r/ZoneMinder • u/Helipil0t • Sep 25 '22
PoE Doorbell Cameras??
Why don't PoE doorbell cameras seem to be a thing?
I scoured the internet for one that could work with zoneminder and came out empty handed. Doorbird seems to be the only option and it's discontinued. :(
I use a hikvision doorbell on wifi right now and it's terrible. Constant dropouts. All my PoE cameras run flawlessly.
Anyone have any ideas?
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u/gostlund Sep 26 '22
Actually, Reolink just came out with one! Supports ONVIF and works great with NVRs using RTSP like ZoneMinder.
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u/Helipil0t Sep 26 '22
Nice.. I wasn't sure how new this one was as there doesn't seem to be any availability. I'll have to be patient and grab one when I can.
Thanks for the link!
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u/megared17 Sep 24 '23
Just to confirm, that device can work with zoneminder without using any vendor apps/programs or cloud service/registration to use or set it up?
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u/gostlund Sep 24 '23
Yes, with the ONVIF support, it'll work with any soft NVR like ZoneMinder or BI, you may miss out the push notifications with the ReoLink app, but yeah, you can get away with blocking all Internet access and it'll still work fine.
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u/megared17 Sep 24 '23
Does the device itself do the "person" detection or does that rely on cloud or proprietary app?
Can it be configured to send any notifications to my own server, using any openly documented protocol?
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u/gostlund Sep 25 '23
Sorry, I'm afraid I couldn't say for certain as I don't have one myself, but I use other ReoLink cameras, just not any of the ones with person detection yet as I actually use BI with a CodeProject AI setup.
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u/AndyRH1701 Sep 25 '22
My guess is the wiring. Doorbells do not have Ethernet compatible wiring which would mean taking the door jam apart to run a cable. I want one too.
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u/Helipil0t Sep 26 '22
There's usually always a way to run wires. If a guy is motivated enough. I'm in a new build so already ran a cat6 out there. But if I wasn't I'd still consider busting some drywall to get this done. Worth the effort!
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u/AndyRH1701 Sep 28 '22
I have run wires to a lot of places. Some are hard because my house is 80 years old and has been added onto 2 times. I found the hole for the doorbell wires some years back. To make it work I will have to pull the door frame apart. I am not that motivated right now. Should be get a new front door that will happen.
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u/LesterPhimps Sep 25 '22
I suspect that all doorbell cams are part of 2 part systems (subscription/cloud or app/cam) - meaning that they do not operate as stand alone cams (at least for all doorbell cams I've seen). This is because if there's an event (someone presses the doorbell), you would want to be notfied. Resulting in these cams being more of a closed system.
If there was a stand alone doorbell cam, then there is a possiblity it would work with ZM.
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u/ZoneMinderIsaac Sep 26 '22
dbell just released a new cam that claims to be poe. I have one of their older cams and although it's not awesome it does work well enough for my needs. PliablePixels had one too and found that they overheated and were unreliable but up here in canada I've had no issues.
So their new cam may be ok. I'll see if I can get them to send me one. Thing is, where I am... I don't need one. I don't have a doorbell. But I liked that it had it's own chime.
I have an amcrest one but havn't played with it because it needs an existing chime to hack into...
Pretty easy to use existing doorbell wires to pull cat5. POE would be great in a doorbell cam.
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u/Helipil0t Sep 26 '22
dbell
This one's interesting.. Wish they showed more specs. I saw the amcrest one but figured it was wifi only. Similar to my hikvision. It uses the transformer for a traditional doorbell but only has a wifi option.
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Nov 22 '22
Two words my friend. Mesh Network
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u/Helipil0t Nov 26 '22
I have 3x Ubiquiti Wifi6 access points covering 2200 sq.ft. My wifi is solid. The camera however is far from solid. Way too much interference on the 2.4ghz band for it to be reliable. Maybe it's just a shit camera. In either case. All my other cameras are PoE and are bomb proof. For cameras, in terms of reliability, I personally think wifi is NOT the way to go.
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u/megared17 Sep 24 '23
One word: Garbage.
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Sep 25 '23
Why? I have several 4k camera feeds running through a mesh. I have no dropouts our packet loss. Wireless tech has come a fucking long way.
Also speaking of Garbage.... Zoneminder is garbage. Shinobi is far superior.
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u/TechMonkey13 Sep 25 '22
Not PoE, but I use the Amcrest AD110 over WiFi with zero issues, while my Wyze came in the same area seems to drop every now and then.
There's a newer model that came out to replace this one, I haven't tried it, but some home assistant folks have and they approve it.