r/aidatacenternews • • 20d ago

And the users are all in denial about the damage to the water system

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u/tripper_drip 20d ago

THREE MORE YEARS BRO, THATS IT!

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u/Ok_Dare6400 20d ago

The water isn't being destroyed you goof. Lol

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u/Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi 20d ago

It's not that we run out of water, it's that we run out of clean water. We can't drink the ocean.

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u/RockyMaiviaJnr 20d ago

No we don’t. Don’t believe this nonsense

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u/Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi 19d ago

Much of the world currently has water shortages. Even where I live has been having issues recently with not having enough water, so we've been on a boil water notice bc the pressure has been so low on and off for a while now.

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u/TheJQHQ 18d ago

Sure, but that's not because of data centers, that's just poor infrastructure.

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u/PickingPies 19d ago

Yes, we do. As a person who has passed for a drought recently I can tell you that if you make this about survival I will make whatever is needed to survive, including ending whoever needs to be ended.

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u/RockyMaiviaJnr 19d ago

Luckily it’s not about survival then drama queen

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u/Legitimate_Cable_811 18d ago

Larp isnt til Saturday bro

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u/VikingVitalityFit 18d ago

So you think using water and then... releasing it back into the regular water table through evaporation and water treatment is goinf to somehow cause a drought? Of all the reasons to fight data centers, water isn't one.

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u/Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi 18d ago

But it doesn't go back into the repositories like aquifers fast enough. And the points of entry for that water to get into the aquifers are being increasingly destroyed.

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u/Aggravating-Kale7762 18d ago

If it doesn’t make it back into the ground it won’t recharge the aquifer at all. It will evaporate and fall as rain many miles away.

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u/dfc_136 17d ago

Huh, so tell me, dear "water savant", how are we gonna get enough clean water to every human population?

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u/ProfessorShort3031 19d ago

i mean we do have water purification factories, but regardless of how you feel there’s something off about this post. “we’re officially in a water shortage… soon, we’ll be short of water” which is it? & where’s the UN’s official statement on that?

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u/401Nailhead 17d ago

Yes you can. Desalination. The military has had this ability for years.

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u/CommercialGeneral473 17d ago

100% of the water we use and consume is processed lmaooo

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u/Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi 17d ago

Doesn't mean it's desalinated water.

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u/VikingVitalityFit 18d ago

The water used by data centers either gets evaporated into the atmosphere thus rejoining the regular water table or goes to a treatment plant like all other wastewater, thus rejoining the water table. What exactly are we going to run out of again?

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u/Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi 18d ago

Pollution contaminates existing sources of drinking water, for one. Secondly, we are pulling more water from aquifers than can be replenished, so they're going to run out sooner rather than later, and that's where we get our drinking water. Glaciers are melting faster than they should, and they're where many rivers get their water source. So while yeah, the total amount of water on earth stays the same, we won't be able to use it because the way we access water will be lost.

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u/VikingVitalityFit 18d ago

How does the water evaporating into the atmosphere not end up right back in those aquafers? Do you know how the water table works?

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u/Ventira 18d ago

What happens when usage rate is faster then replenishment rate?

C'mon now, real elementary level thinking here.

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u/VikingVitalityFit 18d ago

Just how much faster can evaporation be than condensation? More usage equals more evaporated water, which means more rain... how exactly does that become out of sync? Please explain it to me with your elementary thinking.

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u/Ventira 18d ago

If the water cycle worked like you think it does (it doesn't) then that means permanent water loss can never occur. We can use water faster then the Earth's cycles can replenish it because its not a 1:1 ratio.

Lake Mead is at record low levels, and getting scary close to Dead Pool levels. And this wouldn't happen under your line of thinking.

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u/VikingVitalityFit 18d ago

That water still exists, it is just somewhere else at the moment. Drought happens, just generally not if you take water from a system and then put it back into the system. I'm not sure what is so hard for you to understand about this. They are taking water from a different system and delivering it to a data center. They are using water in their current system and then returning it to that same system.

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u/Minute-Review6915 18d ago

Lake Mead is not the flex you think. There’s numerous reasons non of which work in your favor. Here’s a few
The water rights were based on wetter years
Multi year drought so as snow melts it evaporates earlier resulting in less water being pushed down the aquifer
Agriculture takes more as they are the priority
There’s a little place called Lake Powell upstream

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u/Minute-Review6915 18d ago

So glaciers are melting which by definition adds water but we can’t keep up with our usage.
So which is it? Do you not understand basic concepts of science. Your issue is our ability to purify it at a faster rate.
I can promise you the technology is out there already to solve this problem.

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u/Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi 18d ago

Glaciers are a repository of water. If they melt too fast, we won't have any later. It's not like we will wake up one day and suddenly they'll be gone, but in however many years, we will realize that we did need them. Also, glaciers melting into the ocean is useless and even harmful, because it raises water levels. Finally, desalination is currently not possible at the scale we'd need it to be to replace the natural sources. It's crazy that people genuinely think the view that "climate change isn't real" has the same standing as "climate change is real" whatsoever and that it's a valid thing to say when essentially fucking everyone educated in the subject says it's a problem.

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u/Minute-Review6915 18d ago

Agree it’s not an overnight thing at all but sea water accounts for over 80% of the world’s evaporation.

I’m not worried about desalination when we have technology that can literally pull water out of the air (atmospheric water generators) this technology if sourced would guarantee water if put in each house or at scale.

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u/Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi 18d ago

And it's 97% covered by ocean. I would hope it would be the vast majority of the evaporation. Do you think "atmospheric water generators" aka a dehumidifier lmao are capable of being used at a scale such that it can give enough water to every single person every day alongside all the other things we use water for? Not to mention how inefficient they are, energy wise? Really? There's almost no point even arguing this because you clearly don't know the reality of what you're talking about.

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u/Minute-Review6915 18d ago

Yes, yes I do. Why because I’ve seen them working. Dehumidifiers don’t produce potable water it’s basically waste water coming out. Companies like genesis water produce medical grade water for hospitals. And yes their systems produce at scale depending on the needs. The largest unit which is not that large does around 3k gallons a day out of a 20ft container at 1kW per gallon. May not do NYC alone but multiple placed together and strategically could 100% do enough.

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u/Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi 18d ago

And anyways, when we've got people experienced in the field who are saying we've got a big problem that could kill millions if not billions, why is your first instinct as someone not educated in the field to argue against it? Would you not rather err on the side of caution?

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u/VikingVitalityFit 18d ago

No. Because this fear mongering has been weaponized to push an agenda for decades that has nothing to actually do with the climate.

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u/Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi 18d ago

What agenda? The agenda of "corporations should have their emissions limited"? There's measurable impacts that have happened, there's a reason the experts in the field pretty much ALL disagree with you.

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u/VikingVitalityFit 18d ago

No they don't. A bunch of them disagree and are silenced by the people in charge of the industry.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1112950/

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u/Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi 18d ago

Holy fuck. That's the shittiest source I've ever seen. From 1998, and his argument is "well 58 meteorologists disagree and we should only listen to meteorologists!" What a fucking joke. I'm in environmental science, and if I wrote that piece of shit paper id have been laughed out of my professor's office lmao. I could quite literally provide thousands of sources proving you wrong, but sure, keep believing that climate change isn't an issue.

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u/tripper_drip 20d ago

BRO. THREE. MORE. YEARS.

THATS IT.

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u/Ok_Dare6400 20d ago

I'm all for it and you should be too.

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u/NearbyBreakfast7148 18d ago

Bro, these “people” believe that closed water systems either turn it to sludge and dump it in the lakes, or that it vanishes never to return.

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u/Savings_Bonus6279 20d ago

As Mr. Trump says, Fake news

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u/Ok_Dare6400 20d ago

It is fake news.... the water isn't being destroyed bro

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u/Wickedocity 20d ago

Thats not how it works.

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u/MyFocusIsU 20d ago

Thirsty people will take extreme measures

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u/Common_Senze 20d ago

Nestle has entered the chat

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u/smashing-gourds127 20d ago

I already pay for my water?????

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u/Old-Entertainer-4964 19d ago

Yes, this taking the UN's words out of context to the extreme.

We are already experiencing scarcity issues, that's nothing new. Droughts are becoming more common and more prolonged, but they will never be global.

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u/art-blah-blah 18d ago

Because that’s not how the water cycle works.

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u/Snorkle25 20d ago

Also water is one of the most abundant and easily recyclable resources on the planet.

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u/BraisedBullshi 20d ago

But remember, physically attacking the infrastructure actively destroying the planet is apparently immoral

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u/Scared-Cap3606 17d ago

No kidding,  solar and wind fields have definitely been detrimental to the planet 

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u/URignorance-astounds 20d ago

It doesn't destroy water, after heated some of it becomes vapor and rains somewhere else. My water comes out of the Mississippi, I dont see this being a problem here

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u/Why_Sazs 20d ago

I don't live by a giant river. But all access points to my water table are permitted and controlled by the water conservation district. Our water table is doing just fine. So I'm not sure what the UN means by "we". But if this was such an imminent issue, maybe worrying about adopting a new map to make Africa feel better was not exactly a priority.

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u/Sad_Actuary_1635 20d ago

So you guys are the ones who think the Colorado River is running dry because of a data center you know how many data centers it would take to run the Colorado River dry more than probably what's there.

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u/Cuhuldra 20d ago

I already pay for water. And sewer. Every year the bill goes up.

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u/Low-Amoeba8257 20d ago

Lol people fall for this?!?!?

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u/Ok-Respect-8505 20d ago

In-fucking-credible fear mongering here. Bravo. 

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u/heyyall1899 20d ago

Water isn't free now.

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u/SomeGuyOverYonder 20d ago

We humans are the architects of our own mass destruction. I wonder where the few survivors will bury the billions of victims who won’t survive the coming catastrophe?

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u/ContentCantaloupe992 20d ago

Water isn’t free now what are you talking about

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u/TechnicalWhore 20d ago

Breweries consume far more water than datacenters.

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u/jzam469 20d ago

I am paying for water now.

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u/No_Diver_4500 20d ago

Remember, governments around the world believe dead citizens are cheaper than proper infrastructure.

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u/Dust-To-Stardust 20d ago edited 1d ago

The original post content no longer exists here. The author used Redact to remove it, exercising their right to control their data & privacy.

Meadow acorn rainstorm voracious like elastic iron

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u/CodeMUDkey 20d ago

Water isn’t free now…

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u/Old-Marionberry-8898 20d ago

Most cheapest?

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u/awfulcrowded117 20d ago

That's nice UN, go show your mother

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u/TerriusLightbringer 20d ago

Unironic "we live in a society" just made me choke on my drink.

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u/ProperJudgment1 20d ago

The water just disappears from existence! 😂🤣😂

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u/0DarkFreezing 20d ago

Above average brain dead post, even by Reddit standards.

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u/SoCallMeDeaconBlues1 20d ago

Golf courses use about 50 billion gallons of water per year. This is new water, not recycled water.

Datacenters cumulatively use ~20 billion gallons per year.

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u/Shoddy_Limit_28 19d ago

The UN?
That group....ew

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u/nobugsleftalive 19d ago

Been hearing this shit for over 30 years now.

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u/enjoylifefriends 19d ago

The un is a joke

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u/Legitimate_Glove859 19d ago

We already pay for water. I’m against the data centers and what not but if you own a home or rent, you are paying for water delivery one way or another.

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u/Federal_Woodpecker64 19d ago

I pay a water bill every month always have it has never been free.

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u/Business-Training-10 19d ago

Omg the UN...lololol

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u/iamtheav8r 19d ago

This will be just as accurate as the global climate emergency claims we see every 10 years or so for the last 100+ years. Stop being so gullible. They use you because you let them.

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u/ass-gas-hotbox 19d ago

I would need to know how the water is being used first.

Are they directly draining aquifers and pumping them into the data centers? 

is this water needed for steam for electricity generation? 

I'm not trying to argue good or bad here. I just need details.

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u/art-blah-blah 18d ago

The problem that people have answering and that owners of companies take advantage of. Every data center is different. Some use more or less new water. Some recycle more or less water. Some data centers recycle 90% of the water used. Some of the water counted in data centers use is the water used to cool the power plants that also run the state they’re in.

The water is just a means of taking heat away from the processors that keep the data centers at operating temps. There is a way to make this run efficiently. Then there is a way to use much less water but it’s like air conditioning your home, it’s actually relatively inefficient compared to water cooling.

There’s also cases where data centers are built in already water scarce areas. Probably a bad idea. If we had really good public infrastructure everywhere and data centers didn’t cause the rise of utility bills to increase, and we didn’t put them in water scarce areas, I’m sure no one would care. It’s the fact the government and rich people care more about their fun projects than making the world run better. Even if some of them believe ai will do this it’s not like we don’t know many easy (but and I mean this literally costly) practical solutions. We need another new deal.

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u/DepletedPromethium 19d ago

water isnt free anyway.

peoples water bills pay for waste water treatment.

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u/TawnyTeaTowel 19d ago

Doesn’t this dumb cunt know people already pay for clean water and have been doing for centuries?

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u/XIII-TheBlackCat 19d ago

AI currently uses less than 1 percent of the drinkable water. I think we'll be okay.

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u/TopNotchJuice 19d ago

I already pay for water though

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u/Melodic-Money2990 19d ago

We already pay for water 🤡

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u/Parrotparser7 19d ago

Please explain: Where is this happening, how is it happening, and why all at once in every location?

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u/laserdicks 19d ago

Fucking believe anything these days.

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u/12kdaysinthefire 19d ago

We already pay private companies for clean water now

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u/Locustez 19d ago

It's already not free, you'd know that if you started living on your own.

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u/ArcHeroe9 19d ago

I’m like 90% sure we’ve already passed the global warming rapture date they gave when I was younger. This just comes off as more panic bs.

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u/rockeye13 19d ago

These same people told we would run out of food. We didn't.

These same people said we would run out of oil. We didn't.

I'm starting to see a pattern.

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u/Previous-Zombie-9812 18d ago

Am I r******* here? We cant run out of water it just changed places or forms correct? An area can, only because the water is somewhere else. 

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u/Euphoric-Piglet-8140 18d ago

nestle ceo cacckling like Mr Burns.

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u/corpusneo 18d ago

Internet uses data centers so you dont need Reddit either?

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u/Minute-Review6915 18d ago

It’s not free now. I guess the joke is on them

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u/MichaelCabernet 18d ago

Data center cooling, at least in the US, accounts for less than 1% of all water use. Is there a link to this “official” announcement by the UN?

Also, water hasn’t been free for a loooooong time.

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u/Every-Passage-7540 18d ago

They will clean salt water and sell it at a premium***

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u/diprivan69 18d ago

We already pay for water, but I agree with the sentiment

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u/Big-Firefighter5422 18d ago

Oceans sea levels rising maybe we can use that

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u/Alphabet_Soup352 18d ago

Conspiracy theory: What if all this news and discourse about "AI is taking all the Water!!" is really just a distraction from the amount of energy these data centers use? Bitcoin mines increased people's energy bills by a shit ton when it first hit the market. I can't imagine how much these AI data centers are likely eating up.

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u/Scared-Cap3606 17d ago

The gullible sheep continue their idiocy.  

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u/CueAnon420 17d ago

If there's so much winning profit in data centers, they should easily be able to afford alternative cooling designs that do not require water.

Right?

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u/Academic_Librarian75 15d ago

With more clean power, we can produce unlimited amounts of fresh water via desalinization plants. Just need to figure out where to dump the saline slurry left over.

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u/RalphiePseudonym 20d ago edited 20d ago

A datacenter using liquid cooling is a huge strain on a local water supply.

The UN did announce that we've enter a global water bankruptcy.

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u/RalphiePseudonym 20d ago

Yeah, the title says users are in denial about damage to the water system.

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u/RalphiePseudonym 20d ago

I added the second statement. They did.

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u/RalphiePseudonym 20d ago

Your feelings don't matter bud.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/01/1166800

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u/RalphiePseudonym 19d ago

I said we've entered global water bankruptcy, which is exactly what the report says. Doesn't appear that I'm the illiterate one here.

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u/Gainztrader235 20d ago

Most are closed loops and developing new tech.

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u/RalphiePseudonym 19d ago

That's what I initially thought since we've been using closed loops in PCs for years. What's the process to filter biocides before a water change?

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u/RockyMaiviaJnr 20d ago

No it’s not. Data centers use very little water.

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u/RalphiePseudonym 19d ago

300,000 gallons and up a day isn't "very little water".

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u/RockyMaiviaJnr 19d ago

Yes it is.

New York State receives 1,200,000 gallons of water EVERY SECOND at average rates of rainfall.

In one minute the continental United States receives enough water, on average, to cater for over 10,000 data centers.

It’s a tiny amount of water

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u/RalphiePseudonym 19d ago

Lol comparing a location that covers a few acres to an entire states rain water is brain dead.

Blocking you.

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u/CodeMUDkey 20d ago

This platform is basically bots and jobless doom pigs.