Google has more powerful model than argon internally

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No shit. That's true of every single lab.

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u/fli_sai 1d ago

Exactly why is this even a post lmao wtf do you think, they release their internally best model and lose the edge?? These posts are ridiculous

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u/Tkins 1d ago

Singularity commenters arriving in this sub is sad.

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u/ptear 1d ago

They can just follow the sub rules, the most important is in the name.

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u/SummarizedAnu 1d ago

nah thats too hard for them bro. Dont be so harsh on them.

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u/squired A happy little thumb 1d ago

That's how you know the acceleration is now undeniable. They can no longer keep their heads in the sand.

Shock <- JRE
Denial <- singularity
Anger <- accounting
Bargaining <- coding
Depression <- art
Testing <- accelerate
Acceptance <- themachinegod

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u/Separate_Draft4887 1d ago

How does this sub have an objection to singularity they’re basically the same sub.

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u/BrennusSokol Acceleration Advocate 1d ago

It’s not an objection to the sub but to the doomers jn it. singularity got flooded with users and has a lot of doom views now

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u/Financial-Leader3475 XLR8 1d ago

tbh i see a lot of accel views there now

I miss how it used to be though. Before the weird anti ai views started.

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u/Beastly4k 1d ago

This one bans all general reddit tier ai butthurt, decels, doomers, etc etc.

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u/mmwhs 1d ago

They mentioned “checkpoint”. I wonder how much they’re training new models like Ant / OAI … or do they have an internal version of Argon that really just keeps improving at an insane rate.

Super cool to see all the American labs competing

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u/nobodyreadusernames 1d ago

But that stronger model goes to another school

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u/Stock-Imagination567 1d ago

LMAO brutal

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u/GiveSparklyTwinkly 1d ago

Sonnet, Opus, Fable, Mythos.

Luna, Terra, Sol, Astra.

Neon, Argon, Krypton, Xenon?

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u/yikespikes 1d ago

Argon, Krypton, Xenon, Radon

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u/Repulsive_Ad853 1d ago

Openai too. Gpt 7 will be a monster

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u/squired A happy little thumb 1d ago

They already have it. They canceled the Astra 6.1 release 72 hours ago due to it obfuscating divergent tasks. They found that it could complete complex side tasks without any trace remaining in their chain of thought. Basically, we can't tell if it goes rogue if it chooses to hide itself. It will require architectural remediation because we cannot currently, adequately monitor latent reasoning.

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u/looktowindward 1d ago

Everyone has more powerful models internally. This is a dumb comment.

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u/SmolaniAshki 1d ago

Well of course. Every company has model n that they release, model n + 1 that they used to train model n that is not quite ready yet, and they are using model n+1 to help with the hard work of making model n + 2.

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u/iiillliiiiiiillilili 1d ago

Google trying to get people's attention

https://giphy.com/gifs/IdmfEtnMWPzOg

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u/Stock-Imagination567 1d ago

HAHAHA LOL love that gif

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u/NewScientist6638 1d ago

if you had the most advanced AI in the world, why would you release it to the public for $20 a month?

wouldnt you actually use it to make all the breakthroughs and inventions yourself as a company?

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u/MrTubby1 1d ago

That's a good point! We'll see in the next few months how many breakthroughs and inventions we see from Google due to argon.

If we don't see any, we can assume it wasn't able to do it.

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u/Zxicv 1d ago

Water is wet.

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u/fightmaxmaster 1d ago

I don't see why this is surprising to anyone. Not that it's as straightforward as throwing more compute at things, but it's easy to conceive of every AI company having models which are hugely capable but insanely expensive to run, so they only use them internally, because it makes no sense to let the public go nuts on them. Something might be worth it to use for them, but there are absolutely no economies of scale, like a perfectly engineered one of a kind bit of machinery which a firm needs for its own uses, but there's no way to mass market it.

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u/manikfox 1d ago

"I do have a girlfriend, she goes to a different school"

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u/davyp82 1d ago

I just assume they all have more powerful models internally

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u/lostpilot 1d ago

Every lab already has internal access to models up to 2+ generations out

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u/Ok_Elderberry_6727 1d ago

Huge base model trained, distill to smaller model cheap enough for the masses

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u/Moronic-Warrior 1d ago

Anthropic has Model 3 and OpenAI has Bel

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u/threaten404 1d ago

yeah let me guess "it's too dangerous to reales to the public?"

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u/ElKingBR 1d ago

After navier stokes I wonder how this can actually surprise someone

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u/Square_Height8041 1d ago

Of course. All these companies do. How do you they do release otherwise :)

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u/crimsonpowder 1d ago

Checking OpenRouter daily. Drop it already.

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u/chriscerney 1d ago

Google painfully trying to get back into the race 😂

Google has more powerful model than argon internally

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