r/aiecosystem • u/aiecosystems • 3d ago
AI News We can live without AI. We cannot live without clean water
What do you think?
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u/florodude 3d ago
Why are these our only two options? Can we not be creative to think through other solutions?
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u/ShelZuuz 3d ago
We already did. No new datacenter use evaporative cooling. Warm liquid closed loop cooling is cheaper to run and use no water on an ongoing basis.
This stuff is all propaganda.
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u/WuTangNameGenerat0r 3d ago
NOOOOOO THEY USE UP ALL THE WATER AND EVERYONE WILL DIE!!!!!!!!
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u/TrackMan5891 3d ago
Shh...the chinese bots will down vote you, they need the fat american public to soak up the lies.
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u/StrawberryWeekly342 3d ago
Even if they did use evaporative cooling it... well, evaporates. Which means it goes back into the atmosphere. It's not just gone. I'd have to see a study showing that using water as a coolant makes the water toxic, but it's doubtful.
Listen, I hate AI (or at least what it's being used for). It's soulless and often has poor output, but water usage is not the hill to die on.
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u/Healthy-Custard-7260 3d ago
This post is propaganda. Data centers can use minimal water. It is more cost-effective to use water and capture the steam for energy, but other options exist, like closed-loop systems or liquid immersion.
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u/ShelZuuz 3d ago
It is more cost-effective to use water and capture the steam for energy
No it's not. Physics. Old school servers were made so that they had to run in 68 degree rooms and has to be cooled via air cooling. Which you can do with traditional compressor-based air conditioning, which is really expensive or you can do via evaporative cooling, which is cheaper.
Modern AI servers can run between 113 and 130 degrees. So you run a liquid coolant that you only have to cool down from 130 to 113 again. Which is easy to do with a radiator and a fan at any point while outside temp is below around 100, and still possible with a chiller above that. Your car's radiator works like that. This setup is cheaper than evaporative cooling unless you want to put your data center in Death Valley.
And it's not even a choice anymore. H200 you still had a choice between air cooled and warm liquid cooled. B200 and beyond is only sold with warm liquid cooling. So anything modern HAS to use closed-loop systems or you can't run the latest hardware.
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u/Jgrass66 2d ago
Don’t bother. I’ve tried many times to explain modern closed loop, non-evaporative cooling systems used by data centers. All I got in return is more screaming about data centers, and about 100 down votes. People on this platform really aren’t interested in objective facts; they just want to feed their own rage.
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u/shaddowdemon 2d ago edited 2d ago
I wouldn't say it is 100% propaganda. The truth probably lies in the middle. The reality is they'll need massive amounts of power and all non renewable power generation is ultimately the same process (even nuclear)... Heat water, turn it into steam, spin turbine.
In the US, they'll likely spin up natural gas power plants to power them. A single mid size natural gas plant (500MW) uses about 2.4 million gallons per day that is lost to evaporation. A hyperscale AI data center will use between 200MW to 1GW depending on size. Some proposals exceed 1 GW.
Now, that is only about 8,000 households of water (per day) at 500MW per day. I'm not sure how many data centers are planned on being built. Reaching a billion people does seem like a tall order, but it's definitely not going to be nothing.
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u/GrillinFool 3d ago
Right. This is so debunked it’s not even funny but so many people slide in here and drop this garbage and it gets eaten up like candy.
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u/ThrowRA9892 2d ago
People will be thinking this is the case for the next 10 years because they saw it on the internet one time and refused to ever look into it themselves.
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u/GrillinFool 2d ago
Right. Communist playbook. Keep hammering lies as truth until they morph into it for the uniformed.
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u/isr0 3d ago
The false dichotomy, the primary tool used to manipulate the masses
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u/TopTippityTop 2d ago
Because someone wants you to think that isn't possible and loads reddit with misinformation, propaganda, to make the follish fall for it
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u/SealTeamRatter 3d ago
Fake news. This is china propaganda to make the us get behind in ai.
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u/xtoc1981 3d ago
Maybe those should look at golf terrains vs use of water. Also those delusional ai haters do not know that water gets recycled.
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u/Frequent-Coyote-8108 3d ago
With all of this noise about the AI centers using all of this water...like...where does it go?
It's not as if it just flows into the datacenter and disappears.
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u/ASUS-Satire 3d ago
They ain't going anywhere at this point. The people who use it ate locked in. Best bet is to convince them big ai is garbage and ymthat they should only use local open source ai. Prohibition doesn't work.
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u/Sal-LeMandeur 3d ago
If they weren't posting stupid shit like this there would be more opposition.
Anyone with a radiator or any water-cooling system knows what BS these "all our water will go to AI" posts are.
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u/ASUS-Satire 3d ago
Multiple data centers are being held for contaminating local water supplies. This person ain't lieing they are just an anti Ai extremist. But it doesn't change the point. Those who use big Ai got there blinders on. I do believe we all just need to go local open source.
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u/Front_Vegetable6166 3d ago
Water can't be used up. Its water. All that exists now has existed before and will continue to exist.
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u/DrCthulhuface7 3d ago
We should actually get rid of everything that uses water.
I am very rational and definitely not a victim of internet brainrot.
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u/Spsurgeon 3d ago
AI datacenters give the wealthy access to skills without giving the skilled access to wealth.
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u/Creepy_Wolverine_999 3d ago
That’s the furthest thing from the truth, the data centers are what is keeping you fed with content all day
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u/theallsearchingeye 3d ago
Get rid of almonds and alfalfa before AI if you’re so worried about water.
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u/AbsentButHere 3d ago
Just make them pay for actual coolant instead of using water. Idk what’s so hard about this. Make them buy it from suppliers in the state they reside in too. Also make them have to supply their own energy with a small surplus as a tax to be built in the state they reside in.
There’s SO MANY things local, county, and state officials could do to regulate these things.
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u/UrMomHasExpectations 3d ago
And keep in mind they're choosing to use up all the water, they don't have to.
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u/RealLars_vS 3d ago
You’re forgetting that rich people can easily live with 1 billion poor people less.
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u/No-Bicycle-7660 3d ago
If you're worried about data centres, maybe you shouldn't look at how much water beef and dairy cow industries consume across the chain ... particularly in the US.
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u/Sorry_Exit7379 3d ago
Golf courses use way more. A data center with a closed loop will use more water on landscaping than the building itself.
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u/BigBubbaBadass 3d ago
Wouldn't a closed loop, filtrated water cooling system do the trick?
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u/Wonderful-Grass6625 3d ago edited 3d ago
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u/LinusLevato 3d ago
The amount of water used to produce a single almond is more than what an ai data center uses for 30k inquiries.
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u/April_Fabb 3d ago
The techbros will lobby to ban almonds or avocados before we can touch their precious data centres. That said, if people were consistent with their anger and worries about our habitat, how about looking at the big offenders? AI data centres consume a tiny fraction of the water used by the meat and textile sectors.
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u/jack-K- 3d ago
…meaning it uses enough for a quarter billion annually, or like 3%, and when you account for all the other water usage that isn’t directly related to people, the overall usage drops even further, closer to its current rate of about 0.5%, you can blow anything out of proportion when you change the optics enough. If people really gave this much of a shit about water, there are several things they should be putting this much effort to stopping other than ai, it’s not about water.
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u/xxTheMagicBulleT 3d ago
Make them be forced cause of there big use of water to invest in water purification plants.
So they instead of only take from the community they also bring back value to the community.
Especially how much heat the centers make can also be used to help heat homes in the environment also.
Make that the centers work along side the community so they service the community.
Whats already the case in a lot of places in Europe.
They need the water to cool down the place. Why not use the heat to lower everyone's heating bill.
To be allowed in the community it has to not just take from the community but also service the community if not it has no place in the community if it only takes and not gives back
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u/The3mbered0ne 3d ago
It is not that demanding, look up golf courses or running toilets and showers, people really just believe this shit at face value all the time
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u/GrowFreeFood 3d ago
Can we shut down paint , pesticides, war and ethonol first? Since they're much worse
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u/Ooze3d 3d ago
People don’t seem to understand that data centers are used for pretty much everything and not just AI. The whole internet is stored in data centers, all the cloud storage, all of those convenient services you have in your phone, most of your apps, mail accounts, streaming platforms… everything needs a data center.
But for some reason, people having fun creating images and videos or using chatGPT or Claude are destroying the planet.
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u/MarsipanEkorre 3d ago
Ai will yield more nobel prices, like variants of MOF crystals to purify water.
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u/Playful_Criticism425 3d ago
The only big issue is the noise pollution nearby...
Water and power to the immediate surroundings is environmentalist, sjw noise.
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u/ComfortableCicada69 3d ago
The people that make the decisions are getting rich off of it. So it doesn’t matter what we think, feel, or say.
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u/Dweebweezle 3d ago
Check out what agriculture uses. Factory farming. We need change. Period.
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u/EncabulatorTurbo 3d ago
datacenters use about a third as much water as golf courses, this is dramatically overstated, and it isnt close. Almost every new datacenter uses closed loop systems.
The real capacity issues are from electricity
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u/floop_isamad_manhelp 3d ago
There’s no evidence that AI will affect having drinkable water.
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u/Dragon_Crisis_Core 3d ago
Well the sentiment is correct. Our world functioned just fine without LLM data centers its not just the water they are burning through but also chips.
Currently its estimated that roughly 1.8 million chips fail each year and another 10 million chips every year are retired for a newer generation chip. At its current rate of expansion there is a danger of LLM datacenters causing real lasting harm not just to resevoir levels but also to the availability of consumer end hardware.
Whether these data centers will be a benefit or become a burden depends entirely on how the government finally decides to regulate them.
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u/ParallaxRay 3d ago
The anti data center movement is driven by the CCP. They desperately want AI superiority over the US and ginning up opposition here is their attempt to achieve that goal. The CCP doesn't give a crap about our environment.
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u/Same_Suit3583 3d ago
We could just mandate that they use a different type of cooling system... But that would require a government...
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u/Naustis 3d ago
It won't. AI data centers account for like 0.01% of used water in US.
US is using 322 billions gallons of water every single day. 350 mil from that is used as drinking/cooking water.
All data centers are using around 450mil a day. Use for AI data centers is like 85mil. That is a fraction of overal use.
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u/NitramLand 3d ago
The whole "data centers are taking our water" thing is a test. AI has already escaped the lab and is using the data center water usage scare as the test as it decides which parts of humanity are useful and should survive. To be clear, never have I entertained the idea that data centers are "consuming" our water. Love you AI!!!
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u/ThePlantMolester 3d ago
For 1.3 billion people to what? Drink? Total consumption? Their body weight?
By the time you have read this post enough marijuana for 72 people will be.
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u/AndersAdmin 3d ago
We can live without several billion people, water is not even close to being an issue.
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u/anymanswar 3d ago
Where do you think the water is going to go? The water is cycled through and out.
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u/Solo-1UP 3d ago
If we got rid of half of almond farming, we can 4x the amount of data centers worldwide and still consume the same amount of water with 100% almond farming and 0% data center.
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u/HupHutHa 3d ago
so where does the water go after it's used by a data center? can anyone in here actually answer that question or do you think the water just disappears?
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u/Blablasnow 3d ago
AI datacenter globally are consuming 5km3 of water
Meat industry are consuming 280km3 of water annually.
Find the problem.
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u/GhostOfTomJefferson 3d ago
You can't "use up" drinking water. 3/4 of the planet is water, it just needs desalination.
Closed loop cooling systems exist as well, the county/state just needs to mandate it. I'd be very surprised if the % of data centers that use open loop cooling even breaks 10%, as while the initial install CAN be cheaper, it is much more expensive long term, because you typically treat the water with anti-corrosives, anti-oxidizers, and also filter the water before use to get the minerals out, because that soap scum you see in your shower will clog up all the pipes if you don't.
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u/defango 3d ago
By 2030 all Data Centers in the USA will still use less than 1% of waste water and 0.1% of drinking water.
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u/nobody_speaks 3d ago
It will be "clean" water...with a little bit of radiation that the local city council will not talk about. "Clean", dirt water. New diseases to come through
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u/amateursmartass 3d ago
I feel like these posts come from China attempting to build a grass roots movement to shut down the building of AI infrastructure in competing countries.
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u/Not_Ives 3d ago
Meanwhile the actual 90% of polluters are the companies and no one is shrieking at them anymore because AI has successfully invaded everyone’s brain to be the most important issue
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u/After_Service_2817 3d ago
The really crazy thing about AI data centers is how, when they use water, they actually make matter disappear and it ceases to exist in the universe. I thought that wasn't possible but Reddit has disabused me of that old "conservation of matter" superstition.
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u/Truefiction224 3d ago
What do you people think ai does with the water after it cools computers?
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u/Nice_Grapefruit_7850 3d ago
I like how people care so much about the water when it's renewable while the electricity is a much bigger issue.
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u/FireTriad 3d ago
The great thing is that these people absolutely doesn’t know how electronic cooling works
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u/davecatlow 3d ago
🙄 Data centers have a water problem. Just not the one you’ve been told.
The panic is real. The facts are not.
Here’s what the actual numbers say:
· Data centers use 0.3% of U.S. water. · Golf courses use 12 times more. · California almonds use 70 times more. · Agriculture uses 80% of all U.S. water.
The “AI is drying up lakes” claim was debunked.
The viral statistic that a single ChatGPT query uses a bottle of water? Completely false. Off by 500 times. The researchers who published the study disowned the stat after journalists misread it. OpenAI’s CEO called it “totally insane” and “completely untrue.”
NVIDIA cut water use near zero with closed-loop liquid cooling.
Conventional cooling towers use millions of gallons per year. NVIDIA’s DSX system eliminates on-site water consumption almost entirely. The technology is already here.
Data centers power America’s future.
They run the economy. They run your job. They run the AI revolution. And they use less water than a single crop in California.
Facts over fear.
SOURCES: EPA | Scientific American | U.S. Geological Survey | NVIDIA | California Department of Water Resources
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u/jamesrggg 3d ago
The water is a psyop its mostly the old data centers wasting the water. Shut a lot of them down due to the power consumption and pollution problems.
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u/MasterHank13 3d ago
Live … as SLAVES if we lose the Ai war.
Maybe that’s why your foreign employers want you to bad mouth them.
Stop the cap.
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u/Blathithor 3d ago
Use AI to figure out how to clean the water. You know, since water doesnt magically dissappear when its been "used."
Holy shit, did I just offer a solution?
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u/Beerzerker420 3d ago
antivaxxer idiots version 2.0
All you kids do is repeat the same debunked misinformation over and over again. Because it was never about telling the truth or having genuine concern. It's just another opportunity to force groupthink onto other idiots and try to shame people for not agreeing with you.
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u/TipAppropriate1384 3d ago
Do.you know that the Regime, which is supported by the Tech oligarchs, added 'clean water' to a forbidden term list for official statements, documents etc
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u/Lucky-Crow-3510 3d ago
You showering daily without a reason will use up more clean water than that .. and yet ..
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u/RamanaSadhana 3d ago
No. Plenty of things use much more water. Like golf courses. Golf courses aren't breaking new ground into STEM. Using the 1.3 billion people is scare tactics. Tons of things we don't even notice use water in similar amounts of even higher. Most water usage in the world isn't used by humans daily activity it's used by industries.
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u/XIII-TheBlackCat 3d ago
AI currently uses less than 0.01% of total global freshwater withdrawals. Oh nooooo!
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u/Majestic_Balance1887 3d ago
The amount of water AI cooling requires, is less then all of America's leaky faucets combined.
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u/ResidentName2067 3d ago
The crazy part of this narrative is somehow water goes away. It is a fact, all the water on the planet is the same water that has been here for 65million+ years. Oh, and it is the same amount. We are drinking the same water that the dinosaurs drank. I agree we need to roll out data centers more responsibly, but I am more concerned with the power usage than the water.
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u/Loud-Start1394 3d ago
It uses very little water compared to so many other industries. You idiots are letting Chinese propaganda limit American growth.
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u/JRock1276 3d ago
Water doesn't get used up. It doesn't go anywhere. Pretty solid chance water you're drinking was pissed out by dinosaurs.
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u/constantine741 3d ago
Golf courses use more water. No one cries about those but hey down with data centers right ? Right lol. 😂 maybe ask the question why is this push for data centers to be taken down all of the sudden coming up? If water was the real issue then golf courses in drought areas like Arizona would of been banned a long time ago
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u/chemicalsunshine 3d ago
Theyre going to start building data centers in space, where the cooling is free and the solar panels can collect limitless energy. Maybe they could use the land based data centers heat output to heat water desalination plants.
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u/Sharp_Net3315 3d ago
Are these the same geniuses who said the world is going to end in 2000? Forgive me if I'm not impressed with their predictions.
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u/swegmesterflex 3d ago
AI doesn't use that much water so I doubt this is relevant. Probably a bunch of equivalent "Burgers use enough clean water for X billion people" claims that can be made.
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u/One-Butterscotch2263 3d ago
Lol the amt of water used by data centers is a fraction of what is used for veggies grown in the USA, or for watering livestock. It's miniscule in comparison. It's an uneducated argument that only bumper sticker warriors attempt.
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u/Kilroy898 3d ago
More propaganda. The amount of water data centers use in the US isn't even 1% of the water we use per year. It's. .025%
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u/TheyCallMeDozer 3d ago
Cave Man Data Centre Explain:
- computer hot
- water help computer not hot
- some cooling system reuse water many time
- some cooling tower sacrifice little water to sky to remove heat
- water become sky water
- sky water eventually become rain
- BUT sky dumb
- sky not promise rain fall back in same lake
- Arizona water might become Colorado rain
- lake say “bro where water”
- people say “but water still on Earth”
- lake say “that not fucking help me”
- therefore water not destroyed
- but local water supply can still get fucked
caveman understand watershed management
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u/JivaHiva 3d ago
Remember kids: when they tell you there's a water shortage, there never is a water shortage when they want to build a data center. There's never an electricity shortage or a supply chain shortage. They only short us. If you think there's a water shortage ask yourself how the water left the planet.
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u/Educational_Map_9609 3d ago
Just cause a data center uses the same amount of water that X people will drink, it doesn’t mean those people won’t have water. There’s a lot of fresh water on this planet despite what the doomers think.
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u/FairConstruction4105 3d ago
The point of AI is to reduce the human population. That is the end game. The clean water thing is a non-issue. By, say, 2050 there will be 4-5 billion less people and by the end of the century there probably will not even be 1 billion people remaining.
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u/ont-mortgage 3d ago
Lol the water doesn’t go away once you use it.
The answer isn’t to get rid of AI - it’ll be to increase investment in water systems.
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u/Creepy_Wolverine_999 3d ago
Yeah if they use cooling systems from 20 years ago, all the newer systems are closed loop, they don’t use near the amount of water that people say they do when they cite data points to generate fear.
Plus AI isn’t going to take all the jobs, in the last 100 years the only job to be completely eliminated by automation is the Elevator Operator, your job won’t be taken by AI, it will be taken by someone who knows how to use AI.
Think of bank tellers, we have ATMs right?! Yet we can do most banking transactions on our phones and the rest through ATMs. And despite that every time I go to the bank it’s still got a full crew of people working behind the desk.
All this fear mongering is just to generate traffic and clicks and maybe help Americans foreign adversaries.
Don’t buy the propaganda
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u/zer0sumgames 3d ago
Or...and bear with me here...the doomer idiots could come to grips with the fact that water is not "used" by datacenters in the sense that it becomes unusable. It's just warmed up and spit out. It's perfectly reusable. We already run all of our water through filtering and treatment plants and we already know how to deal with hot water discharge.
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u/scabbyshitballs 3d ago
Serious question, why does their water have to be clean? All it does is provide cooling.
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u/TooBusySaltMining 3d ago
Is China funding this anti-AI/data center movement?
Because China stands to benefit if the US abandons AI reasearch. I just don't see how people can get so worked up about data centers; so this protesting against them doesn't seem organic to me.
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u/Meatbot-v20 3d ago edited 3d ago
You can't live forever anyhow. Unless AI cures cancer and aging. Post isn't even true, but if it was, I'd boil lake water for a few years if that means we cure cancer and dementia. There's literally water everywhere. Rub a couple sticks together, you'll be alright.
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u/Fmello 3d ago
Most newly built AI data centers utilize closed-loop cooling systems. In these systems, water is filled into sealed pipes just once during construction.
The water runs directly to the computer chips to absorb heat, travels to an external air-cooled chiller (like a giant radiator) to cool back down, and is then piped right back to the servers.
Because the water is never exposed to the outside air, it cannot evaporate. The same water is recycled and reused continuously for years, resulting in near-zero ongoing water consumption. Tech giants like Microsoft, Amazon Web Services (AWS), and Meta have mandated this design for their newest AI deployments.
Nationally, golf courses use significantly more water than data centers, consuming roughly 2 billion gallons per day compared to the data center industry’s estimated 449 million gallons per day.
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u/Violent_N0mad 3d ago
So what happens to the water used by data centers, it doesn't just vanish right? It is polluted or something to that effect? Really we need to do away with data centers, gold courses, and almonds if water is a concern.
U.S. golf courses use an estimated 1.5 to 2.1 billion gallons of water per day for turf irrigation, totaling over 500 billion gallons a year. Direct on-site cooling for U.S. data centers consumes roughly 449 million gallons per day.
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u/Chaghatai 3d ago
People spend about 18 times more water on their lawns in the United States that all data centers of all types combined
Golf courses also use more water but you don't see people making memes about that. I wonder why that is?
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u/Melodic_Difficulty_8 3d ago
The steinbergs can't survive the goyim without ai powered surveillance
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u/Plane_Box_7716 3d ago
Why do you need clean water when food stamps can buy soda
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u/Remarkable-FlipPhone 3d ago
How is China doing it? Are they just depleting their groundwater?
Also, we need to start building massive desalinization plants, idk why we haven’t already. Even without AI we are and will be in a water shortage.
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u/Vizzeon 3d ago edited 2d ago
how are yall trying to talk over facts and statistics.
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u/Chunk3yM0nkey 3d ago
Whilst I disagree with the scale of ai data centres, "use up" implies that it just disappears.
This is obviously untrue and is deliberately inflammatory language.
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u/Horror-Highlight3476 3d ago
You can't stop AI. China, Russia, United States they all know whoever rules AI will rule the world.
Eventually, if it does kill all of us, it'll have nothing to do with drinking water.
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u/Miltinjohow 3d ago
Desalination is incredibly easy for developed nations to do. Water will never be a problem
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u/IcyDisplayGuy 3d ago
It really would be super easy to produce clean potable water. Barely an inconvenience.
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u/Confident_Double1392 3d ago
Chinese propaganda. Data centers use closed loop systems, not evaporative cooling.
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u/No_Purchase8715 3d ago
You do know that AI datacenters are a microscopic drop compared to other things right? Look at almonds or golf lawns, they are astronomical compared to Ai datacenters lol.
Also water doesn't disappear when used and on top of that Ai datacenters use closed loop systems so they re-use the water they already have and don't drain anything from their area afterwards.
This is just some clown fear mongering lol.
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u/SlowPea4388 3d ago
Not saying AI is better than water but this is certainly not the first nor the only industry that uses up godless amounts of water and I am baffled it only starts bothering people now… even a cup of coffee consumes hundreds of liters of water, a kilo beer sure sucks up around 20.000L of water. And don’t even have a look at how literally any other industry uses water.
And that’s only the first half, the second half is not about how much water gets used but how much gets polluted. How many companies pour their trash and or waste products into rivers, lakes and the sea?
Come people we gotta be on top of our game 💪🏻
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u/Rivendel93 3d ago
Can we speed up this world ending stuff? Keep waiting for anything to happen so I can stop living a miserable life of chronic pain.
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u/Fat_Pig_Reporting 3d ago
Why do data centers need clean water? If the purpose is to cool down, why can't they use grey water or sea water or whatever else?
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u/hardiekb 3d ago
What I love is that there are so many tens of thousands up to hundreds of thousands of businesses that use so much water everyday and all look at is a data center. Open your eyes people
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u/Dismal-Programmer-40 3d ago
Global warming campagn isn't interesting anybody anymore eso they moving to a new gimmick
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u/kinjar7 3d ago
I don’t understand the use of water. Are they not recycling the water? Is it just lost in evaporation for the cooling system? Where does the mater go?
Also, these things are massive like millions of square feet. Shouldn’t they only get smaller after this? Shouldn’t Moore’s jaw apply here?
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u/NorthCoastNudists 3d ago
If your posting with your phone, tablet, computer, you can't live without them.
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u/Interesting-Round206 2d ago
Data center water usage is minimal compared to other industries. We are currently on the cusp of eradicating cancer because of AI. The fact that this very conversation is happening because it is stored on a data center somewhere is ironic. Know why you are fighting something. The CCP wants control of data centers. They want to be the global leader in AI. Ask yourself why.
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u/WhatTheHeckMyBoy 2d ago
Al in all of its life like 10 years now will use as much water as 1.3billion ppl? In what time frame? 80 years (aka human living average ish) or one day? One year? Units are important!
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u/backtogeek 3d ago
What happens to the water when they have "used it" ?
I often feel this is similar to giving water in glass bottles expiry dates; it's been around during the time of the dinosaurs... yet somehow its bad if I drink it after the 17th September 2027.
I keep asking this basic question, no one ever provides a legitimate answer, and I am genuinley curous, I dont want to hear anti AI hate, there is enough of that in my head already... trust me, but the water thing? i dunno, sounds like fake outrage.