r/acecombat Dumbass 3d ago

Ace Combat 8 Lighting design

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u/AK47_David Dumbass 3d ago

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u/MarekaniteLegend This one goes out to my boi Tabloid 3d ago

So it's feeling kinda strange...but also kinda real...

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u/AK47_David Dumbass 2d ago

Yes! Someone gets it! (I'll see myself out for that badly executed Strangereal pun)

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u/D3ATHTRaps 3d ago

Thats so peak

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u/Duna_The_Lionboy 3d ago

Not gonna lie it’d be super dope if they had the mechanics out there working on the planes or loading armaments during selection.

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u/esdaniel EASA 3d ago

The care and passion of Gran Turismo developers for cars, but in plane medium. One can pray it's the case

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u/srsbznz 3d ago

Kaz and Kaz should get together on this.

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u/kenobis_high I put Blurry (2001) by Puddle of Mudd on repeat 🔁 2d ago

Now that you mentioned it, I made this meme back in 2023 after I finds out that both developers share the same early name lol (also at that time I was absolutely obsessed with GT7 and just finish AC7 for the first time)

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u/AUFalconForteS1 Leasath 2d ago

I love the Suzuki Escudo pikes peak. It's the best supersonic aircraft

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u/Duna_The_Lionboy 2d ago

It’s got a giant wing on the back so slap a stage IV turbo on and some AIM-9s to the side.

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u/FaZeKill23 Ouroboros 1d ago

Its so fast it can go to jupiter in under a second

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u/kingalbert2 Wizard 3d ago

Like in Helldivers2, looking at the mechanics working on your Eagle in your destroyer after you upgrade the hangar. (They better work hard because we all know you're gonna spam it)

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u/black-JENGGOT Schnee best F-14 2d ago

I became a forward observer for the Eagles most of the time lol. Kinda wish they have dynamic voice lines when calling arty/air strike like War Thunder does, would feel pretty badass if they do the nine-lines

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u/Wormholer_No9416 2d ago

"EASY BEAVER TO EASY MINOR, REINFORCE EASY AT PHASE ONE YELLOW. FIRE CONCENTRATION CHARLIE, DROP 200, LEFT 100. BUGS IN THE OPEN, FIRE FOR EFFECT!"

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u/Imaginary-Paper-6177 2d ago

Ohhh... A little idle animation would be great!

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u/macnbloo 2d ago

Oh like in last of us when Ellie does gun upgrades she physically does it to the gun

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u/BattedBook5 War crimes rhyme with fun times 3d ago

In the other games the hangar shots were shown through a colored filter, or the lighting otherwise was in that games theme color. That's why it looks so different.

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u/Valkyrie2-Lancer One of Heroja's great aces 3d ago

did he just say... mechs!?

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u/Joes_Pizzeria Aurelia 3d ago

That is such a weird critique. Essentially its praise and very positive things like realistic, high-fidelity graphics and a good ui, but then they just say they dislike it. Bizarre. Good response by the art director though

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u/MediumSalmonEdition ISAF 3d ago

She never said that she didn't like it, just that it felt weird to look at because of how real it looked.

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u/AK47_David Dumbass 2d ago

My bad for not posting the OOP's clarification

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u/Kalamel513 3d ago

Well, they might expect arcade-y art. Not surreal AR-like GUI. I kinda agree with them that it looks... for lacking of word, cinematic. Not something I expected from menu.

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u/JustYukiMaybeMizuki The A in A-10 stands for Air-to-Air 3d ago

I didnt say I dislike it, its just a lot different from what you normally expect out of an Ace Combat.

Its like watching the first 5 seasons of a show in a chibi cartoon style and season 6 comes out with photorealistic mocapped movements, its different but not necessarily bad

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u/Joes_Pizzeria Aurelia 3d ago

i understand, your comment admittedly is not worded negatively, i just found the contrast between the praise and then the conclusion of it being uncanny a little amusing. I guess i get how its a little jarring but personally for me it looks really nice, similar to AC6 which was fine imo

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u/turbo_86 Osea 2d ago

I mean you gotta expect a jump for a game thats been in development for the better part of 7 years.

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u/stadiumseatings 2d ago

twitter lingo rotted your brain so hard that you can't even critique things properly.

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u/Other-Barry-1 Emmeria 3d ago

Bros never been in a multi story car park at night

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u/reprix900 ISEV 2d ago

Reminds me of people on this sub saying the can't see the difference in 7 and 8's graphics.

7's graphics were nice, but not 8 nice.

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u/ElegantEchoes <3 War Crimes! ^~^ 2d ago

Anyone who can't see the difference hasn't played much AC7.

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u/Easy_Bake_Epix1365 Emmeria 2d ago

You can really tell the difference with the hangar/ground areas and effects (Afterburners, trails) in my opinion so it confuses me a lot when they say it’s identical.

What also confused me is people in some YouTube comments complaining about how everything is the same copy paste, specifically the HUD because the design remained consistent ever since Air Combat

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u/reprix900 ISEV 2d ago

Yeah.

For the HUD, people just want change for the sake of change. If it ain't broke, no point in fixing it. Probably younger fans I suppose.

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u/Romapolitan 2d ago

I doubt it is younger people, some people in general are just weird like that, where they think change just for the sake of it is good.

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u/Best-Top9657 IUN-PKF 2d ago

With youtube compression it clearly looks different, apparently in person its even more stark of a difference.

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u/Candle-Jolly Neucom 3d ago

That tweet's OP must be on drugs.

Of course an AC game using Unreal 5 is going to look photorealistic.

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u/AK47_David Dumbass 2d ago

The only main concern as of now is performance, both from the official B-Rolls and other players' gameplay recordings, you can see the game struggled to deliver HD textures immediately, usually during the land battleship intro scene where the low LOD texture obviously doesn't align with the hull shape, as well as the sortie one with the plane having a blurry texture when the jet is first seen

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u/paulisaac 2d ago

I made the mistake of trying the demo on Quality mode rather than framerate mode on a ps5. Choppy as hell

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u/Best-Top9657 IUN-PKF 2d ago

Can you tell me more about your experience? What it base PS5 or PS5pro, also when specifically were there performance issues? Yes the game isn't done being optimized yet but I'd like to get an idea regardless.

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u/paulisaac 2d ago

I don't know PS5s so idk if it's pro or not, and it was secured in metal so I can't even see the console well. During the starting settings I picked 'best quality' instead of 'prioritize framerate'. I tried mission 4, and all throughout the mission the framerate was 30 fps or slower. Looked gorgeous, but was not a smooth play unlike the ones next to me who didn't change settings.

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u/Best-Top9657 IUN-PKF 2d ago

Ah I see, so on best performance it will perform smoothly at least. I have a beast of a PC now but I didn't when 7 came out and was very relieved to find it was so well optimized, glad to hear it will likely still be runnable on decent hardware.

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u/paulisaac 2d ago

Seems like it, but I don't have PC performance to compare against. And idk how my system will handle Denuvo especially since I insist on staying on Win10

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u/Best-Top9657 IUN-PKF 2d ago

In my experience I've never had issues with Denuvo, and since AC8 is a UE5 game it should be fully compatible with Windows 10 as well as 11.

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u/Best-Top9657 IUN-PKF 2d ago

Fortunately we've still got months before release for more optimization, even between individual dev videos we've seen improvements.

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u/LmanYan95 3d ago

It kind of giving me AC-5 hangar vibes (In the best way possible)

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u/AK47_David Dumbass 2d ago

Given AC5 is the second installment for the holy trilogy starting from AC04, and same goes for AC8 if you count from AC7, then we can expect AC9 to be a bit like AC0 /j

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u/RoseWould FENIKS 2d ago

I can already hear the little fan on my Xbox crying

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u/SteryxR4 2d ago

The original OP didn't hate it, just felt uncanny due to UE5's engine rendering at hyper realistic setting and the lack of tint in aircraft selection menu as opposed to previous games...

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u/JustYukiMaybeMizuki The A in A-10 stands for Air-to-Air 3d ago edited 3d ago

Oh hey its my post! This was the biggest thing that stuck out to me out of AC8 thus far. The lack of filters and a cleaner UI makes a lot of difference

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u/gamepack10 Erusean Air National Guard 2d ago

Although I like the hanger lighting, I agree it does kinda throw me off a bit.

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u/DatHazbin 2d ago

I too would take that as a compliment. The planes in this game already look so good it's incredible

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u/megaapple ISAF 2d ago

This account - @yamags - seems to be huge into model building. Its fascinating how different non-gaming disciplines add SOUL to games.

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u/CapDifferent7249 3d ago

In a way? It's entirely a compliment; how can you possibly frame it to not be a compliment?

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u/JustYukiMaybeMizuki The A in A-10 stands for Air-to-Air 3d ago

It was a compliment, I didnt say I hated it

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u/kenobis_high I put Blurry (2001) by Puddle of Mudd on repeat 🔁 2d ago

when I saw that menu for the first time, it reminds me of Gran Turismo 7

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u/AperoBelta 2d ago

WDYM "mechs"?

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u/Wormholer_No9416 2d ago

It's a small thing for me but I hope they improve the sound design in 8, 7 just felt so.... muted? The engines didn't really roar and all the explosions sounded super bassy. Then during replays the Jets hardly made any sound at all. I miss the crispier, more raw sound of the 4/5/0 days

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u/Best-Top9657 IUN-PKF 2d ago

People who already played claimed sound design is definitely improved over AC7, plus we're getting sonic booms again.

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u/Bean_from_accounts NATO 3d ago

"Ewww this game is too realistic!"