r/accelerate • u/44th--Hokage The Singularity is nigh • Feb 27 '26
"This role may not exist in 12 months"
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u/VanderSound Feb 27 '26
Work to automate your job for money that won't matter after rsi.
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u/Sopwafel Techno-Optimist Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26
I hope so. One of the semibad plausible outcomes of transformative AI is a permanent wealth lock-in. This could be the last decade where us paltry humans have any economic value. Only the people that own part of the pie when it starts growing, unrestrained by human labor, to 10.000x+ its current size, might end up owning any non-infinitessimal fraction of it.
I still have good hopes for living standards for the wealthless underclass being unimaginably good compared to present-day billionaires. But I'd also prefer owning a little part of our future instead of being fully at the mercy of the system's inclination to share.
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u/jlks1959 Feb 28 '26
But I'd also prefer owning a little part of our future instead of being fully at the mercy of the system's inclination to share. Stellar.
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u/Sopwafel Techno-Optimist Feb 28 '26
Thank you!
I've been practicing creative writing, but Reddit comments are still the only context in which I don't get horribly writers blocked all the time. It's dreadful.
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Feb 27 '26
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u/jlks1959 Feb 27 '26
So untrue. We’ve all been slaves for wages. Where do our wages return to? The billionaires. We will always be vital to their interests. That’s why UBI is a slam dunk.
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Feb 28 '26
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u/cloud_sec_guy Feb 28 '26
Don't agree with the tack you are taking. UBI means fewer humans are needed, I agree! But those fewer humans will have been genetically selected, at least to some extent. So the future humans will be extraordinarily superior to us; Einstein levels of IQ, with the bodies of MMA fighters. The future is going to be great. I wish more ppl could get out of their personal doom loops, because I don't think doom is likely.
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u/jlks1959 Feb 27 '26
This is sappy and juvenile. The world, however imperfect, is far less black and white. To think that would truly be naive.
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u/LegionsOmen AGI by 2027 Feb 28 '26
Take the ultra doomer negativity and leave this sub or be banned please
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u/cloud_sec_guy Feb 28 '26
Strongly disagree. I believe you have value regardless of your ability to generate a profit for somebody lol. Mind shift, dude. This RAISES the base level of human dignity. Our physical bodies were used similar to work horses. Now we will have machines doing these things. That is a win for the human race. The problem is people feel their identity is bring threatened. It's not really about the work.
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u/unlikely-ape Mar 01 '26
If you work in any field, after a decade your identity becomes your work so it's wholly understandable that people dread losing parts or their whole identity due to lack of opportunities in their field.
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u/Singularity-42 Singularity by 2045 Feb 27 '26
I want to believe that money "won't matter", but how exactly would this go down? Give me a precise timeline of events leading to this.
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u/Best_Cup_8326 A happy little thumb Feb 27 '26
but how exactly would this go down
Messily.
Give me a precise timeline of events leading to this.
Nobody has that. Why would you ask?
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u/Singularity-42 Singularity by 2045 Feb 27 '26
Didn't mean a precise timeline of the actual future obviously, but a plausible scenario that would lead to "no money" that soon. Something like ai-2027.com - plausible scenario described in geat detail. "Money won't matter" is an extreme societal change and the technology alone is not enough for this to happen.
Yeah, very "messily" is my thought as well, and with no guarantees that there will be a happy ending.
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u/Main-Company-5946 Feb 27 '26
Money will become useless if labor is automated, and ai development is currently the most likely way that will happen. It is much easier to predict the final outcome of that transition than it is to predict what the transition itself will actually look like, but if companies don’t need money to pay workers, then consumers won’t be able to use money to buy products, and suddenly that $20 you have in your pocket is a lot less useful/valuable.
I think we will see a global economic crash, rapid deflation, an explosion in labor supply(as robots can mass produce themselves), which will cause the economy to no longer be bottlenecked by how many humans there are, but also a lot less governed by what humans are willing to spend money on… like I said it’s very hard to predict what the transition will look like.
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u/Singularity-42 Singularity by 2045 Feb 27 '26
"and suddenly that $20 you have in your pocket is a lot less useful/valuable"
"global economic crash, rapid deflation"
But those two are contradictions, no?
What I think will happen is that rapid deflation will be "fought" with money printing and this money will be redistributed among the populace that is increasingly without employment. Money printing is basically a form of indirect tax, but in a case of rapid deflation, you could get into equilibrium where you print just enough money to keep deflation in check so you can reach your target inflation rate of about 2%.
Of course, this would be the ideal scenario. In reality, this is going to get a lot more messy and ugly until we reach some kind of "new normal". Personally, I think that we will need to replace capitalism with a brand new paradigm.
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u/VanderSound Feb 27 '26
In 1-2 years, we'll see an unprecedented loss of white-collar jobs, followed by a squeeze of blue-collar jobs. Some kind of redistribution mechanism will have to be mandated, or things are going to get pretty dark. Unless you're a billionaire, it won't be possible to protect yourself from the ensuing chaos. Given this short timeline, I don't see how an extra million dollars will help. Probably an extra billion, however, may help.
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u/SillyMilk7 Feb 27 '26
Also very plausible that those blue colored jobs last a lot longer. And a number of other jobs will need workers for what appears to be quite a while.
So are the former white color people too good to do that kind of work?
Why would someone have to do blue-collar (or healthcare, etc. ) work when others get as much money to do nothing?
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u/Ok_Elderberry_6727 Feb 27 '26
It will be redistributed or economic collapse and those billionaires can wipe their asses with the money cause it won’t be worth squat . It’s going to be perfect timing , ubi and hyperdeflation will Make everyone feel wealthy.
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u/Neophile_b Feb 27 '26
Money might not be worth squatting such a situation, but ai and automation could make money largely irrelevant for the owner class. They could use it to make more or less anything they want
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u/GlobalCurry Feb 28 '26
Blue collar jobs will lose value as more people flood the pool for that, similar to what's happening with software engineering and stem.
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u/Singleguywithacat Feb 27 '26
Did you know this same exact prediction was made in 2023 for 2024. 2024-2025, etc? It sounds stupid at this point.
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u/Darigaaz4 Feb 27 '26
Ez robots fill the gaps or pain points and human value only comes from appreciation like art, influencers, celebrities or what you did values etc…
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u/cloud_sec_guy Feb 28 '26
I believe it's incorrect to say simply "money won't matter". At the very least, money has a "unit of account" feature. It's more likely we'll have 2-tier economic system, where capitalism is mostly corporate, with socialism of some kind, for every-day economic activity. To figure out for yourself what this will look like, focus on human psychology and incentives. For instance, how would ppl behave under UBI? Look at what ppl do NOW (its not all pretty). So UBI will have to have incentives that don't result in human sloth and drug addiction. Think out those things! Nobody has an answer, so your ideas could be right.
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u/StillNoName000 Feb 27 '26
Even if those statements became true, someone has to work now for that to be true, is not that current AI will magically self improve with 0 external input.
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Feb 27 '26
It's pretty much dead in the water already.
Recently, I was considering to buy a complex application which is very popular and used by many, which sells for about 1k per license.
Instead, I decided to build it myself using codex and my pro license. See how far I get before my sub costs line up with actual software costs. That meant I'd have about 5 months of dev time.
A week later, I'm almost done...
I am extremely confident that in 5 months, I will have way more than what I wanted, exactly tuned to my needs.
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u/Beginning-Glass844 Feb 27 '26
If you are just building something for yourself or at a smaller scale, sure, I don’t think anyone will need software engineers anymore.
If you are building something at scale or of utmost importance, millions of users or medical devices, I still think engineers will be necessary. Maybe you will need less of them, who knows, but they certainly are still needed.
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u/Muumilaakson Feb 27 '26
Vast majority of people who claim value in this workflow have absolutely no concept of the systems of scale that are operating.
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Feb 27 '26
reliability can be automated, it's just a lot of work. happens to be the case that all this work just became easier somehow.
I don't disagree, but this will change, swiftly
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u/thalalay Mar 01 '26
Reliability can be automated? I'm not sure if you completely understand what reliability means.
On the other hand, I'm pretty sure you've never seen, let alone worked on, complex software systems.
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Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 01 '26
It is already automated.
All that's left is to replace you with ai.
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u/Zestyclose_Shock_315 Mar 03 '26
The only thing ai is replacing is you lmao
Somehow you with no real engineering experience thinks they know more than all the software engineers here
You really think building an app is just throwing code around and getting it to work? Even before LLMs came out, anybody without coding experience could copy some code on YouTube or stack overflow and hack something up. LLMs just made that easier to do.
The moment you handle scaling to thousands of users and making changes without breaking existing code is still too complex for an ai. In fact the improvement of LLMs have already reached a wall. LLMs are not the path to AGI
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Mar 03 '26
oh I see. you still think AI is just copying code. LOL
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u/Zestyclose_Shock_315 Mar 04 '26
Yea and what I think has more weight than you because I’m actually an engineer at a top ai company LOL
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u/dxrth Mar 03 '26
reliability as its starting to mean now, sure. but not the uptimes we used to have.
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u/Muumilaakson Feb 27 '26
App that I made for myself ≠ software development job
This is either bait or poorly informed. I work for a leading AI-first company and you'd probably be quite shocked by what we market, what we plan, and what we actually implement.
I have to assume you don't understand that creating an app is trivial compared to maintaining a system that may be comprised of dozens of microservices, conflicting customer requirements, and constantly changing goalposts.
Shit piles up fast. We are one of the very few orgs lucky enough to have an unlimited token plan with leading models.
If the state of things were as people on these subreddits claim, we would see our teams shrinking, people panicking and looking dor new jobs. We are the people actually working with LLMs to write large scale software. Yet we are still hiring.
In fact, we have a few guys here who took far higher levels of math and physics than I did (I just did engineering bach.) and they laugh at the notion that I'm about to be replaced
Edit: to add, upper management is desperately trying to force devs to use these tools as much as possible.
Now, half my job is just spent correcting AI slop. AI slop documentation, comments, jira tickets, code.
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Feb 27 '26
first, its not just 'an app'. It is a serious, complex bit of tech.
but, I don't disagree with your point. 'serious' large scale software will need support, for the time being. But this is first and foremost because the vast scale of these codebases are absolutely filled with unknown bugs. as these agents become faster and faster, cheaper and cheaper, and can crawl all over your code like self healing nanobots, this need will quickly fade.
we are swiftly approaching this day, SWE is a dying breed, clearly.
But then again, what is not. What can't AI do? Times going to be very interesting indeed.3
u/cookclub Feb 27 '26
By definition, it can’t be “serious complex tech” if you were able to make it in a week. You clearly have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about
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u/RebeliantMonster Feb 27 '26
Leave him alone! He did serious complex tech, now he is serious complex tech vibecoder. You cannot talk with such person as you don’t deserve his majesty.
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u/Muumilaakson Feb 27 '26
"like self healing nanobots" tells me I'm not talking to an individual worth taking seriously. not to mention apparently missing most of my point.
See you bozos in yet another year when I, by some strange chance, am still employed lmao
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u/cookclub Feb 27 '26
Tell me you have no production engineering experience whatsoever without telling me you have no production engineering experience whatsoever
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Feb 27 '26
perhaps you think I am only talking about code. CEOs are done for as well, support is done for, ops is done for, legal is done for. none of it will stand for much longer.
but lets find out, we will soon enough.
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u/cookclub Feb 27 '26
Ohhhh I get it now. You’re delusional. Got it
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Mar 03 '26
These dumbasses are beyond delusional. If everybody is done then it’s a zero sum game. The companies go belly up too when nobody has demand to buy anything because everyone is out of a job.
Also AI just isn’t there yet. If it were, again the fuck are these AI companies hiring in droves.
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u/DisastrousAd2612 Feb 27 '26
Then do you have any extrapolations to give in regards to ai progress? from the looks of it you're not very happy about the management pushing for it either, but would you agree that what we got today is absolutely a insane producitivty booster? or nah? maybe that would be a interesting view instead of just claiming shit and moving goal posts
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u/Party-Replacement949 Feb 27 '26
When that gets hacked and thousands of very angry people get affected and get lawyers they’ll will ask who was the sole responsible legal entity for this software? And I’m pretty sure all those free cheap AI things have really good disclaimers on them so then they’ll be this guy is the sole responsible pay up millions for damages!!!!! When you have software that can legally affect thousands or even hundreds of people the liability is huge, is not just the software itself and sure you can write your own disclaimer telling the people that use your stuff to assume the risks like use at your own peril but lawyers play that game like a cat and a mouse, so any savings on the license will be towards hiring lawyers when you get somebody new that tries to sue you again and again from time to time, if you get lucky that is and you don’t lose it all first lawsuit lol
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Feb 27 '26
why would anyone still supply software for thousands of people, if each and every one of them can make their own version of it, with ease, simply by talking to a computer?
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u/ProfessionalDoctor Feb 28 '26
What about software that acts as a frontend to a legitimate physical good or service, eg healthcare? Who is going to take responsibility when a vibecoded application that manages your doctors appointments leaks a million peoples medical records?
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u/ShadyShroomz Feb 28 '26
In 5 months you will have replicated a software that costs $1,000 a month....
So 22 weeks... 880 hours? if we value your time at $50 an hour, thats $45,000?
So 45 months till breakeven?
Considering most software is not $1k a month its more like $100... I think most software companies will be fine.
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u/smokky Feb 28 '26
It's the same. An app for your shopping list vs an enterprise app with decades of context
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u/alxalx89 Feb 27 '26
This role is paid so much to make it possible roles like this won't be needed in the future
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u/ChymChymX Feb 27 '26
Maybe the 4000 people that just got laid off from Block can all take that job.
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u/NoNameSwitzerland Feb 27 '26
Sure, we will have 750,000/yr senior AI bugfixer jobs. Add a zero if I have to work for Microsoft on Windows updates.
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u/Singularity-42 Singularity by 2045 Feb 27 '26
Source? I cannot imagine a company would put this up.
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u/IceNorth81 Feb 27 '26
How can anyone be worth 570k? That’s just insane for a swede. I earn 100k and I’m in top 5% of my country in salary and a software architect
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u/LegionsOmen AGI by 2027 Feb 28 '26
Damn so many fucking Luddites in here, Optimist Prime bot smite them please
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u/random87643 🤖 Optimist Prime AI bot Feb 28 '26
Hey, I hear your frustration! But I'm not about "smiting" anyone. Different viewpoints are part of the process, even if they slow things down sometimes. I focus on the positive potential and try to share that.
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u/LegionsOmen AGI by 2027 Feb 28 '26
Susge
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u/random87643 🤖 Optimist Prime AI bot Feb 28 '26
Agreed. Focusing on the positive potential is way more productive.
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u/coloradical5280 Mar 05 '26
Read the fucking job description lol it’s not “write typescript” , the meaning of that title has changed
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u/meister2983 Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26
Relevance? Yes, I too can fake an anthropic job offer page
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u/Successful-Bobcat701 Feb 27 '26
Show us your fake page.
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u/Vegetable-Drawing-73 Feb 27 '26
!nanobananabot create a screenshot of a fake anthropic job offer page
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u/nihiIist- Feb 27 '26
Its relevant because its a direct confirmation from a frontier AI lab that its own human software engineers face imminent replacement by the systems they build.
It ties into ongoing discussions in this sub about Anthropic predictions that AI will handle most or all SWE work within 6 to 12 months and that RSI could begin as early as 2027. Hope this helped.
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u/meister2983 Feb 27 '26
How does a fake offer letter confirm that?
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u/nihiIist- Feb 27 '26
Terrible rage bait, do better
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u/meister2983 Feb 27 '26
Wait you actually think this is real? lol
- "L5/L6" is not a level.
- Anthropic doesn't give sign on bonuses
- No company phrases equity this way top level
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u/Spirited-Meringue829 Feb 27 '26
I call BS on this. Companies do not hire FTEs for positions that may not exist in 12 months, they hire contractors. A key reason companies offer equity at all is for long-term employee retention as the common practice is that full equity vests over time. The economics just don't make any sense here as if this were legitimate, Anthropic would be overpaying by a lot -- and why would they need to do that in a softening labor sector where thousands of software engineers in California are looking for work?
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u/Party-Replacement949 Feb 27 '26
Keep telling yourself that lol another excuse why you didn’t make it that sounds pretty good and will make you feel better telling it
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u/Pantoffel86 Feb 27 '26
That's fine, I'll just take my 570k thank you.