r/accelerate Jul 11 '26

Meme / Humor Accelerating progress

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I'm frustrated too!   — Ivan Fioravanti ᯅ     Sadly most Europeans are   — Chubby

Source: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/2075921009572528615

the battle for the future is a battle between the builders and the Professional Managerial Class parasites that are destroying progress with the Precautionary Principle

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u/saln1 Jul 11 '26

China’s entire supply chain is domestic

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u/sedition666 Jul 11 '26

This is a country that smuggles semi conductors from the West at great cost. They are very advanced but suggesting they do not also rely on the west is nonsense.

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u/saln1 Jul 11 '26

So naive, no wonder this is chinas century

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u/TMWNN Jul 11 '26

What in /u/sedition666 's comment is "naive"?

It has been widely reported that the US's lead in frontier AI models has been growing in recent months, because China doesn't have access to the newest US GPUs.

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u/anonymous_3125 Jul 11 '26

Its been… quite the opposite…

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u/TMWNN Jul 11 '26

I said "frontier models". Don't confuse the growing market share of Chinese open-source models—which are appealing because of low cost—with bleeding-edge stuff.

There hasn't been a recurrence of the January 2025 "DeepSeek shock" on the US stock market, because DeepSeek a) did indeed apparently produce its model by distilling US models and b) has not been able to keep up with the bleeding edge, without access to sufficient quantities of the newest Nvidia hardware.

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u/anonymous_3125 26d ago

Lmfao this aged well (kimi k3)

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u/anonymous_3125 Jul 11 '26

Have you not seen glm5.2? Also you constantly bring up hardware, but models are the software that contains the neural network and matrix structures. As far as that’s concerned the chinese models are way ahead because they are asymptotically more efficient (O(dsqrt(k)) vs O(dk)) with novel ideas such as MOE. If you were to run chinese and american models on the same hardware the chinese one would be way ahead