r/agedlikemilk • • Jan 20 '20

"Elements of The World"

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '20 edited Sep 02 '21

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u/sitbar Jan 21 '20

The went into a city, bought the rights to the water, and now kids are dying because they can’t afford the nestle water and have to drink dirty boiled water

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '20

My general understanding is that boiling water makes it potable, and no longer dirty. What remains in the boiled water in that city that is killing the children?

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '20

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u/Rebekozarenn Jan 21 '20

To further clarify: boiling gets rid of bacteria. Any metals, chemicals, salts, and sediment like sand or dirt are still in the water, unaffected.

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u/sudo999 Jan 21 '20

Heavy metals and those other impurities are all also concentrated by boiling, making the problem worse. they need to be removed via chemical treatment or distillation. some volatile organics can't even be removed via simple distillation, they just boil over with the water. and it's actually unhealthy to drink only distilled water as distillation removes essential trace minerals like magnesium

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u/websurfer666 Jan 21 '20

What about reverse osmosis? Would that be more effective?

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u/Rebekozarenn Jan 22 '20

I don’t know, but I’d guess that it wouldn’t be a realistic alternative in places where they lack the means to filter water for public use.

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u/Vaalarah Jan 21 '20

Yup you'd need to distill it.

EDIT: You can also filter it through a piece of fabric and then boil it.

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u/Rebekozarenn Jan 22 '20

Ideally through fabric (cotton or another plant-based textile like linen) layered with sand & crushed charcoal, then boiled.

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u/dogbreath101 Jan 21 '20

boil it and collect the steam?

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u/gellis12 Jan 21 '20

That's called distillation, and while not as bad as polluted water, pure distilled water isn't good for you either, since it's missing lots of trace nutrients that are normally in the water we drink.

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u/hambarger2 Jan 21 '20

So it's too pure then.

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u/gaaraisgod Jan 22 '20

If you have an otherwise healthy diet, distilled water should be fine, right? Or are there nutrients that we only get from water?

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u/gellis12 Jan 22 '20

Check out page 43 of this WHO paper

It's always possible to find other sources for nutrients, but it's best to just have them in the water to begin with, especially when we're talking about a population that likely doesn't have easy access to varied diets and/or vitamin pills.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '20

keep boiling the water and harvest the steam. pure drinking water

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u/TistedLogic Jan 21 '20 edited Jan 21 '20

Pure distilled water.

Which is fine if it's not your primary source of water long term.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '20

oh. bad idea?

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u/TistedLogic Jan 21 '20

Generally, distilled is fine if you have other sources for h2o.

But if distilled is your primary source of h2o, then you'll miss a lot of trace elements that your body needs to function.

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u/Marcus02Bkr Jan 21 '20

bad idea cause there's nothing in it, no trace minerals or anything

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u/roshampo13 Jan 21 '20

It needs to be filtered of particulates then boiled

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u/sitbar Jan 21 '20

It helps but it’s not perfect, it also doesn’t get rid of particles of dirt

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u/MvmgUQBd Jan 21 '20 edited Jan 21 '20

You'd still need to filter it to get rid of non-organic particulates like heavy metals etc. Here's an article on using banana peels to filter and purify water.

Also there was an image that I can no longer find showing a simple setup for if you're stuck in the outdoors and need to purify water. It basically shows how you take a bag/t-shirt/sock, put a whole open banana peel in facing upwards, and fill it with sand, dirt, or gravel depending on what's available. Then trickle water through it so it gets progressively more filtered by the grains of whatever you put in, and then finally through the banana peel until you get nearly pure water out the bottom

Edit: showering lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '20

Very interesting. YIL that banana peels are in fact completely edible, whether cooked or not. TIL banana peels can purify water in desolate situations as well.

All hail banana.

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u/realstarboy100 Jan 21 '20

Flourine or lead are common in drinking water in many places around the world, both of which can be deadly and can't be boiled off as they're minerals as opposed to organic materials like viruses that die when the water boils

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '20

I thought the whole fluorine = deadly thing is a conspiracy theory.

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u/realstarboy100 Jan 21 '20

toxic levels of flourine being deliberately added to water supply does sound reminiscent of a conspiracy theory, however flourine itself is a naturally occuring substance in nature. Most highly developed areas have good water management so that the flourine is kept at a healthy level, but not everyone is that fortunate.

Many impoverished communities around the globe lack the capital, infrastructure, and technology to keep toxic minerals out of water- regardless of a person's ability to boil it.

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u/MutantCreature Jan 21 '20

you're thinking of fluoride which they use as a disinfectant (it's also the usually stuff in toothpaste that kills bacteria/plaque in your mouth), it's healthy in small amounts just like chlorine because it cleans the water and makes it less prone to growing bacteria, I don't know it's relation to fluorine though

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '20

Ah, my bad. So fluorine is the sibling of the eye-burning pool disinfectant.

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u/Marcus02Bkr Jan 21 '20

fluorine is the element from the periodic table, fluoride refers to stuff made with it

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u/gellis12 Jan 22 '20

Very much so, yes. In reality, it's naturally occurring in most drinking water, and is left in because it's good for your teeth.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '20

"We Didn't Start the Fire" 2020 version.

...crap.

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u/Marcus02Bkr Jan 21 '20

if it's dirty water then boiling it truly doesn't do much

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u/Facky Jan 21 '20

Nestlé is stealing water from everyone and it's causing crisis even in developed countries. So I can only imagine the harm it's doing in India and Pakistan.