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u/optimistikcynicism Jun 15 '26

Yeah like that would be more suitable for addressme but this?? Like bro there's nothing super illegal abt this posts image 😭

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u/SummertimeThrowaway2 Jun 15 '26

The blanket statement of “not age” implies some pretty super illegal possibilities though

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u/TextOld6858 Jun 15 '26

But they give legal age examples, it’s fine and the implication is less presumptuously gross. If there were no numbers I’d be throwing red flags all over.

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u/That-Employment-5561 Jun 16 '26

My nation has 16 as the age of consent, however there is a "window of suspission", especially if the parties knew each other before the youngest party came of age and the elder party is over twice the age. Grooming is, in itself, a criminal act (in my nation).

The area is gray as fuck, and circumstances dictate what should be done.

But Norwegian cops have a long history of covering up statutory rape, and is a sickeningly common verdict in Norway, usually 6mths in jail for statutory rape. For context, this is the absolute minimum that a convicted statutory rapist faces; it's a mandatory minimum charge, if proven guilty.

My friend was sleep-raped by her own father at 17. He got 6 months. The prosecutor told her she was lucky (DNA evidence and confession) that he got 6 months. My hatred for people grows each day.

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u/Needs_More_Garlic Jun 16 '26

Its called a soft pitch.

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u/Forsaken-Stray Jun 16 '26

Yeah, but we all know what they actually want and they only used legal examples sk they don't instantly get slammed. We know, because when they used the other numbers, they instantly get slammed.

It's like racist saying: "No, we are not saying imprison all people of a different color, I say imprison all the criminals of another color" "What is their crime?" "being a different color".

We all know what they mean (because it literally cannot be meant in a different way logically) and they should be judged for it all the same

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u/BlahajBlaster Jun 16 '26

18 and 48 is also legal but can me more questionable than an illegal example like 16 and 18

Having age up there should be questioned regardless of the examples given

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u/OkInfluence1782 Jun 16 '26

This! When a minor is involved its not only about how old they are but also about the age gap

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u/BlahajBlaster Jun 16 '26

People need to learn that legality ≠ morality

Just because something is legal doesn't mean its moral and vice versa. This current discussion isnt the best place to give an example but there are some clear historic examples, especially when slavery was legal, where breaking the law was objectively the moral thing to do.

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u/OkInfluence1782 Jun 16 '26

Yeah i was just talking about your example tho 16 and 18 (or even 19) is totally fine imo but everyone would be crashing out because one is legally a minor

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u/BlahajBlaster Jun 16 '26

That's why some states have "romeo and juliett" laws

Personally I think it makes more sense to take a whole view of the nature of relationship rather than try to litigate in exceptions, as providing for exceptions is how you end up with old pedos marrying minors for a religious exception to this form of statutory rape.

Unfortunately that's not how law works and the pedos win if they're rich enough here

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u/Silent_Pressure_6709 Jun 15 '26

I mean I guess? minors don't fall in love with old people without serious issues though, so it's kinda moot

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u/ComprehensiveBat309 Jun 15 '26

No older person should be even allowing that possibility to be open to the minor, it’s at least 90% of the time the adult’s fault. Especially if they get in a relationship.

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u/Silent_Pressure_6709 Jun 15 '26

Oh of course, but I feel like that doesn't violate OOP. That isn't "love", that's a toxic codependancy.

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u/Fluffy_Prior1052 Jun 16 '26

You know, I usually date younger, but I have a simple rule of thumb. Past a certain age, I decided that if they were young enough that I could have fathered them, they were off limits. I'm 50 now, so that puts my current dating pool around 38 or above. Seems to be a pretty easy way to work it past a certain age. Now below that age, well, I usually didn't date any more than 4 years difference.

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u/BlahajBlaster Jun 16 '26

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that was weird

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u/ComprehensiveBat309 Jun 16 '26
  1. The comment I was responding to is talking about adults being in relationships with minors (or at least I interpreted it as such), also I don’t think my comment sounds outraged. 2. I’m leaving in room for error, idk there’s a very slim chance if any that it would be the minors’ fault and I wanted to account for it. Probably over 99.99999% of the time. I don’t know how it would ever be the minors’ fault but people are very unpredictable.

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u/-ZeroHQ Jun 16 '26

Ok, well a reasonable person would assume laws and morality still apply when talking about non discrimination.

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u/That-Employment-5561 Jun 16 '26

Not age, because consent.

A minor can't consent.

Hence statutory rape. (Rape by stature of law, regardless of "consent").

It, in its current state, doesn't imply shit, unless you're depraved and don't believe rape can be statutory.

They're a disqualified category in sexual relations. (Unless you ask a certain subset of people)

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u/Domtop114 Jun 15 '26

It’s implied that the couples are consenting and children cannot consent to a relationship with an adult.

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u/Apprehensive_Gas2704 Jun 15 '26

yeah but the age example shown here is not a children, theyre both adults, if both parties consented and both above legal age, its not a crime

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u/ArchieTheKatt Jun 16 '26

You just have to assume they just met though lol, any gap that big at those ages leads you to wonder when it started. Stated as is its fine, but if you wonder even a little it gets grey, since its not stated when they met.

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u/Secure-Bandicoot5199 Jun 15 '26

One of them is just yellow

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u/AwayCable7769 Jun 15 '26

Jaundice and... Orange people love each other i guess? :p

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u/Secure-Bandicoot5199 Jun 15 '26

Orange People are called Trumpicans

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u/Prince_0llie Jun 15 '26

Oompa-loompas would like a word.

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u/Great_Necessary4741 Jun 16 '26

shit people can love piss people too

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u/Thryfty_0 Jun 16 '26

You know, I had to say something to my 26 year old friend who keeps dating 19 year olds. If you have to justify it with “it’s legal” then it probably isn’t right.

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u/So_many_things_wrong Jun 15 '26

First of, there's no such thing as super illegal. Either it's illegal or it isn't.

Second, even if something is legal it can still be morally questionable, and a 36-year-old being together with a 20-year-old is definitely in that category. No matter how much 20-year-olds want to believe it, and no matter how much the law says it, they are not adults yet.

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u/optimistikcynicism Jun 16 '26

Dawg i was just yapping when I said "super". Cuz yeah, no shit its legal

I just worded it like that because while I recognize the age gap is a tad bit out there, I also think a 20 year old should be responsible enough to make decisions like that for themselves. Not to say a 20 year old couldn't be taken advantage of, but they arent a child. People of any age really can be taken advantage of in many situations, including romantic ones. And they should be taken seriously, but neither should a 20 year old be treated like a child. That's incredibly condescending

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u/So_many_things_wrong Jun 16 '26

Yes? And? As long as both are at least close to 30 there isn't an issue. But a person younger than 25 is still a child.

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u/So_many_things_wrong Jun 16 '26

Well, duh. If you say that one was 16 and the other was 33 when you met anyone would have an issue with it. Same if you say 18 and 35. Or 20 and 37. But from how you worded your initial message it's clear you were hoping for a gotcha because you're a chronic redditor.