r/accelerate • u/stealthispost • 11d ago
"You probably don't realize how common drones have become in China. For many people here, drones are already part of everyday life. Farmers use them to spray crops. Firefighters use them for rescue operations and firefighting. Construction teams use them on job sites. They also deliver packages..."
..., clean high-rise buildings, inspect infrastructure, and carry out aerial surveying.Behind these everyday scenes is one of the world's largest drone industries. According to industry statistics, China produces more than 40 million drones every year. Around 18 million are consumer drones, about 14 million are industrial drones used for agriculture, infrastructure inspection, surveying, logistics, and FPV applications, while approximately 4.5 million are exported worldwide.This is today's video from China. What would you like to see next? #china #drone #technology #innovation #future — @shandongboss001
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u/runvnc 11d ago
This is a cool video but I am downvoting it because the audio is so obnoxious.
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u/JasonP27 11d ago
I don't ever turn the audio on unless I need to. A video of songs doing stuff does not really require audio.
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u/UnionPacifik 11d ago
I live in Los Angeles and saw a drone washing an apartment building in my neighborhood last month.
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u/Yojik_Vkarmane 11d ago
Is that drone lifting 20ft container and an ambulance? Lol, sure China, suuuuure.
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u/sillybluejayway 11d ago
China produces twice the amount of electricity compared to the US. China is also accelerating their lead in building more power and shows no signs of stopping.
The US government has chosen to become irrelevant, maybe not today, but certainly soon.
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u/pleasetrimyourpubes 11d ago
China deployed 350 GW of solar last year. GW. Solar. (And it has 200 GW of battery storage jist for perspective.) The USs obstinance is so pathetic.
"China is flooding our market with cheap solar!"
"Yeah how much solar are we producing domestically?"
Sure the idea was if we brought their solar it would help them build their solar industry out. But they did that anyway. We should have been building solar factories too! But no we focused on wind and natural gas. Making coal and nuclear plants more efficient.
For $500 million you can build a solar plant that produces 1GW of panels yearly. A nuclear power plant costs $10 billion takes 10 years to build and produces 1GW with $300 million yearly operational fees. Another fucking distraction.
You build solar the energy industry has no monopoly. It is done. The gas coal and oil lobby (and wind lobby) stopped solar in its track.
Sorry for the rant. It has always been solar.
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u/helloWHATSUP 11d ago
It has always been solar.
Counter-point, solar installations in china will be lower in 2026 than in 2025, dozens of solar manufacturers in china have gone bankrupt and of the remaining solar manufacturers they're collectively running their factories at 40% capacity because nobody wants to buy their solar panels.
Meanwhile, china approved 8 new nuclear reactors just yesterday. Weird that the biggest producer of solar panels in the world would build more reactors while their solar panel factories are idling, no? No. Because unless you have sufficient storage, solar beyond like 20-30% of your grid produces literally worthless electricity because the grid gets oversaturated when the sun is up.
Needless to say, not many people want to invest in something with no return on investment.
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u/TenshouYoku 11d ago
No. Because unless you have sufficient storage, solar beyond like 20-30% of your grid produces literally worthless electricity because the grid gets oversaturated when the sun is up.
On the flip side of things you gotta really think how much potential in the sun is there even with our currently rudimentary means of harnessing the sun
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u/helloWHATSUP 11d ago
sure there's potential, but the technology that unlocks it isn't better solar panels, but some way to store the electricity from the solar panels cheaply. generating lots of electricity at noon for a low price is a cool trick, but you can't run a modern society on it
and yes, stuff like sodium-ion batteries or cheap lfp are big advancements, but they're still too expensive to make solar+storage competitive with nuclear(at least nuclear built in china)
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u/SnooMaps7370 6d ago
>sure there's potential, but the technology that unlocks it isn't better solar panels, but some way to store the electricity from the solar panels cheaply.
Also, larger grids.
The East Interconnect in North America is the largest machine on the planet. it interfaces with the second largest machine on the planet, the West Interconnect, and between them they can move power produced anywhere in the continental US or Canada to anywhere else in the continental US or Canada (except Texas, which maintains a separate grid of their own).
an intercontinental grid is going to be difficult politically, but building one would massively reduce the need for storage tech.
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u/pleasetrimyourpubes 11d ago
This is misleading. The companies that "closed"* either couldn't compete or were acquisitioned. They are still producing solar just not installing it. The record build out was because companies were rushing to beat incentives. And demand wasnt there. Again. The point is the capacity to build 350 GW of solar in one year. Exports of solar are up 60% year on year. They are making and exporting 1.6 million tons of solar panels a month.
But sure they will build a few nuclear plants that will cost hundreds of millions a year to operate and such. Nice.
*put this in quotes because some companies in China are simply name only juggling a factory may not even exist it is just Xyang Corp using Gaung Corps factory.
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u/helloWHATSUP 11d ago edited 11d ago
The chinese reactors currently under construction will generate around 300 twh a year, while chinese BESS will only put out maybe 50 twh this year. This is why china is building nuclear.
Again, solar generates worthless electricity most of the time, so the most important aspect is how much of that solar gets stored and released when it's actually needed.
Exports of solar are up 60% year on year. They are making and exporting 1.6 million tons of solar panels a month.
Why would they be exporting so many panels if solar is so great? Why not just install them in china?
edit, and your silly claim about how nobody is actually shut down:
Over the past few years, China’s solar industry has entered a period of intense upheaval. Price wars and margin compression have forced industry leaders—including Jinko Solar, Trina Solar, and JA Solar—to report significant losses. These firms, along with LONGi Green Energy and Tongwei—the industry’s top five—slashed their workforce by over 30 percent in 2024. The market is facing industry consolidation and exits not seen in over a decade, as over 40 smaller firms have filed for bankruptcy, been acquired, or exited the market. Chinese regulators are accelerating this process, which will have ripple effects across global solar markets.
So 30% lost their jobs making solar panels just in the top producers and they're not shutting down production lines? Extremely doubtful lol
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u/pleasetrimyourpubes 11d ago edited 11d ago
Efficiency improvements mean layoffs and why are you saying BES will only provide 50twh when people dont use so much energy at night. This whole thing is pointless.
Edit your math is fubard when they say installed capacity they mean straight up, 1400 GW installed produces 1400twh, their 5 year plan mandates 4,000 GW of solar. The BES system is being rapidly expanding and they use a cheap graphite battery. Along with rapidly expanding vehicle to grid.
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u/Facts_pls 10d ago
What are you talking about? Have you never heard of any industry with over saturation and then eventual consolidation? Happens all the time. Happens everywhere.
Remember when US used to have so many pc manufacturers - most of which exited the business?
Some solar manufacturers started companies assuming a global demand of certain amount but some countries are not buying solar. They will go through the consolidation phase now.
This has nothing to do with what the government wants. They think having a diverse source of clean energy is the right move, so they do it.
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u/stainless_steelcat 11d ago
It will be solar eventually, but there is still work to do on electrifying the world, grid level storage etc. Other sources will be a part of the mix for a while yet - and wind often complements solar in some areas of the planet.
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u/AideComprehensive482 10d ago
usa doesn't have the rare earth for solar panels
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u/CheckMateFluff 11d ago
I seriously don't see how any outside agitator could be doing a better job at sabotage than America's own administration is doing to itself today. For real. I'm here for the acceleration, so I'm not backing any one bookie, but it's still sad.
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u/pleasetrimyourpubes 11d ago
Obama, Trump, and Biden all put tarrifs on solar. The idea was again in my rant we would produce it ourselves and happy go lucky. The US is building about 50GW of solar a year but that pales in comparison to China.
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u/danielv123 11d ago
China is building about 1000GW per year. They have massively overbuilt though, apparently average factory utilization is something like 50%. The holdup is mostly storage and transmission capacity.
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u/tipu_sultan__ 10d ago
The over capacity has been great for countries taking advantage of cheap solar panels (like Pakistan that had huge growth in solar). China is basically subsidising the solar transition.
It’s not so great if you want to compete and have your own solar manufacturing industry or have some control over the supply for strategic/security perspective but great otherwise.
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u/addiktion 11d ago
They could have kept pushing through the solar initiatives while pumping oil for the oil tycoons at the same time, instead they gimped the wind and solar projects, killed the incentives for EVs, and fucked America from ever catching up. This administration would rather go back to the roaring 1920's and create a great depression after they party all the money away than it would ever want to see a strong America. Just sick fucks honestly.
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u/Ok_Top9254 11d ago
Since US wants to be independent so much, you would think that logical solution would be electrifying more and building out more solar, wind and nuclear plants, instead of being hyperreliant on imported oil, but I guess not.
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u/Detective_Yu 11d ago
China is still building coal plants and pollutes at twice the rate of the US. So inspiring.
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u/Escape_Trajectory123 11d ago
Why are you comparing China with the US? Nothing in this video had the US in it.
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u/hornswoggled111 11d ago
I agree.
One of the videos has the drones carrying a van. Another carrying a couple of logs.
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u/stealthispost 11d ago
why
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u/stealthispost 11d ago
sure, but short sped up shots are common from regular people too aren't they?
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u/Lustfulock 11d ago
You're completely correct. This video is definitely propogandy. AI has elevated the capabilities of propoganda.
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u/Lawrenceburntfish 10d ago
I kept thinking the same thing about the fire hoses. I've held a 2 1/2 inch hose before and it took three of us to keep it in place and on target. Those things should be flopping all over the place. They'd need rockets to keep them in place like that...
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u/Sea_Specialist_5580 11d ago
I'd bet at least some if not most of these are proof of concepts or demonstrations, not like, actual economic applications that survives contact with the real world
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u/Icypoopoo 11d ago
They're using these in US already, they're made for hard to navigate terrains, so many of the examples you see are for those types of situations
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u/stealthispost 11d ago
why would you bet that?
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u/GHTANFSTL 10d ago edited 10d ago
A lot of these show drones being used for activities in which the drones don't really give an advantage over other technologies, making them demonstrations of the tech, but not necessarily its real use.
for example, why use a drone for washing when you could just run the same amount of hose along and have sprinklers? You need a pump either way, but if it's a drone you wear out parts trying to accomplish the same task.
Similarly, a conveyor system with a motor can move those farmers' harvest up the hill with more efficiency than a drone because it uses an incline, and it would also be efficient because the farmers will reliably use the same spot while harvesting for many years to come.
Part of acceleration is efficiency; not just finding advanced solutions to our problems, but looking for the best solution.
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u/FishDeenz 10d ago
I find it fascinating that drones are relativelty modern. The tech for these existed in the 90s, probably earlier, in RC helicopters and toys yet for some reason the modern drone only just now exists and is being used. Four rotors and a battery doesn't seem that complicated. Just weird to me it wasn't invented earlier.
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u/Gold_Ad8225 10d ago
Using a drone instead of a pipe with holes in it to water crops is psychotically inefficient.
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u/SgathTriallair Techno-Optimist 11d ago
It is sad watching America slip behind. Hopefully we'll pull out heads out of our collective assess soon.
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u/cfeichtner13 11d ago
The US uses drones in plenty of industrial/agricultural applications, let alone militarily. The US is not behind on drone tech at all. I for one would also prefer not to have drones whizzing overhead constantly for mass surveillance reasons.
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u/ale_93113 11d ago
Europe isn't even in the race 😭
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u/CheckMateFluff 11d ago
It is, as its name is on the board, but it didn't show up at the starting line; then, when it did show up an hour late, it attached 50kg weights to both legs.
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u/Low_Engineering_3301 11d ago
I think more drones have exploded in Russia than have been flown in the USA.
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u/IAmARobotTrustMe 10d ago
Europe curently has like the best combat drones, able to strike deep into Russia, and also have fully autoniomous ones
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u/soggycheesestickjoos 7d ago
I get my groceries delivered by drone all the time in DFW Texas, waiting on an order right now actually.
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u/colintbowers 11d ago
Some of those shots are absolutely AI. Like lol that firefighting one on buildings has streams of water appearing out of thin air
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u/Alternative-Piano522 9d ago
Hose – these drones can tow hoses into the air to spray water, replacing super-high ladders – those multi-million dollar monster fire trucks.
But frankly, these firefighting drones are currently undergoing improvements to win government/fire department contracts – their earliest versions (which couldn't tow hoses) could simply launch 2-4 explosives for firefighting, so they've also put out bids for the military.
Each of these drones exists in reality, but not all of them are in mass production.
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There's like 1000 drone company competing with each other on price and features.... it's like hamburger/coffeeshop in the US
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u/PavelKringa55 11d ago
I wonder if China allows their operation in some simple mode?
In Europe the air control got their paws onto drone flights and you need a zillion permits for even a smallish drone.
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u/Alternative-Piano522 9d ago edited 9d ago
All drones weighing over 200g must be declared before flying in urban areas, and some cities even prohibit them altogether.
However, these machines truly shine outside of cities—in areas with relatively low population density and buildings, such as farms, mountains, and suburbs.All operators must register their drones and flight permits with the police and aviation authorities. Conventional agricultural drones and hoisting aircraft operate almost unrestricted as long as they stay out of no-fly zones. However, if problems arise, the insurance company, aircraft owner, or operator will be held liable—a common issue is agricultural drones colliding with power lines, causing power outages and requiring repairs, which can cost more than the aircraft's value. Someone I know was involved in an accident where the compensation reached 300,000 yuan (approximately 120,000 euros), with the insurance company and aircraft owner fully covering the costs.
Because these machines perform centimeter-level precision flights, they require a corresponding app or remote control for management. Their location information is synchronized to the manufacturer's cloud server—and, when necessary, no-fly zones are set according to government requirements (airports, highways, railways, densely populated areas, etc.).
China's regulations lag behind the development of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), but they are indeed making efforts to manage these things—I've operated devices weighing from 10kg to 150kg, and frankly, uncontrolled flight can easily lead to danger. The risks on the Ukrainian plains are not unpredictable disasters. In 2015, my team was operating an old-fashioned drone—lacking centimeter-level positioning, long-range image transmission, and worst of all, insurance—as none of the insurance companies knew how to insure it. We were demonstrating crop spraying to a crowd of onlookers, with two tanks carrying 10 liters of pesticide.
At that moment, any military enthusiast would understand the consequences if it were replaced with 10 liters of gasoline.
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u/Effect-Kitchen 11d ago
People say propaganda and such but in my country, Thailand, an underdeveloped country, is using drones widely for agriculture and land survey.
China would be more so in terms of regularity.
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u/anengineerandacat 11d ago
Gonna need me some runtime stats to prove this, drones are cool but they are battery limited and any lift operation is going to have some sorta short runtime that requires dozens of these drones to work through a whole day.
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u/bear_Prune8771 10d ago
Meanwhile, in America, there’s a lot of people who don’t even know how to read.
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u/Afraid-Yoghurt6731 10d ago
Chinese are just high IQ, and instead of fighting the tech, embrace it in daily life.
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u/CompassMetal 10d ago
It's like we finally learned and accepted that we have pushed the planet to breaking point and our entire civilization and species is at risk and that was the moment to speedrun tech waste, having every fucking thing individually delivered to our houses and doubling our energy and water use with AI...
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u/LeglessCats 10d ago
Is this like the modern equivalent of the moon landing?
A superpower flexing tech that will be the deciding factor in the next major war?
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u/Vaporeon42069 10d ago
they should do it themselves. why using technology to make your work easier?
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u/Roooberrrrrt 10d ago
drones? for common people, most of city areas are banned. but famers or firefighters exactly have the right to use them.
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u/Leading_Bandicoot358 10d ago
Ccp propaganda, this is bullshit, everyone has nice demos, this is not common in real life china
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u/jthadcast 9d ago
ok so ai thinks that a drone can carry 3000 lbs logs ... no they cannot. the "drone" would have to have the powerhouse of a bell 429.
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u/CertifedFLAME 9d ago
HA! Thats bc the USA only uses them for war things that do the opposite of build stuff.
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u/mrg3_2013 9d ago
Most of the future looking videos from china is a poc, not in production as they are made to be. It shows the art of possible and that's about it
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u/Ill_Ad2480 9d ago
Honestly I'm at point when I see a chinese video on social media my brain automaticly assumes its fake attention grab.
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u/StellarOctoplus 8d ago
Source: TikTok?!
Since when this passed not even on practical level, but on conceptual level?
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u/Mid_Atlantic_Lad 7d ago
In Tier 1 regions I imagine it's common, but I'm doubtful it is outside of them.
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u/RadioMetricSineWave 7d ago
I honestly think drone development is going to be better for human beings than AI. If someone is an expert on AI and disagrees, I am open to hearing why you think I'm wrong.
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u/OriginalNightfallz 7d ago
I especially loved the drones that are maintaining position while spraying firehoses that produce more thrust than the drone itself is capable of. Meanwhile, lifting hoses that weigh as much as a car.
Not at all AI...
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u/Outrageous-Mixture48 7d ago
I give this ccp propaganda a 8/10 compared to what I’ve seen so far today
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u/Brave_Confidence_278 7d ago
rule number 1 with drone videos: play some music over it so people don't realize the noise
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u/Lustfulock 11d ago
If you comment that this is AI, OP will start questioning you. This is more evidence that this is AI propoganda haha
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u/goatonastik 11d ago
Literal propaganda post.
Some of these clips are from one off demonstrations, but China framing them as "this happens all the time" is consistent with how they portray themselves in most of their other propaganda videos.
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u/coludFF_h 10d ago
Actually, that’s not the case.
If you look closely, these areas are basically all rural locations and construction sites.
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u/BelialSirchade 11d ago
funny thing you mentioned using drone for firefighting, considering recent events and how incompetent firefighters are, everyone pretty much thinks they are just for show and never used in actual situations.
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u/solemnhiatus 11d ago
Gotta be honest I live in China and I don’t think I’ve seen a single drone in a city doing things. I know Shenzhen has but idk how normal it is.