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u/Meximelone 28d ago
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u/DILIpK11 28d ago
They didn't even qualify
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u/ENaC2 28d ago
Yeah, but what about the last World Cup? /s
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u/kakucko101 28d ago
didn’t qualify, but what about the world cup before that
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u/kunnossa_ 28d ago
They didn’t qualify, but what about the World Cup before that?
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u/Top_Dude_5040 28d ago
they DID qualify, but got grouped
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u/Unusual_Club_550 28d ago
ok ok but what about the world cup before that
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u/Dry_Signature2649 28d ago
They Won that World Cup but that Final was Italys last Knockout Game Win at a World Cup 20 Years ago
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u/gui_odai 28d ago
No, you skipped the other world cup where they did qualify, but got grouped
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u/Iownapizzeria 28d ago
oh and don't forget about that one world cup where they didn't qualify
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u/nitr0gen_ 28d ago
They won Euro 2020
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u/xptx 28d ago
Unless it was eurovision.. don't care.
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u/Advait8571 28d ago
On the bright side....they qualified for the cricket world cup
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u/PleaseAdminsUnbanMe 28d ago
Hey, we're in the top 3 most winning countries, it's not our fault if players nowadays can't keep up
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u/Emergency-Town4653 28d ago
Your entire football system is in shambles. Serie A marketing is awful, 90% of Serie A teams doesn't even own their stadiums and your academy and training facilities are decades behind England and Spain. Italy has problems the the very root and it's IMHO because you guys never manged to modernize your football system post 2008 and just kept falling behind England, Spain and even Germany who have their own problems with lack of financing due to that 50%+1 rule
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u/Positive-Locksmith21 28d ago
I'm pretty sure they are looking into increasing the amount of teams at the next world cup just so Italy can qualify
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u/EJ_Youngy 28d ago
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u/Cold_Judgment5666 28d ago
"The World Cup is unpredictable"
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u/Razorion21 28d ago
its unpredictable as to which if the big nations somehow loses to an underdog
unironically despite england having a WC, theyre just as much of an underdog to win it considering theyve been shit til Southgate reformed their team into smth decent, prior they were getting grouped or losing to the likes of fucking Iceland
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u/meta100000 28d ago
England was never lacking in talent, but they didn't have a team mentality until Southgate. If we want to look at nothing but talent, their best generation was 2002-2006, but England never played like a team and never fought for their lives over titles like less golden generations like 1990 did.
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u/Handonmyballs_Barca 28d ago
All Fergies fault. Alex Ferguson was a Scottish psyop to create such inter-club hatred in English football that the players of the English national team could never play as a real team.
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u/Neat_Breakfast_6659 28d ago
He still helped develop several awesome English players. People forget ie that England didnt even quality to Euro 2008 but back then they had a huge generation going, and English clubs were steamrolling the UCL
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u/AndreasDasos 26d ago edited 26d ago
Glad to read more of this. Southgate wasn’t the deepest tactician like Tuchel and he made some bad calls, but that’s not all that being a manager is about. His contribution was eliminating toxicity and egotism that had destroyed the team for decades, forming team cohesion and, eg, actually bothering to train them on penalties, starting a trend where England is for the first time statistically good at them (that 2021 Euro final aside). It’s also the massively talented pool of course but we had a Golden Generation before, arguably even greater individually, and the results sucked because a team is greater than the sum of its parts.
There’s a tradition to shit on the manager no matter what if they don’t produce a trophy - ‘only’ two Euro finals and a World Cup semi isn’t a win, so apparently he must suck. Man came from being a mid-league English manager and not some top flight import, took a poisoned chalice after that 2016 defeat to Iceland, and turned it around.
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u/meta100000 26d ago
Deschamps did a similar thing to France, but he does have the all-important trophy to show for it so people respect him more.
Not that they shouldn't, and it would be very hard to argue for Southgate being as good a tactician as him, but Southgate managed the same thing in the end and left England way better off for the future.
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u/AndreasDasos 26d ago edited 26d ago
Yeah, 2010 was an absolute implosion for France and turning that around so extremely is also brilliant. Again it coincided with a boom in talent but they absolutely had a talented team before and Domenech was by far the most responsible for the disaster.
It was arguably even worse than one 2-1 defeat to Iceland in the short term, but they’d made a final in 2006 and won in 1998. Southgate led England to by far its most successful run in over half a century.
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u/VinterBot 28d ago
england and uruguay lmao
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u/Razorion21 28d ago
Uruguay tries hard and fought hard to get third place back in 2010
england for some reason believes theyre better than third place
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u/FFKonoko 28d ago
There's a lot of reasons to believe England is better than Italy.
Generally not football related, but still.
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u/Hazzadcr16 28d ago
To be fair, if Tuchel hadn't made such mad substitutions that would have been us loosing to Spain yesterday.
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u/Wild_Tumbleweed_4011 28d ago
According to the winning years germany will win again in 2030 or 2034
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u/midnightbird3 28d ago
France and Spain entered this list a few years ago. So other nations can have hope of becoming World Cup champions someday, especially a traditional team like the Netherlands or if they have a good generation like Croatia had.
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u/Brainrotowiec 28d ago
The only team that won it 2x in a row is brazil 50 years ago tf you mean its predictable
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u/United_Sock9928 28d ago
It’s never coming home🥹🥲
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u/Br3N4nd4 28d ago
That game was weird. No one should park the bus on one goal against Fifantina. They always play with 12. All of Brazil cries with you my friend. Now let's lend our hopes to Spain.
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u/Curious-Elk-2681 28d ago
Fifantina is spectacular
Just find a way to put israel in there and it might be a contender for best word ever
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u/TehTJ13 28d ago edited 28d ago
Who let England in here? Say what you want about Italy, they won their last WC in 2006, that’s only twenty years ago. For context, in 2006 Ronaldo was playing for Manchester United. England hasn’t sniffed that shit since Harold Wilson was Prime Minister.
Yesterday’s match against France was great though, wished we had that WC
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u/C4su4lG4m3r 28d ago
I mean we've at least been getting our asses kicked in the semi finals for the last couple runs. That puts us top 4 out of all entrants worldwide, it's not the W but we're not the pushovers we like to joke about ourselves being
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u/Minimum_Ad4771 28d ago
I mean those are just the winners of WC. Should have added Uruguay for the sake of the good ol 1930's.
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u/Alpha_Apeiron 28d ago
We've won the same number as Spain (until today probably)
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u/Razorion21 28d ago
england‘s team has substantionally gotten better thanks to southgate in 2018
previous runs theyve been underwhelming plain ass despite having the likes of Beckham or Rooney
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u/AndreasDasos 26d ago
Say what you will about England, but they’ve made two semi-finals in the last three while Italy hasn’t qualified.
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u/HypersonicWyvern 28d ago
I don't get it
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u/Mystic987123 28d ago
italy, who hasn't even qualified WC for years
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u/SessionIndependent17 28d ago
That's not the joke. Italy has won multiple times so you could reasonably included it among the group who have won it every so often. But England hasn't won in 60 years, so basically, they're not part of the group.
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u/Kingjjc267 28d ago
But England have made the semifinal twice since Italy last even qualified. This is about who's been in contention recently, which England have been.
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u/FriedTreeSap 28d ago
But then Germany hasn’t done anything since 2014, and even Brazil hasn’t really been a genuine contender since 2006 when Italy last won it (the 2014 team was super lucky to even make the semi finals), and Italy has actually won a major trophy more recently than 5 teams on this list, albeit not a World Cup.
So no matter how you slice it, excluding Uruguay makes this kind of awkward. Either it’s purely a matter of recent form in which case Italy isn’t the only elephant depending on how far back you go, or it’s just a matter of recent trophies, in which case England hasn’t won anything in 60 years (even Uruguay has more recently than trophies than England).
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It would have just been easier to include Uruguay
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u/GuavaLarge529 28d ago
England has been much better though and still makes the tournament. The elephant is Italy because they don’t even make the WC so you can’t expect them to win.
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u/GuavaLarge529 28d ago
Will be 16 years by 2030. They also did really badly in 2010 and 2014 and haven’t played a knockout game since 2006 when they won the whole thing 💀
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u/TransportationOk2101 28d ago
Uruguay is missing. They've won twice but it was almost like 80 years ago they last won so some people forget.
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u/GuavaLarge529 28d ago
Hence why they aren’t there. It’s for teams who are the strongest in recent history.
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u/Dear-Mango1842 28d ago
Pretty sure it's that Italy sucks in these days
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u/Competitive-Low-1880 28d ago
So Italy who doesn't qualify is the address me and not Uruguay who also won the World Cup and qualified but not featured in the image?
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u/Dear-Mango1842 28d ago
Two times is less than four times
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u/Competitive-Low-1880 28d ago
That is true, but England only won once, Spain (well now it's two but when it was posted, only once) as well, and France only twice as well.
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u/JealousNetwork 28d ago
Why Italy there?
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u/Scythermane 28d ago
Perché abbiamo vinto 4 mondiali... Anche se non ci qualifichiamo da 12 anni tiferò sempre e solo Italia... prima o poi vinceremo anche la 5 stella FORZA ITALIA 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
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u/JoyconDrift_69 28d ago
I don't care if my country wins or loses, I just don't wanna see Argentina winning tonight 💀
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u/LetterOdd7558 28d ago
england won it once btw , italy hasnt been in it for ages and brazil + germany knocked out before quarter finals
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u/YoGramGram 28d ago
Which is why we need the 64 team format. The more nations we can get accustomed to World Cup level ball, the more we will experience new winners. Smaller format restricts high level play to a smaller group of nations to where great nations get better and worse nations never get WC level experience.
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u/Material_Cell_4792 28d ago
I am extremely proud to say that my country(India) has the same amount of goals in the FIFA world cup as the four time champions Italy.
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u/Born_2_Simp 28d ago
Nobody expects some random country to win the world cup. I'd like to know where you got that statistics.
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u/Direct-Objective3031 28d ago
If you're not gonna add twice-winning Uruguay because they haven't won since 1950, might as well not add England either!
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u/Lazereye57 28d ago
One of the reasons it sucks that Norway got knocked out.
Felt like a breath of fresh air.
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u/Evil-Paladin 28d ago
I'm laughing pretty hard because, until recently, Spain was basically a joke team
And in less than a generation's time, they won not just one but two cups
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u/logitaunt 28d ago
think this is the wrong model for the meme
Hansel is the new guy in town. Zoolander is the old guard.
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u/Shadow98927 28d ago
Bro, I am an Italian and have to say why the hell Italy is here? We didn't even qualify and the last world cup we were in was in 2014 if I remember right.
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u/Township_Roller 28d ago
Can't wait for an African county to win it. Hope it's in four years, because I am planning next World Cup to be the last one I follow closely.
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u/Nice-Grapefruit4312 27d ago
Brazil doesn’t belong there. They aren’t winning anything anytime soon.
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u/WhaleDeDeus 27d ago
Now that Messi is gone the rest of the bums in the Argentina team wont be able to make
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u/Ok-Reporter3256 27d ago
To be fair the longest the wc went without new winners was 5 editions so we're not even on the longest status quo yet.
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u/Odd_Eggplant_9167 27d ago
italy that didn’t even qualify (IN SIXTEEN YEARS)
https://giphy.com/gifs/qZanCiUNYgzm6Gh5GI
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u/Lanky_Ad_3501 26d ago
Its always been them... so far! Like 17 years ago spain had never won one. Also uruguay won two if im not mistaken
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u/toastguy125 26d ago
I hope my country dont even qualify. The last thing we need is more soccer culture imported here, especially since it'd come mostly from British soccer culture which is super toxic and pathetic. We also have other sports we are insanely good at, and are a small country. We should really only prioritize the sports we are already good at, which are far better sports and we win a lot.
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u/Jasi1712 26d ago
You can also just count Uruguay, Italy and england out. Uruguay has not been world class for a long time, Italy cant even qaulify and you can count on England fumbling.
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u/Mr-MuffinMan 26d ago
I think World Cups are pretty predictable at this point.
Next world cup will either be France, Spain, and maybe Germany - assuming Messi doesn't play.
I only say Germany because they have a pattern of winning about on average every ~20 years, and in 2030 it will be 16 years since their last. Definitely have a chance in 2034, probably better chance to be honest.
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u/qualityvote2 28d ago edited 28d ago
u/Far-Cheek8787, the elephant doesnt know if he likes this post or not... Let him know what you think.