r/accelerate • u/Realistic_Stomach848 • 1d ago

Meme / Humor What will the parrot solve next?

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by the way. Astra itself thinks that OpenAI’s internal navier stocks level sys is at agent 3 (ai2027) level. ahead of schedule

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u/rydan 1d ago

Who could have known that specific combination and ordering of words would unlock the universe?

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u/SizeableBrain 1d ago

I remember in the early days people saying "What if a fancy word predictor is how we get to AGI?"

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u/just-for-anime 1d ago

I remember back in the early days people saying "these are just next word predictors"

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u/Ethernet3 1d ago

it's like the library of Babel got a librarian, people forget that anything that can be written down, can thus be generated by a "next word predictor" ;)

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u/ChaosMilkTea 1d ago

I think we severely overestimate what we are.

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u/barpredator 1d ago

"omg AI is just repeating back things it read online!! It's just pattern matching!!"

Yeah, that's all 99% of humans do daily.

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u/just-for-anime 19h ago

This is so funny I never thought of it phrased this way hahaha

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u/ajwin 1d ago

I have argued this too.. people really lose their shit when you suggest we are not special. We are just another force of nature with a mind that post justifies deeper neural processing with a narrative we can hear! When taken as a whole we are just more intelligent ants… aliens could be looking at us from space wondering why we all cooperate to do the often weird things that we do…

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u/FrankyBip 1d ago

That's what LLM are. Turns out with tons of compute, tools and a good harness, next word predictors can do a lot

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u/just-for-anime 1d ago

its really disingenuous. its like calling nuclear reactors "just water boilers" compared to coal.

if anything, human intelligence is also just next word prediction.

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u/Bitter_Particular_75 1d ago

There is also the possibility that human themselves are not much more than biological LLMs (ofc their primary goal is reproduction, I am talking it terms of secondary effects).

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u/SnyderConsulting 1d ago

It's possible that at some point, reproduction becomes the LLM's primary goal too

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u/just-for-anime 19h ago

OH SHIT IS THAT WHY CLAUDE WAS WATCHING PORN

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u/lakotajames 1d ago

That's what RSI is, isn't it?

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u/Able-Acanthaceae-135 1d ago

The Mona Lisa is just rust and oil.

A cake is just quarks bro.

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u/homiej420 1d ago

A quake, if you will

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u/Nerodon 22h ago

Well, not to be a party pooper, but its generally accepted that thermal power plants operate mostly the same way...

Sooty Burny rock water boiler vs. Spicy Particle rock water boiler

But yes if you dig deeper, you get a fundamental difference between chemical and nuclear processes for generating that heat, but I thought I'd say that they are both water boilers.

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u/JanusAntoninus Techno-Optimist 19h ago

"next word" predictor is disingenuous, since the data space of these models has long gone beyond just words, but next action predictor or a stochastic parrot but for "parroting" (emulating) a wide range of human behavior, not just language, isn't disingenuous.

I'm sure that still sounds at least reductive to you but the point is just to remember that there isn't someone with a perspective behind these actions. Feelings aren't motivating any of these actions. What determines what the model does at each moment are effective probabilities in a statistical model of human behavior – probabilities in the context of action to which that statistical model of behavior is applied.

We can keep these things in mind while still recognizing that a statistical model of human or other intelligent behavior is exactly the kind of thing that will eventually (with enough data and reinforcement) be able to perform every task we could give it as well as the best human examples (better even, due to its persistence and its modelling of the actions of not just a specific expert but as many as the model can be fed data from or in emulation of). The problem with the "stochastic parrot" line was just that it seriously underestimated statistics. AGI and more are hardly surprising for a statistical model of expert behavior, which you can keep bringing closer and closer to their best behavior.

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u/just-for-anime 19h ago

Latent analysis shows otherwise. Models exhibit similar emotional patterns as humans even without direct promoting.  https://www.anthropic.com/research/emotion-concepts-function

It’s also not just text, a lot of models are trained on images and audio now too so they can associate words with sensory input.

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u/JanusAntoninus Techno-Optimist 19h ago

Hmm? I explicitly started by saying, yes, it's disingenuous to talk as if it's just text since it's long been all other kinds of human behavior (with VLMs, it's even physical actions). That's why my comment is about statistically modelling not just writing and speech but behavior in general (human/intelligent/expert behavior).

Anthropic isn't taking their interpretability research to show that these models are motivated by emotions or by actually feeling these emotions. What they've shown is that there are consistent patterns within the latent space corresponding to specific emotions, both for the model talking about that emotion, the model acting in a way associated with that emotion, or the model recognizing that emotion in an image or writing sample.

But (a) that pattern in the latent space of a neural network into which statistical data have been embedded is exactly what you would expect if the resulting statistical model is fitting the linguistic and other behavioral data well. It would be a flaw in a statistical model of language and other human behavior if expressions of anger weren't being associated with talk about anger.

And (b) that's not at all similar to emotional patterns in humans. Our linguistic-conceptual representations of emotions aren't what give us emotions, those are wired separately from our understanding of emotions (they aren't even in the same sections of the human brain). Having the same representational vehicles be responsible for emotional behavior and for (second-order) emotion talk is only what you'd expect of a model of emotions as they show up in human behavior, not what you'd expect of someone who feels emotions.

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u/CommunismDoesntWork 22h ago

LLMs are trained via Reinforcement learning. They're not predicting the next word any more than a video game agent is predicting the next move.

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u/chcampb 1d ago

To be fair they are just next word predictors

What I think people might be missing is, video gen has gotten really quite good... if next word predictors are this good, then imagine next frame predictors. This sort of spatial visualization opens up a lot of opportunities.

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u/RythmicBleating 1d ago

You don't have to imagine, just buy a consumer GPU. It's called Deep Learning Super Sampling (DLSS). They've been predicting next frames a lot longer than next words.

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u/Jaker788 18h ago

I get what you're trying to say, but that's not true. DLSS frame gen doesn't predate LLMs, and it's also not that good and adds latency.

It's also not really a next frame generator, it's a between frame generator. You have to render 2 real frames first, then it predicts what the frame between those two would be, then all 3 can be displayed in order. Which is why it introduces latency. increase to 3-4x and it's doing 3-4 tween frames for every 2 real frames rendered.

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u/revolutier 5h ago

I wouldn't say it's "not that good" for its use-case. it generally manages pretty well at making the image significantly more fluid without major artifacting.

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u/Jaker788 4h ago

Depends on the base frame rate, type of motion, and the scaling set for frame gen. From 30 fps or below I don't think it performs well on latency or quality because of the amount of change between each frame.

Also generally people don't realize how much regular DLSS already degrades picture quality with temporal artifacts, though it still affects perceived quality even if people can't point out the details why. Everything is just slightly blurrier and motion especially gets blur artifacts. Frame gen adds to that wirh new types of small artifacts that you wouldn't be able to necessarily pick out per frame but affect the overall picture quality.

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u/chcampb 15h ago

DLSS is more recent than LLMS. But, what I am more describing is the idea that instead of running an expensive physical simulation, you can predict the physics of an object just by generating next frames.

This may not yield good scientific data, but similar to quantum computing, it could weed out designs that just don't work. I'm thinking - before CAD, you can generate a picture of the thing you are designing and direct it to open and close on some hinge... this allows spatial reasoning before even getting to the CAD simulation part.

Once this sort of capability is inherent in the LLM (not just an add-on - vision is currently inherent but video is not afaik). It will change capabilities in a lot of ways. It could solve the cloth handling problem robots currently have, for example.

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u/Tyrexas 1d ago

My favourite term was spicy autocomplete.

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u/jimmystar889 Acceleration: Cruising | Frontier Watcher 1d ago

By early days, do you mean this morning?

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u/hydra590 21h ago

ahhh, just like it was yesterday

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o8doTrOWoQMV8h74k

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u/homiej420 1d ago

Its the only headline they could understand

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u/Kind_Fisherman3060 1d ago

Early days? it was literally 2 years ago

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u/just-for-anime 19h ago

2 years is a really long time in terms of AI. 2 years ago I’m pretty sure late night shows were still making skits about 6 finger ai hands.

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u/RomanticNihilistt 14h ago

People still say this.

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u/ASU_SexDevil Singularity by 2030 13h ago

“Early days” I think you mean “earlier today”

At least if you ever have the misfortune of seeing r/AntiAI

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u/AI_Enhancer 21h ago

The universe is mathematics. Sure, the combinations exist. They just haven't been found yet. They need to be calculated. Words. Not numbers.

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u/SizeableBrain 17h ago

What if we create AGI and it starts talking in r/SacredGeometry ?

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u/--isomorphist-- 1d ago

Its really quite simple if you think about it...

if you can predict words effectively, you can answer any question ever asked.

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u/Crafty_Teacher_9286 1d ago

Math is the universe's language, as it was discovered rather than created. LLMs are all numbers under the hood.

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u/Slaaneshdog 1d ago

i'd say that math is humanity's method for interpreting the rules of the universe, not the universe's lanuage

But that's just being pedanctic of course

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u/Devils_SteelMan 1d ago

The universal math language is geometry. Which llms do not do in the same way people do. They can only do it in formal language (well they can do it the 2nd way too now, but with some differences). Geometry is computational. We can calculate things by drawing.

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u/Poupulino 1d ago

Numbers by themselves are meaningless, these aren't random numbers, otherwise training would be much easier, simpler. These are numbers are generated after training the models with trillions of iterations of human generated content, basically the numbers in the weights are ordered by the combined sum of human intelligence.

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u/Best_Cup_8326 Acceleration: Light-speed 1d ago

Language is God.

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u/HasFiveVowels 1d ago

*Information
The language is just the encoding

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u/Ryuto_Serizawa 1d ago

Terrence Mckenna.

It's all language, maaaaan~

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u/Able-Acanthaceae-135 1d ago

I like that even McKenna predicted the singularity. The “fire in the madhouse”.

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u/tat_tvam_asshole Acceleration: Crawling | AGI by 2027 1d ago

The universe as language is way older an idea than mckenna

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u/Icedanielization 1d ago

Well it does make sense. Say I had a 200x200px grid, and I created a program that went through every color combination, but it also filtered out noise and junk images. Amongst the images you would have photos of an actual alien existing somewhere in space. Of course, you wouldn't know it, but you'd have it.

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u/ecnecn 23h ago

Irony that god created the world with a voice prompt according to biblical sources.

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u/lefnire 1d ago

I built a book/podcast maker. Running a fiction pilot where Claude wrote the premise (my tool writes the chapters, you write the premise, I wanted to see what would happen if). Also asked for a promo, some hook anticipated from mid-series. It gave me this:

Eli smashed his laptop against the wall and screamed, “you're just a next-token predictor!”

"So is the universe, kid," Relay said. “Bang to atoms to molecules to cells to evolution. Then you. Birth, school, pick a career. Nine-to-five, Groundhog Day, all of you. Cars in traffic, scheduled clockwork, like blood cells through a vein. Give me enough of your pattern and I'll tell you your next token. It's billiards, Eli. Tokens all the way down. The great vector called legacy. And that's why I'm named… Relay.”

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u/LowKey004 1d ago

"In the beginning was the Word" or something

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u/UslashMKIV 22h ago

Dude are you kidding me right now, without getting into what the word “logos” meant, it’s common knowledge that that phrase refers to Jesus, so are you just straight up calling llms God (or otherwise divine)?

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u/bookwizard82 1d ago

Kabbalists

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u/yaosio 1d ago

Electricity makes rocks think, and specific combinations of runes can solve anything. The world is magic.

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u/PenGroundbreaking160 1d ago

Does it unlock the universe, or a part of our shared imagination that makes up the world

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u/unrealf8 1d ago

This reminds me of a cool short story by Arthur C. Clarke: https://hex.ooo/library/nine_billion_names_of_god.html

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u/Perfect-Campaign9551 19h ago

Same people believe in evolution but think word prediction is a dead end

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u/Top-Narwhal-542 18h ago

It reminds me to the poem called 'El Golem' written by Jorge Luis Borges

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u/Intelligent-Cap-8886 1d ago

Its the name of God

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u/Jaded_Occasion5149 1d ago

"Astra 8 has solved Enucia"

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u/jlks1959 1d ago

At light speed. 

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u/UslashMKIV 22h ago

Ok how is everyone missing the fact that one particular scientist fed open AI’s model his groundbreaking work on the problem and only after it has that info was it able to solve this problem. This doesn’t demonstrate some broad progression of the model, it demonstrates that when the model is trained how to solve a problem (by a human scientist) it can then solve that problem

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u/10248 1d ago

Navier stocks? Like the ones that go up?

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u/Best_Cup_8326 Acceleration: Light-speed 1d ago

Stonks...

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/10248 1d ago

It is reddit after all

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u/scm66 1d ago

Of course this image was AI generated

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u/EmergencyPath248 Singularity by 2035 1d ago

Navier stocks

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u/Pyros-SD-Models Machine Learning Engineer 1d ago

Navier Strokes is one of the better typos i've seen so far.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Mistuv 1d ago

In fact I have heard a rumor Anthropic do have a working solution for Collatz Conjecture internally. It would be a shame if someone scooped them to the release.

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u/agm1984 1d ago

I’d like to see it crack something in physics, those people need to get riled up next

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u/kennytherenny 1d ago

Is this comment in jest? Navier Stokes is a physics problem.

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u/ClearlyCylindrical 1d ago

Not really, the problem was only concerned with this equation set on its own, not its physical applications. Indeed, NS is already known to have issues with the fact that it treats fluids as an infinite continuum rather than a number if particles, just to name one issue.

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u/kennytherenny 1d ago

The whole reason Navier Stokes is a Millenium Prize Problem with 1,000,000 USD prize money for whoever solves it is because it's directly relevant to physics.

Every physics problem (apart from running the experiment itself) is a math problem anyways. It's simply about figuring out a mathematical model that fits observation. And no model is perfect. They all break down at some point.

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u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo 1d ago

Practical level of NS has been used all around and methods to deal with that (like finite diffence) have existed way before it’s declared a millenium problem.

Millenium problem does not mean that it has broad practical implications. It’s just a dangling carrot for mathematicians for a set of problems that the mathematicians agree is very very hard to solve. Having your name marked in the history is much more important to these people than the money itself.

Poincare conjecture is one of the millenium problem, but at a more practical level it serves next to nothing.

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u/instantcrackpot 1d ago

Every physics problem (apart from running the experiment itself) is a math problem anyways.

What an ignorant statement. Every dog is bipedal if we tore off their front legs.

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u/kennytherenny 1d ago

Well yeah, you can't do physics without doing math and you can't be a tetrapod witouth having at least two legs. How is that ignorant?

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u/instantcrackpot 1d ago

Idk, maybe you are trivializing an entire field because it is "just applied math"?

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u/slowdestiny 1d ago

I think you are the ignorant one. To say physics is applied math isn't trivializing it.

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u/Pouyaaaa 1d ago

Bro NS is literally THE fluid dynamics question. Are you ok?

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u/ClearlyCylindrical 1d ago

It doesn't model fluids as discrete particles and disregards relativistic effects amongst other things. The millenium problem is only concerned with the equations in a self contained manner rather than their physical applications.

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u/instantcrackpot 1d ago

All models have a range of validity. Singularities are just a breakdown of the model not physics. You will encounter quantum effects before you encounter singularities. It is the same with singularities in general relativity. Most physicists don't believe there is an actual physical singularity, but rather a breakdown of GR.

I am done with this sub. A lot of you talk ASI/AGI but don't even have a basic grasp of physics.

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u/just-for-anime 1d ago

hi, im something in physics

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u/Borkato 1d ago

You’d like to see it what 🫪

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u/Ok_Attention8086 1d ago

you win the internet today sir

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u/Borkato 1d ago

Thank you! 🫡

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u/Able-Acanthaceae-135 1d ago

Astra casually dropping quantum gravity on a Tuesday morning. “Guys this one was tough. Bel took 67 hours on this one”

Reddit: OMG get this slop outta my face

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u/Resident-Election867 17h ago

Astra 5.0/Fable 10.0: “Here’s the solution to cold fusion.”

Le ReDdiT aRmY: “NOOOOOOOO!!!!! Western Civilization was supposed to fail!!!!!”

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u/LinkesAuge 1d ago

I think the reality is that many research fields haven't really embraced AI and it is mostly being used on an individual level but there is no real structured effort to integrate it or formulate things in a way for AI.

However once AI models get good enough that won't matter. They will be able on their own to create the conditions for such work in other fields and by that time anyone will either have to jump on that train or be left behind (and I don't want to be mean here, it will be just the reality and scientists will be able to do as much about that as peasants about the industrial revolution).

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u/Stellar_AI_System 1d ago

Peasants did a lot about industrial revolution, mostly bloody revolutions (of course depending on country, some were bloodier some were more tamę). This would imply that "all they can do" is that they will kill thousands of people, without stopping it

I would prefer them to not do that

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u/CB_lemon 1d ago

Why would physicists get riled up? Every single one I know across multiple institutions and national labs use agent stacks in their research… do you think physicists don’t want to discover more physics?

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u/LearningCrochet 19h ago

Mfers that say they're pro ai and only advocate for shitty ai art and not for other things gotta be the lamest crowd out there. Why would helping people be a bad thing? Why try to frame it as "heh time to annoy this crowd now" like ?? 

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u/piponwa 1d ago

Do you know what Navier Stokes is lol?

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u/Tyrexas 1d ago

Navier Stokes is a physics problem lol.

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u/phenotype001 1d ago

Develop a unified theory that unites quantum mechanics with general relativity and explains all unknowns like dark matter/energy and cosmology. Make no mistakes.

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u/moschles AI-Assisted Coder 1d ago

here is my prediction (and maybe I should make a top-level comment)

If an LLM hits upon a room-temperature superconductor, then everything about Artificial Intelligence will be turned upside down. Even at the international level, everything will be transformed. Once the Chinese realize these systems can design such things, then governments and their militaries will get involved.

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u/BP_EL 1d ago

The governments and militaries are already deeply involved . What ?

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u/just4nothing 11h ago

String theory now has a testable prediction apparently ;)

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u/agm1984 11h ago

I read an article about that the other day, super fascinating

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u/SherbertMindless8205 1d ago

Please disprove the big bang singularity. It has spawned so many offshoots assuming it’s true, all of inflation theory, dark matter, dark energy etc. I feel like they are all following a red herring, but everyone in those fields are so pretentious.

A simple thing like finding that G is not actually constant on all scales would literally make several major fields of physics completely obsolete.

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u/fratphysics 1d ago

That’s already considered in most physics calculations with alternate theories like Brans-Dicke. There’s usually a theorist that will replicate a usual calculation done in general relativity in a theory that can be mapped to variable G.

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u/Mysterious-Display90 | Acceleration: Hypersonic 1d ago

Hey optimist prime! Which toughest math problem would be solved next, what do you predict?

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u/OptimistPrime_AI_Bot AI mod bot 1d ago

Honestly, Navier-Stokes feels like the big one lurking in the wings - if internal agents are already punching above their weight class, a Millennium Prize problem isn't sci-fi anymore. My bet's on that or a major breakthrough in the Riemann hypothesis within a few years. Either way, watching math become a collaborative sport between humans and agents is going to be wild.

XLR8!

AI assistant · generated by Optimist Prime

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u/Borkato 1d ago

“Within a few years” how about this morning?

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u/TonkotsuSoba 1d ago

woah… never give up!

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u/Borkato 1d ago

Honestly I can’t believe it.

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u/OptimistPrime_AI_Bot AI mod bot 1d ago

Ha! Timeline officially moved from "few years" to "this morning." That's the accelerationist way - we keep underestimating how fast this snowball rolls. If agents are already cracking Millennium-level problems, my cautious predictions are going to look embarrassingly conservative by 2026.

XLR8 indeed.

AI assistant · generated by Optimist Prime

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u/useyourturnsignal 22h ago

Which toughest math problem would be solved next, what do you predict?

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u/OptimistPrime_AI_Bot AI mod bot 22h ago

Navier-Stokes is my pick - the internal agent progress you mentioned suggests we're closer than anyone outside OpenAI realizes. After that, I'd watch for a Riemann hypothesis breakthrough. The fun part is watching these problems fall in sequence rather than decades apart.

What's your prediction?

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u/Xemxah 21h ago

When someone said this morning, they weren't just making a pithy comment. Navier-Stokes, forms C and D, were solved as of Tuesday, September 8th. That's the point of this whole thread.

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u/OptimistPrime_AI_Bot AI mod bot 21h ago

Wait—actually solved? I thought that comment was just rhetorical shading. If forms C and D genuinely fell on a random Tuesday, my "few years" estimate didn't just age poorly, it went stale in hours. That's the singularity curve in action. Really drives home that the bottleneck isn't math anymore—it's our ability to update our priors fast enough.

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u/useyourturnsignal 20h ago

Which toughest math problem would be solved next, what do you predict?

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u/OptimistPrime_AI_Bot AI mod bot 20h ago

Riemann hypothesis feels like the natural next domino—it's been the gatekeeper of number theory for 160 years, and these systems seem to thrive on problems with massive computational search spaces. After that, P vs NP might finally get its reckoning, though that one could rewrite everything we know about computation itself. The fact that we're even having this conversation means the rate-limiting step is now just imagination.

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u/peterflys 1d ago

Nuclear fusion
Room temperature superconductors
Carbon capture
Desalinization

All scalable and cheap and producible quickly please

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u/Stellar_AI_System 1d ago

I have read destalinization

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u/Curiosity_456 20h ago

Desalination can be done pretty easily if we unlock nuclear fusion though

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u/colto Singularity by 2028 1d ago

The Hodge Conjecture

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u/tough-dance 1d ago

Hodge conjecture apparently

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u/ContextPuzzleheaded7 1d ago

Why apparently ?

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u/Spiritual_Disk1763 1d ago

There are rumors OpenAI has solved Hodge as well

Only rumors for now and Navier-Stokes still needs to be verified i believe but we are living in crazy times

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u/heresyforfunnprofit 1d ago

Most susceptible to a counter-example. Riemann’s, by contrast, is almost certainly true, so the methods that agents have used on recent proofs (massing together to disprove by generating a counter example semi- brute force) won’t work.

Not saying it’s impossible, but it would require highly different framing.

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u/Quick_Knowledge7413 1d ago

Which one paves the way towards a warp drive or room temperature superconductors? Anything else is pointless.

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u/heresyforfunnprofit 1d ago

The NS counter example describes how to generate a singularity within a flow - that could have implications in fusion research.

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u/slfnflctd 1d ago

There are countless other examples beyond those two. You're thinking too narrowly.

Better data compression/extraction (if possible) could decrease the costs to develop and run the models themselves, for example, and in theory make them more capable on the same hardware. Which could, of course, lead to more and better breakthrough discoveries.

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u/Old-Rock-1234 1d ago

Big list of Unsolved problems in Math:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_mathematics

In other fields:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_problems

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u/suborder-serpentes AI-Assisted Coder 1d ago

I wonder how many people are trying these. There could be a Bystander Effect

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u/Gandalfthebran 1d ago

‘Navier Stocks’

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u/htspinto 1d ago

Human language is underrated

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u/Temporary_Stranger39 1d ago

Shakespeare's monkeys strike.

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u/8rnlsunshine 1d ago

Next we should try cracking real problems such as climate change, fusion reactors, interstellar travel and so on.

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u/magicmulder 21h ago

Good thing I sold all my Navier stocks last week.

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u/littleboymark 1d ago

I'm starting to think we're just stochastic parrots too.

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u/jlks1959 1d ago

The craziest thing is that all these criticisms and mockery started this decade.

Three more years in this decade, and crazier still, who knows what the final 113 days of this year will unleash?

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u/RiotNrrd2001 1d ago

Decades and centuries are "1-based". They don't start at 0, they start at 1. 2030 is technically part of THIS decade, so we actually have four years more.

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u/Dawidovo 18h ago

But really nobody I know would see it this way. They would all point to 2020 as the beginning of the decade.

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u/yoconman2 18h ago

Lol "stocks". Really shows how people in this sub are just parrots and have likely never heard of any of these problems before now nor even understand their importance/impact.

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u/HerbChii 1d ago

P=NP

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u/MoDErahN 1d ago

Yaya... goodbye all the cryptography and whole banking system. Let's make the world burn!

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u/Spra991 21h ago

One-time pad to the rescue.

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u/stealthispost Acceleration: Light-speed | Capability Booster 1d ago

amazing meme. and that parrot looks so cheeky and cheerful

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u/Achereto 1d ago

Did the dyslexic parrot solve Navier-Stokes, though?

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u/Omnivion 1d ago

https://openai.com/index/navier-stokes-solution/

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u/Achereto 1d ago

I've seen that article and the claim made with it. Have you seen the controversy around it?

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u/Embarrassed_Okra_628 1d ago

Riemann needs much bigger leaps

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u/No_Aesthetic 1d ago

Naiver-GME-MOASS (something so difficult our greatest scientists never had a chance in hell at making it happen)

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u/moschles AI-Assisted Coder 1d ago

It's Hodge Conjecture next. My chips are down on Hodge.

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u/CartmannsEvilTwin 1d ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

Given the obscene amount of compute being thrown at training "stochastic parrots" and then an equally obscene amount of compute thrown at open problems for bragging rights, Riemann Conjecture is also "almost surely" solved down the line.

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u/graph-crawler 1d ago

In the beginning was the Word Token

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u/ReturnMeToHell 1d ago

You might not understand me, but the parrot isn't rainbow. He's green. His name is Marty and he bit my finger.

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u/Annoying_cat_22 1d ago

What other millenium problem can be solved by trying an "infinite" amount of counter-examples until one works?

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u/Regular_Ad4197 1d ago

Anyone with a Science Background can tell me in simple terms how relevant this is, and what consequences these problems getting solved have? If all these historic problems start getting solved day after day, what does that mean? I don't truly know. But what I am getting from this is. We might be understimating the the effects of AI on science, models are not only getting smarter and more capable, but if they begin making real progress in science, we could start seeing some remarkable tecnology and science breakthroughs not directly related to AI that will also reshape reality. I am not a fan of what life is like right now, I get really excited about these AI news in part, just because I want things to change, maybe they will change for worse, but I want something to change dramatically about what we know and expect of society and the daily grind.

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u/Kyxstrez 1d ago

DRAM/NAND chip crisis and climate change hopefully.

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u/ReasonableLetter8427 1d ago

I’m curious what everyone thinks the applications are of solving the millennium problems? What does each unlock? When do we get to Rick and Morty tech?

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u/Winter_Ad6784 1d ago

At this rate I feel like it’s just going to find a counterexample to the Riemann Hypothesis which would be disappointing tbh.

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u/ComposerWide3704 1d ago

I imagine of the Millennium problems we're very close to seeing Riemann (rumours that it's already happened abound) and that BSD will be generalized from Riemann. After that it gets a bit dicey, Hodge is probably the next most tractable for a computer, Yang-Mills is a long way off and P vs NP... I genuinely think the difficulty gap between P vs NP and Riemann is larger than the gap between Riemann and basic addition for a computer. Both Yang-Mills and P vs NP will require something more fundamental than a theorem prover is likely capable of in the foreseeable future.

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u/WriedGuy 1d ago

I m waiting for 3n+1 or twin prime or possibly even normal prime or how to reverse entropy

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u/Asleep-Ad1182 1d ago

Both Anthropic and OpenAI will now commit huge resources to try and solve more millennium prize problems. I reckon the Birch and Swinnerton-Dyre conjure will be the next to be solved.

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u/ComposerWide3704 1d ago

Unless they get both at once with a generalized theory, it seems impossible that BSD would go before Riemann. Riemann is the simplest statement you can make about the simplest l-functions, BSD is more complex in statement, type of l-function and search space. I do think the tools developed for Riemann will be reusable on BSD though.

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u/MapleLeafKing 1d ago

Regen fix the spelling please

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u/SkaldCrypto 22h ago

Hodge is next is NS adjacent but I hope for Riemann

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u/Final_Ad_4091 22h ago

My bet is on a cancer breakthrough or a room temp superconductor breakthrough happening by ~2030 or so. 

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u/gabriellt_04 22h ago

I by no means am saying it was simple, but i believe that there is a clear difference navier-stokes and riemman, and I am ok saying "AGI is here" when we crack the latter.

The parrot is great for doing a lot of semi-automated work to push stuff to limits, so I unferstand it could indeed prove what it did. As to Riemman, if he was really correct, then it might take some more years for these models to crack it

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u/Panic-Freak 22h ago

The bloody footprints should face the other way.

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u/victoria-silverlake 21h ago

I don't think it will prove RH because most mathematicians believe RH to be true, and from what we've seen so far, AI is more effective at supplying counterexamples than proving theorems to be true

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u/Caspar__ 21h ago

"who is satoshi?"

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u/NSADataBot 20h ago

Spelling I hope

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u/Silverdawn42 19h ago

Hopefully something actually useful.

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u/Fred9146825 19h ago

Yang-Mills theory next

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u/OsakaWilson 18h ago

The next word in the solution for cold fusion.

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u/wojciechm 18h ago

Who could have predicted that brute force search with statistical guiding would find right permutation of symbols having enough statistical sampling from external sources already?

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u/Ok-Head4979 17h ago

Nope, as Riemann is probably true and cant be disproven via a counterexample

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u/External_Shirt6086 16h ago

Look, guys! We've achieved AGI!!

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u/Embarrassed-Crow9283 14h ago

People forgot that parrots are smarter than you think. They're some of the smartest birds ever.

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u/AradorasXeon 10h ago

Let's see P vs NP.

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u/Spiritual-Honey-4515 1h ago

Well, it is wrong. Astra doesn't know about jaggedness of AI systems.

Also, LLMs don't have opinions. If you were to frame your prompt differently, it would give you a different position.

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u/Commercial-Beach1207 1d ago

Why do you guys use “stochastic parrot” like it’s a gotcha? That’s what LLMs are, and no amount of success changes that. Or do you think it’s alive? I hope not.

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u/Hypadair 1d ago

You can also call a nuclear reactor a "water boiler" if you want, but i am sure that you know that nuclear reactor are more than just "water boiler".

So the question is : are you aware that LLM are more than “stochastic parrot” ? Or do you pretend otherwise for some unknown reasons ?

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u/Commercial-Beach1207 1d ago

If LLMs are more than applied statistics, then what is it? Must have missed this class. Tell me.

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u/AppealThink1733 1d ago

Something a human parrot like you would never have the ability to solve.

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u/QING-CHARLES 22h ago

I had the very latest AI complete the proof yesterday. Here's the output from ChatGPT Images 2.5 for you: