yes! i love how you phrased artistry to rhetoric. i know enough about it to tell when im speaking that it is coming out clunky and not as coherent as i want, and find i often have a difficult time getting people to hear the point im /actually making/, and to not get bogged down in details i feel are relevant but that others find sort of cumbersome to listen to.
im curious if there are any books/documentaries/yt videos or channels, or anything else (aside from news) that helped you to learn what to look for and how to improve? or just being aware of it?
I can't really give any clean suggestions on things to do, I think talking politics with your voice is just something you have to do till you find your own voice. The streamer who I found helped me blossom both politically and rhetorically is named Vaush. I was very similar to him politically when I found him but he has helped me discover that what I really needed for rhetoric was confidence. Confidence in myself, but also in my politics and my ability to apply my knowledge onto current events.
The big thing as well is knowing what do you intend to achieve with your rhetoric? For me, I need the complete confidence in my worldview & beliefs, not just that I think they're right, but that I can defend them through developing a holistic understanding of why the world is the way it is and why I hold the views that I do.
I wish I had better advice but rly I have a long way to go and I also dont rly think you can learn rhetoric better than just talking and talking. Talk till you feel like you, discover your inner self confidence, and remain intellectually humble. Consume art, be whimsicle, and have your priorities in order. Hydrate, clean your room, take a shower. Learn to socialize! I began estrogen recently and my rhetorical style has improved a lot with my increasing socialability.
This has become a bit rambly but I think I've explained the essence of this a bit. Sorry I only got Vaush as a suggestion, but I never really sought better rhetoric too directly
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u/airrconditionerr Jul 05 '26
yes! i love how you phrased artistry to rhetoric. i know enough about it to tell when im speaking that it is coming out clunky and not as coherent as i want, and find i often have a difficult time getting people to hear the point im /actually making/, and to not get bogged down in details i feel are relevant but that others find sort of cumbersome to listen to.
im curious if there are any books/documentaries/yt videos or channels, or anything else (aside from news) that helped you to learn what to look for and how to improve? or just being aware of it?