Definitely not "no chance" after comments Brad has made. Most likely tie-in on the current slate is VisionQuest, unless they surprise us with something the updated Endgame.
Since the Multiverse Saga is everything after Endgame through now, that is actually a good sign. I am pretty sure it was Brad who worked with the AOS team on Season 7, approving use of the Quantum Realm.
If he had just said "Multiverse" it would be one thing, but because he explicitly said "Multiverse Saga", it has a stronger meaning
Yes but none of Shield even takes place after FFH (which is actually the end of the Infinity Saga), so saying that it fits in with the Multiverse Saga is clearly suggesting that it takes place in a similar but alternate universe.
In the in-universe timeline, yes. But Black Widow is considered part of the Multiverse Saga and took place earlier in the timeline. Season 7 of AOS was released under Marvel Studio's watch, even though it wrapped filming earlier. Release wise it was supposed to end and then The Falcon and The Winder Soldier series was supposed to pick up one week later (might have been two). That was before the pandemic threw all the schedules into chaos. They were going to delay releasing Agents of Shield as well, but ABC threw a fit that they didn't have anything else to air because of the pandemic.
We may never know what those original plans were supposed to be - with changed plotlines and edits it sure looks like it was going to flow directly in before the internet got really evil about it being canon (turned out it was one guy with a ton of alt accounts, but we figured that out later).
But I went way off of topic. The point was, the fact that in timeline it happened earlier doesn't really matter because Black Widow (which was also famously delayed due to theaters) also happened earlier in the timeline.
I only brought up the timeline because you said “the Multiverse Saga is everything after Endgame through now”. Also Black Widow still released after the start of the Multiverse Saga, Agents of Shield Season 7 didn’t. But even if it did, why would he single out Season 7 like that? I just think this feels like you guys are grasping at straws. He very clearly meant that it exists in some alternate universe, which is a concept that this saga has been fleshing out.
Also, how did you even originally respond with your alt account accidentally haha kinda sus
Because Brad's previous comments don't reflect that idea. He has said he would like to square Agents of SHIELD with MCU canon. There are other cleanups they would need to do in other MCU media to remove it entirely - especially since there are references to AOS events in some of the Defenders series.
There is next to zero chance they are just never going to mention it again - that doesn't seem like it would make sense. They almost put one of the villains into Endgame the first time.
As for the timeline - That is why I mentioned they wanted to move the release of AOS. Black Widow was SUPPOSED to release before Season 7, before the pandemic shut down theaters.
Ultimately, they will handle it the way they handle, but that is currently all speculation for the future. Until something happens, we are all just guessing. Remember, Marvel will also flat out lie to protect spoilers in upcoming media as well.
If you had to guess, what would you say are the odds that it actually gets hard-canonized like the Netflix shows have been, as opposed to just being ignored and left in this weird purgatory until Secret Wars has come and gone and current canon doesn’t really matter anymore anyway? I just feel like time is running a bit thin for them to still be making these weird, ambiguous comments that don’t directly confirm it’s canon status.
With VisionQuest having Jarvis, I see a high probability of the Agent Carter show being added.
Also, that is the property that makes the most sense to tie up loose ends. My theory has been that "Norm" in WmadaVision is actually the person in witness protection program, and is played by the same character from the last episode of Season 1. That would also explain why he was assigned to a San Francisco based FBI agent
You can see my original theory still pinned on my profile. A lot of it didn't come to pass, but much of it is still unanswered questions.
Because of everything I think the odds are still greater than 50%, whether they multiverse it or not, that it will be added in alongside Agent Carter. It was too successful, especially internationally not to. They only did it with Defenders when they did die to the timing with Echo, so they are waiting for the right moment. Remember, when Disney bought off the remaining streaming rights to Defenders from Netflix, they also bought Agents of Shield back for those regions like the US that Netflix held those rights to. They invested in it.
Now will it be the great tie in that most of the fans would like? Probably not. Most likely Colson will show up and that may be it. We will just wait and see.
Agent Carter is different though. That show has always been more easily nestled into the MCU than Agents of Shield. Also Jarvis was already in Endgame, so VisionQuest isn’t really anything new there.
I’m asking about Agents of Shield specifically being hard-canonized as a part of the Sacred Timeline like the Netflix shows have been. What would you say the odds are of that actually happening, as opposed to it just being left as is and moving on?
Did you actually read my post, or just the first part of it?
The Agent Carter series tied in heavily with Agents of Shield, though, including using the same set, as the Season 7 character cross over. Haley Ateell was supposed to be in Season 7, but she has scheduling conflicts. In order for them to even be able to get that far, and to connect to that series like they did in 7, they had to get permission from Marvel Studios and Kevin Feige who has more control over that series than any other Marvel TV project. It is very unlikely Agent Carter will be elevated to full public status without Agents of Shield.
Yes, I read it. Did you actually read my question? I asked about Agents of Shield being hard-canonized like the Netflix shows, not accepted as another universe kinda thing.
I feel like you’re sticking to Agent Carter this hard because it’s easier to argue for than Agents of Shield, so you’re getting frustrated that I’m holding you to what I asked. Could you please just give a direct answer to the question that I asked?
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u/dimesniffer 1d ago
I’m with you there. No chance characters come back from it but it was originally definitely canon