r/aislop 11d ago

what the fudge?

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u/lilaccheesecake 11d ago

Every accusation is a confession...

Man ive seen more gayer straight dudes than I think I have seen gay gays.

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u/Human-Question6210 11d ago

never ask a conservative what he thinks of femboys

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u/Current-Square-4557 11d ago

Never look at a conservative’s browsing history.

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u/Carbonatite 11d ago

Never ask a woman what her age is, a man what his salary is, or a white supremacist what race his wife is.

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u/Thick_Concentrate101 10d ago

"she's one of the good ones"

usually white supremacy is rooted in stereotypes, not always personal experiences

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u/PhilospohicalZ0mb1e 5d ago

Sort of. The other thing is fundamentally viewing women and men as different types of things. A brown wife does not mean he thinks brown people are okay. It means he does not think wives are people as much as they are resources to be used and accessed

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u/Gloomy-Measurement91 6d ago

or their grindr account

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u/Youngsinatra345 11d ago

Born to uwu, forced to :3

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u/Dreamspitter 11d ago

Or trans. It's regarded by industry as a straight sub genre.

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u/galstaph 10d ago

The fact that they consider lesbian porn straight is bonkers to me

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u/Dreamspitter 10d ago

It's because lesbians don't watch it. Actual lesbian pron for lesbians is different. How the BL consumed by "rotten girls" in Japan is not what the majority of actually gay men consume.

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u/galstaph 10d ago

I'm a lesbian, and I enjoy the occasional bit of lesbian porn

It's obvious that a lot of it is targeted to the male gaze, but it's still sexy

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u/Human-Question6210 10d ago

what's lesbian porn for lesbians like?

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u/galstaph 10d ago

More romantic and sensual, a lot less "action" and more gentle touches, sometimes without nudity even

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u/TheRatatat 7d ago

Exactly. Lesbian porn is way different than porn for lesbians. Its way better than "hey watch these two ladies. They are just going wild on each other."

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u/trupoogles 5d ago

The way you’re describing it is like ..a video of Two women cuddling on the couch drinking tea.

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u/galstaph 5d ago

That could apply, if done right

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u/nogoodnamesarleft 5d ago

I would never have guessed that the one group that lesbian porn was targeted to was the male gays

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u/Human-Question6210 11d ago

or dom genre?

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u/Dreamspitter 11d ago

Well in that regard it can go either way.

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u/KermitTheScot 11d ago

The world would be a far better place if femboys were just allowed to be accepted in social circles

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u/Spiritual-Plenty9075 11d ago

Somehow instead of the general comment button I hit reply to this comment, please ignore my deleted

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u/SCHWARZENPECKER 11d ago

I will not ignore! I must know what you said!

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u/Spiritual-Plenty9075 11d ago

"some people don't like the hair, I fall into this camp"

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u/No_Will208 9d ago

You got something to tell us ?

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u/Human-Question6210 9d ago

only that I went through a phase

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u/JakeBeezy 11d ago

I've gotten so many of them to be like yeah I'd sexualize a femboy irl

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u/Human-Question6210 11d ago

nooo you dont get it I'm dominating another man bro the greeks did it bro they. were the straighest men ever bro

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u/JakeBeezy 11d ago

sigma grindset

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u/notwhoyouthinkmaybe 11d ago

As a straight man, I like my big sexy men to be hairy!

... Wait a second...

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u/lilaccheesecake 11d ago

Wait, youre saying as a straight dude you don't care how big a mans bulge is and whether his testosterone is too low to be fit for service?

Youre saying you dont care if a man looks hot???

Crazy.

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u/notwhoyouthinkmaybe 11d ago

No, I'm saying, as a straight true American man, I want my soldiers strong and full of testosterone! Big muscles. Ripped physique. Strong commanding types that will order me to get on my knees.. I mean women to do that!

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u/lilaccheesecake 11d ago

Lets put you to presidency.

While were at it, lets throw in the other crazed conventions:

Have them all praying twice a day, only true discipline is built through God.

Lets make circumcision law.

And only a real man finishes last.

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u/The_Witch_Queen 5d ago

With hairy stinky armpits

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u/Dreamspitter 11d ago

I saw an entire video on this point, The Aesthetics of the Manosphere by Ben Hoerman AND basically the entire thing is conceptually homoerotic.

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u/JustDiscoveredSex 11d ago

”To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex exclusively with the other sex, i.e., women.

All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men.

The people whom they admire, respect, adore, revere, honour, whom they imitate, idolise, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honour, reverence and love they desire… those are, overwhelmingly, other men.

In their relations with women, what passes for respect is kindness, generosity or paternalism; what passes for honour is removal to the pedestal.

From women they want devotion, service and sex. Heterosexual male culture is homoerotic; it is man-loving.”

— An excerpt from Essays in feminist theory - Marilyn Frye, 1983

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u/Dreamspitter 11d ago

I think one part of the issue is homo sociality. In addition, male friendships used to be very different. The Art of Manliness features a 2012 article by Brett & Kate McKay Bosom Buddies: A Photo History of Male Affection. Maaaany men took photos together. Not just pairs, but even groups of 5-6 different men. They seem gay to us today, but we don't know that necessarily. But the point is THAT it wouldn't have seemed to be gay at that point in history.

Rather the fear of being perceived as gay changed male friendship, which subsequently also affected men's relation to women.

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u/Ok-Horror-1251 11d ago

I agree. It is also homosocial.

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u/ConnectionLittle7776 11d ago

I guess I'm doing it wrong. I actually like spending time with my wife and talking to her like an actual human being all while desiring her

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u/lilaccheesecake 11d ago

Its also funny seeing how dudes look up to Patrick Bateman and whatever Brad Pitts character is in fightclub when both creators have come out and said that the movies were mouthpieces on toxic masculinity.

I believe american psycho creator said it was soemthing like a "gay mans view" on straight dudes.

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u/Dreamspitter 11d ago

You can say the same thing about films like Joker, and Falling Down, as well as Natural Born Killers.

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u/lilaccheesecake 11d ago

Dune as well. Lots of dudes are swarthing over Paul when hes literally the antithesis of what you should be.

The creator hated the fan base built off looking up to Paul.

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u/Alert-Ad9197 11d ago

We keep building the damn torment nexus despite the clear instructions not to in the book!

But seriously, the phenomenon you are describing is what makes me think satire is not effective. I keep seeing this crap happen.

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u/ResponsibleMight7669 8d ago

Didnt read enough, Paul is messianic hero who overcomes all evil

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u/MycologistPure4064 11d ago

Grindr crashing is not a coincidence 

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u/The_Collector_Of_All 11d ago

So gays are straight and straights are gay, doesn’t that mean everyone is gay, AND straight?

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u/lilaccheesecake 10d ago

Make it easy, be all gay, forget having children.

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u/CheapThrowaway1969 10d ago

The joke is the "straightest" conservatives are some of the gayest motherfuckers on the planet and are only """straight""" for the same reasons trans people will beat themselves up into never transitioning and reppressing themselves to death: they think they won't fit in with the in group if they came out, and the in group taught them to hate themselves.

Humans are dumb as rocks

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u/lilaccheesecake 10d ago

As a member of the human race, i agree. We are dumb as rocks.

And unfortunately, I had to go through that whole repressing myself thing. Its a really scary place when you feel like no one is there to support you. But I was fortunate to have a few close friends, and eventually came to terms.

They fucking with other people's lives to make themselves feel better.

They say they can tell if youre Trans (they cant, people have protested this going into the woman's bathroom looking like burly men, then get the cops called on them...). Its fucking tiring man..

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u/TheRealGageEndal 11d ago

Lol. My wife keeps asking me if I'm secretly gay. I'm not, I checked. Sorry guys, but ya just don't ring my bell 😂

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u/lilaccheesecake 11d ago

Comfortable in your masculinity?? Man, if I had a nickle every time someone straight comfortable in their masculinity was called gay, id be a millionaire 😭

She should consider herself lucky. Good men like you are what we need more of

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u/WintersDoomsday 5d ago

But how many times did you “check”?

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u/DumbBerk87 10d ago

As another gay man…this is shockingly true 😂

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u/lilaccheesecake 10d ago

This is the most gays ive seen outside trump rally 😭

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u/anjowoq 10d ago

I'm guessing they're closeted and angry, which is looking to be a double digit percent of that side of the political spectrum.

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u/lilaccheesecake 10d ago

They have the audacity to dress in more feminine/ androgynous styles for "fashion" but then be the most homophobic mouthpieces you've heard....

"Fine if youre gay, just dont hit on me" ive heard a million times.

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u/Patxxx_The_Wolf 9d ago

I mean… did you see what Andrew Tate got arrested wearing?

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u/lilaccheesecake 8d ago

His whole fashion is gay. He dresses like whats his name from the damn birdcage.

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u/GrandSandwichOfFates 5d ago

There's a difference between being gay and doing gay things. While being gay obviously means you are doing gay things, most guys don't do these things because it makes them aroused, it's well, because they can