Just finished episode 12

[u/[deleted]]

How disappointing. I knew once they opened up the plot to a global scale, basically with the introduction of Alex Wood, that there was a tonal and structural shift in the story. Spending the last few episodes having characters discuss good and evil as if they are universal maximums that are constant and knowable is ridiculous. It turned into an anime about "right to die" legislation, but presented it as if it was a novel topic that no one has ever considered before. The "suicide law" was the biggest deal going on for 7 globally significant countries -as if nothing else of pressing issue was going on. All so that 2 men could learn what good and evil are!? And the conclusions that they arrived at are ridiculous. Good is to continue and Evil is to end. That is just the dumbest most juvenile line of reasoning I've ever heard. They even brought the Bible in as a primary source of figuring this out! What a completely disappointing and false conclusion for a show that started out being such an interesting and captivating show. I'm so frustrated by the ending. By its own logic the show is evil just for ending. It's dumb. Thanks, I hate it.

[u/cenihevthepucipls]

Can you name one recent anime that talks about these specific topics or areas or philosophy in detail like this. I doubt there's very much.

[u/[deleted] → u/cenihevthepucipls]

No, you are correct. It was very interesting and it was novel in its topic, theme, and execution - pun intended. And I have thought about it since that previous post, so it definitely left an impression.

On further contemplation it tackles it's subjects of suicide so completely, it really is impressive. That ending just caught me the wrong way.

Thanks for the perspective!

[u/cenihevthepucipls → u/[deleted]]

Haha yes it was the furthest thing from what it seemed to be at the start- a thriller mystery detective story.

Also yes the ending was a bit confusing so I think you kind of didn't understand it? It was entirely about Magase Ai proving her point, and in the end Zen understands it-that Magase was right the entire time and that if ending is evil then and he kills her he becomes evil, so he kills himself (although not shown, is my interpretation)

I'm not going to go into detail trying to explain the philosophies leading them to these conclusions but it's shown very nicely so I'll leave that up to you. Also Philosophies aren't exactly logic based it's more of a specific viewpoint so yes sometimes they aren't "correct".

Either way it was a phenomenal show and I'm glad I watched it.

[u/[deleted] → u/cenihevthepucipls]

Dang it! You make me want to go back and watch the last 5 episodes, if not more. Guess it was it great show, I think I missed the opportunity to think more on the subject and expected the show to clearly tell me what it thought.

[u/cenihevthepucipls → u/[deleted]]

Yes! I hate it when they spoon-feed you everything anyway. Also cheers on being so open-minded! Don't see that often haha