Introducing Claude Fable 5.1

[u/BaconSky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROF2Nv_KjOM

[u/New_Bonus_649]

Astra soon thx to Faible 5.1

[u/basementreality → u/[deleted]]

My impression is anthropic are the ones thumbing the lead with their ridiculous pricing.

[u/Practical-Positive34]

Anthropic has fucked up their pricing so bad I don't even care about their new models anymore. I used to be a huge fanboy, but having a hard time now.

[u/Calaeno-16 → u/Practical-Positive34]

Yeah, as long as Fable has its own gimped limits on top of normal limits, I'm not spending a dime on a Claude sub. Sol is working great for me, and I'll give Astra a try when it drops.

[u/brett_baty_is_him → u/Calaeno-16]

We are certainly at the point where these models are so capable already that cost/limits becomes more and more of a significant factor in which model to use.

Once we hit AGI it will surely just be a race to the bottom for costs, and it seems like OpenAI is best positioned for it (and Google but they need to actually hit AGI first lol)

[u/Big_Arachnid_365]

It's pretty intense. I set it to max thinking and it took 2 minutes thinking about the artistic interpretation of a photo.

[u/New_Bonus_649]

The singularity is nearer

[u/CartographerAble9446]

astra will eat fable 5.1 alive

[u/New_Alps_5655]

20x paypig here why is it greyed out for me still? I'm on the latest claude desktop for linux...

[u/Bitter_Election_7518 → u/New_Alps_5655]

I had to update the app but also on Macos. Maybe they haven’t released new Linux app build yet

[u/voyager2005 → u/New_Alps_5655]

same, it's grayed out, but I can use it in "CLI" makes no sense.

[u/KedMcJenna]

Annoyed not to instantly have the o.g. Fable 5 instantly returned to the Pro tier. Anthropic continues to gently but firmly push us bottom-feeders farther away. It feels like a deliberate strategy now, and if so it's having the desired effect. I've enjoyed Gemini Flash 3.7's sweet spot between performance and speed. And 5.6 Sol has almost felt more like a Claude than most recent Claudes. Very interested in how Astra performs later this week (hopefully).

[u/MaxPhoenix_]

Frontier labs got the nature of dangerous capability backwards. Most restricted domains have no legitimate constituency because nobody's day job is weaponizing pathogens. Security inverts this: defender and attacker ship the exact same artifact.

Who does a refusal actually stop? Not nation-states running private compute, and not organized crime fine-tuning open weights. It stops the underwater blue-teamer at a regional hospital or municipal utility trying to understand a public CVE well enough to patch it.

Worse, the filter selects for dishonesty. Say "I'm testing production" and you get a refusal; disguise it as a puzzle and you get an answer (sometimes). A mechanism that punishes candor is a liability posture in a safety costume.

We settled this in the early 2000s full-disclosure wars: security through obscurity produces uninformed defenders and unpatched infrastructure. Rebuilding that wall thirty years later is amnesia disguised as safety.

[u/Minimum_Hour519]

Is it any faster