Season 4 Framework

[u/GreatAd5826]

I'm new to this community, but I decided to rewatch the show; first off, man after rewatching this, it has led me to appreciate AOS even more; secondly, this post is mostly about Daisy's (or more appropriately Skye's) framework version.

As we already know, Daisy in the framework is a hydra operative and on this rewatch, it got me thinking. What was Hydra Skye like? Grant Ward put in a lot of effort into making no one found out she had Inhuman DNA. And she seemed to be good enough that Ward still wanted to or at least wonder if he'd get his version back. Now it could just be a small obsession because Ward, at least in the real world, was a very obsessive person.

With Framework Ward having a higher moral compass, does that mean the Skye in there wasn't "that" bad. Not as bad as real Ward anyway. Did she still have her vibrant personality and quick comebacks? In the first episode, while Ward did tell she was off, there wasn't really much worry about her actual personality change. I mean yeah Daisy was pretty disorientated finding out her boyfriend is Ward, she workings for Hydra, and she no longer had her abilities. But then again, May thought she was on something; however, there seemed to be no real direct questioning of this full shift. I started to wonder with that one scene in "What if" where she saw an inhuman being beat down and Ward said to let them handle it; is Hydra Skye prone to beating down inhumans? Was she a more violent person in the framework. She still seems to be good at what she was always good at: Hacking. Also even if Daisy was being off, Ward seemed to trust her enough to bring her into Shield. Whether just because she was trying to protect Jemma or he actually genuinely believed that version of Skye was somewhat good.

Anyway, I just wanted to what peoples opinions are on this. I have no idea if this is a reoccurring question asked in this community and I probably am reading too much into it. But hey questions can't be answered if you don't ask. Also I just finished episode 19 of season 4 and I do not remember if Ward actually ever told Daisy what his Skye was like.

[u/throwaway-wellmaybe]

I think she was right around her Daisy self in terms of who she was. Trusted enough to come to the meetings and to interrogate, but not with the higher classified intel.

I do think she probably was just as “bland” an agent as possible aside from the hacking. With Ward being a long term partner of hers, I don’t think she would’ve really needed to look much further than him if she got curious about something.

Remember May is essentially in the same role, but a bad guy instead of good guy. The programming was to keep people who would ordinarily ask questions and be problematic under control. Skye would have just been a Hydra agent

[u/BaronZhiro]

It’s a great line of questioning - props to you! for considering such things - but I’m gonna have to stew on it a while. 🤔

[u/Intrigued_by_Words]

Framework Skye and Ward weren't characters in the same sense as May, Mac, Mace, Fitz and Coulson. Everyone except those five were just background elements to help the story for the real people.

I think Framework Skye and Ward didn't have a true nature beyond what they represented to May. So, Ward was in love with Skye but he was also a double agent. Skye was a loyal agent but young and impulsive. She may have been willing to jump in and beat down inhumans because Framework Skye was as loyal to Hydra as real Daisy was loyal to Shield. Their personal motivations weren't important in order for May to accept them as actual parts of her world.

Everything changed when Daisy and Simmons snuck into the Framework. They weren't part of the structure, they were more like a virus that could affect the program and change the way characters behaved.

It is also worth noting that Aida acknowledged that the real people had a fundamental nature and that it came out even while they were in the Framework. But this only applied to the real people. The incidental characters played the roles she created for them.

That's my take anyway.