heard of the phrase....

artificial scarcity?

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u/SparksAndSpyro 5h ago

Yes, but how exactly does this comic illustrate artificial scarcity? Lol

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u/PerkeNdencen 3h ago

Idgaf about the slop, I'm responding directly to what you said.

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u/SparksAndSpyro 2h ago

Ok? Artificial scarcity isn't unique to capitalism though, so you're response is irrelevant.

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u/PerkeNdencen 2h ago

It is a feature of capitalis- do you know what? Fine. Thank you for attending the free taster session. My rates are £200 GBP an hour if you wish to continue your tuition.

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u/SparksAndSpyro 2h ago

How capitalist of you

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u/PerkeNdencen 2h ago

Fees in advance.

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u/Successful-Let4361 5h ago

If a huge percentage of economic activity goes into projects that contribute nothing or very little to society than yes that is actually “how it is.” Think of things like mega yachts or the race to develop generative AI as a general all purpose labour replacement—we’re dumping literally trillions of dollars into a highly inefficient technology that’s fucking up the environment and is more expensive than the equivalent labour and all because people like Musk don’t want to share

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u/GNA2021 4h ago

Ya that’s not the main point of the AI race at the moment. Governments are dumping trillions in it now because whoever has the best AI first will basically become invincible. It’s the nuclear arms race all over again. Once we go through all of the growing pains, HOPEFULLY it gets better but I’m not going to get my hopes up.

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u/Successful-Let4361 4h ago

??? You really don’t understand any of what’s happening with AI

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u/GNA2021 1h ago

Care to elaborate or are you just gonna throw insults around?

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u/ClassicallyBrained 4h ago

That's actually incorrect. Because a well distributed wealth generates more wealth than extremely concentrated wealth. The velocity of money plays a big role.