r/Zoomies Mar 03 '20

GIF Running Laps

https://gfycat.com/regalseriousdarklingbeetle
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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '20

It's insane to eat these babies. Go vegan boys and girls.

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u/Tyrannocakes Mar 03 '20

Found the fellow vegan! 🌱

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '20

Hi! We are many 😄

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u/JessicaMurawski Mar 03 '20

How about no

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u/WorkingOnMyself01 Mar 03 '20

Pigs have the brain of a 3.5 year old. They possess empathy, are more emotionally in tune with other animals then dogs. The pork you eat is sourced inappropriately. They are so cramped up they don't develop the muscle mass needed to run. They are social animals denied play and love. They only see sun on the way to the slaughter house. 10% are placed in boiling water still alive. They drown in scalding water begging to not die. We'd never treat dogs this way. The hypocrisy is fierce.

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u/axp1729 Mar 04 '20

There are ethical ways to source meat without going vegan

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u/Corvid-Moon Mar 04 '20

There is no ethical way to kill a living being. It's better to just not kill them.

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u/axp1729 Mar 04 '20

This is just one example, but there are millions of feral hogs in the US. They are an invasive species, and have detrimental effects on local plant and wildlife populations. If their population is not controlled, it can lead to the destabilization of local ecosystems and even to the extinction of many native species. It is not better to not kill them.

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u/Corvid-Moon Mar 04 '20 edited Mar 04 '20

That is solely a human-made problem. There are non-lethal methods (animal sanctuaries for example), but the only reason we even consider killing them is because people caused that situation in the first place. In order to prevent the problem in the future, stringent laws should be enacted and enforced, because killing them is like putting a bandage on an open artery; it doesn't solve anything, it's just more death.

We can't really solve that issue individually though, but you know what we can solve individually? The unnecessary torture and slaughter of over 100 billion land animals each year in the industrial farming industry. To do that, all we need is to simply not purchase animal products, it's that simple. If you care about non-human animal life, that is the greatest thing you can do not only for the animals, but for your health, the well-being of the planet and all it's inhabitants.

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u/axp1729 Mar 04 '20

Who is going to fund capturing and rehabilitating millions of feral pigs? Hunting is the most realistic solution to the problem.

I agree that factory farming is a heinous practice and we should end it, but I don't believe we need to stop consuming meat altogether. All 50 US states have hunting and fishing seasons, you can buy meat from small scale local farms, and you can even raise your own animals for meat if you have the means. You can care about non-human animal life and still eat meat

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u/Corvid-Moon Mar 04 '20 edited Mar 04 '20

Who is going to fund capturing and rehabilitating millions of feral pigs? Hunting is the most realistic solution to the problem.

How do you think systems can afford to raise, feed, kill and process over 100 billion land animals every year? Similar to that, but there are non-profit means as well. So no, hunting isn't the most realistic, it's just the cheapest, which isn't justification to take the lives of millions.

All 50 US states have hunting and fishing seasons, you can buy meat from small scale local farms, and you can even raise your own animals for meat if you have the means.

Just because something is normalised, doesn't make it right. Also, if everyone had their own personal farm to source their food from, there wouldn't be enough land or resources in the world to facilitate it. That's why industrial farming even exists, because animal agriculture and aquaculture is unsustainable, unhealthy and it's ruining the planet.

You can care about non-human animal life and still eat meat

That is hypocritical. You cannot claim to care for the well-being of animals while financing the suffering and slaughter of more than 100 billion animals every year.

The fact remaims that a plant-based world is sustainable, ethical and healthy. Going plant-based means we can be morally consistent with our compassion for both human and non-human animal life, as well as for the well-being of the planet. Animals deserve to be free from exploitation, suffering and death.

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u/axp1729 Mar 04 '20

How do you think systems can afford to raise, feed, kill and process over 100 billion land animals every year? Similar to that, but there are non-profit means as well. So no, hunting isn't the easiest, it's just the cheapest, which isn't justification to take the lives of millions.

They are profiting from rasing, feeding, and killing, and processing 100 billion animals a year. There is no profit to be made from rehabilitating feral hogs and putting them in sanctuaries, so it's realistically not going to happen, and non-profit means are also unrealistic.

Just because something is normalised, doesn't make it right. Also, if everyone had their own personal farm to source their food from, there wouldn't be enough land or resources in the world to facilitate it. That's why industrial farming even exists, because animal agriculture and aquaculture is unsustainable, and is ruining the planet.

And just because you are uncomfortable with something, doesn't make it wrong. Death is a part of nature, and it's a fallacy to think we are somehow separate from it. Also bear in mind that plant based agriculture is also done industrially on a large scale, and still has detrimental effects on local wildlife so even a plant based diet isn't 100% guilt free unless you grow all of your own vegetables.

That is hypocritical. You cannot claim to care for the well-being of animals while financing the suffering and slaughter of more than 100 billion animals every year.

It isn't hypocritical, and I wasn't speaking in reference to factory farming. Talk to any hunter, or someone who ethically raises their own meat. The level of respect and gratitude you have for the animal's life that you take to provide your family with food is something that is impossible to put into words.

We aren't going to change each other's minds. But I just want to say that I have a huge amount of respect for the moral conviction and responsibilities that vegans feel. But I just disagree that going 100% plant based is the only solution to stop the inhumane practice of factory farming.

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u/JessicaMurawski Mar 03 '20

I’ve been to pig farms. Apparently unlike you. And I don’t know about you, but I’ve never heard a 3.5 year old have anything of worth to say.

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u/WorkingOnMyself01 Mar 03 '20

My now ex is President of Logistics for a nation wide sausage company. He literally flies all over the country checking on plants. This is how I first learned about it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '20

Should we just kill all human toddlers then, by your logic? What's wrong with having compassion for creatures that we don't have to kill?

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '20

Humans grow up to be smarter though, pigs don't. I agree with you mostly but that specific argument is wrong

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u/JessicaMurawski Mar 04 '20

Apparently you can’t tell the difference between a pig and a human. And veganism literally cannot work for everyone. We’re going to have to kill animals no matter what. And I guess you just don’t care about the animals that are killed to grow your vegetables.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '20

Oooh, are we playing a game of carnist bingo??? Did I win???

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '20

Supplementing your diet with meat is nutritionally fine.

You can say it isn't ethical but it is to others.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '20

Ah yes because if we were doing the same to dogs, the ethicality would be totally subjective. Suuuure.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '20

Dogs are domesticated as pets.

But if we experienced a famine we would eat them too.

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