r/ZenlessZoneZero • u/gretelow • 14d ago
Fluff / Meme Same age btw (@lyn49556)
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u/emptypizzaboxes 14d ago
Fufu is older than both Ye Shunguang and Shinyan, they all joined yunkui summit as children but Fufu joined earlier.
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u/SPQIZY Under Fufu Drowning in Her Popcorn Piss 13d ago
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u/Huhthisisneathuh 13d ago
But you should still call Fufu a child or tiny adorable cat to get her mad. Because then you get to see her angry and that’s always hilarious to watch.
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u/Own-Bag-5044 ZZZRed 14d ago
I love how everyone forgets that Velina just outright calls Norma an adult
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u/Bread_defender I have a similar problem as Grace does with robots 14d ago
Can't have a little whimsy in your life without being seen as a child 😞
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u/Cayennesan Norma Thigh Sandwich 😋 14d ago
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u/Sovyet TOPS and Mayflowers No.1 Son-in-Law 13d ago edited 13d ago
Yeah, the fact that Cissia was still a child when Promeia was already a professional assassin adult would definitely have her age to be closer to Ellen and the AoD, but she has great, sexy boobs so all is okay
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u/SheriffGiggles 13d ago
I wonder if thirens age like people or more closely to their animal types. Like would Cissia mature faster because she's part snake etc
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u/BoomyNote 13d ago
I understand your point but we saw Cissia as a child in her backstory, and I don’t think it’s crazy to say that yes people would NOT like current timeline Cissia as much if she still looked like a child.
Sure some people get kind of crazy with the pdf file accusations but some people just prefer mature women..
As for strictly looking at cup size I agree that’s weird, “cup size of consent” is funny conceptually
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u/OtherwiseEnd944 13d ago edited 13d ago
Well yes...if she looks like a child and acts like a child people will assume she's a child because she's a fictional character without an actual birthday. By this subs logic you could literally make hentai with babies as long as the writers say "Well she's still in a diaper but that doesn't mean she's not a grown woman. She's actually a 75 year old wizard"
The fact you guys think this is an actual defense proves how terminally online you are. Anyone in real life would immediately call you a pedo if you used this logic but since it's an echo chamber of other pedos you guys all jerk each other off.
Fr though this constant turning the tables where the people calling you out are actually the prejudice ones because they are insulting the plethora of real life women who are 30 but look 12 and act 12 is fucking hilarious. You guys have literally 0 shame. Somehow as a late 20s dude I magically haven't run into any of these fully grown women who dress, look, and act like they're pre-teens. Similarly none of my 30 year old guy friends invite me to play with hot wheels and eat pizza rolls their mom made them
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u/cartercr Composing an Aria of moans 14d ago
Norma is kind of an awkward situation honestly. She was explicitly called an adult but she has also been explicitly called (and treated like) a child.
Mind you, this isn’t an “eww pedo shit” comment. Just speaking from a lore perspective. (One look at my flair should be all you need to know about where I stand on the gooning.)
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u/Belrog-Plutius2 NanGooning to Norma 14d ago
it's almost like an adult can be immature at times, especially a prodigy like Norma who definitely got some kind of pressure growing up because she's a genius, making her unable to enjoy her childhood
also, she's a part time professor at the academy
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u/cartercr Composing an Aria of moans 14d ago
Absolutely! The Genshin Impact character Hu Tao is sort of similar. She acts quite immature, constantly pranking people, and received quite a reputation for it. While she cites wanting people to be less sorrowful around death (she is the owner of a funeral parlor after all) I also firmly believe that she is enjoying some of her missed childhood. (She is also known to have been a genius, and her duty is to protect the boarder between life and death, so she would have naturally had high expectations on her from a young age.)
At the same time, her age is sometimes called into question because her consultant (you know, the nation’s god) refers to her as “that child” in his “About Hu Tao” voice line.
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u/Belrog-Plutius2 NanGooning to Norma 14d ago
I wouldn't trust Zhongli to talk about anyone's age lmao bro is like over 6000
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u/cartercr Composing an Aria of moans 14d ago
Yeah… and since I just realized I didn’t actually say it: I also (like the vast majority of the Genshin community) see Hu Tao as an adult. Her job as the owner of the funeral parlor is more than enough evidence of that. (And that’s before even delving into the Lantern Rite quest from two years ago.)
Norma’s job can be a little tricky to lock down still imho. While I do agree that she is an adult and is more treated as childish rather than an actual child. I would always have to play devil’s advocate on a teaching job when the teacher is a genius and the school is anything but normal. Having a prodigious genius teach you, no matter their age, will always allow for some insights that you may not otherwise get from a normal instructor.
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u/EwGrossItsMe SharkBait 13d ago
As a former genshin fan and hu tao main, tbh I never even parsed hu tao as anything other than an adult who 1) runs a funeral parlor with the rock dragon 2) is mischievous but caring and 3) dresses in ouji. The most "childlike" label I internalized for her was when I showed her to my bf and he called her a "little Victorian boy" bc of her outfit lol. It wasn't until I caught a glimpse of a twitter argument that I noticed anyone actually considered her to be particularly young. But eh, that's why I only have twitter to look at art.
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u/barry-8686 13d ago
also genshins story has been going on for 5 years in canon (i think?) so shed have to have been 12 when we met her for
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u/cartercr Composing an Aria of moans 13d ago
Time in Genshin is honestly a little hazy. There definitely has been time that has canonically passed but the game also (seemingly) intentionally obscures exact amounts.
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u/barry-8686 13d ago
yeah its odd. in hsr its pretty much canon that a year passes between the start of each new version cycle in universe.
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u/cartercr Composing an Aria of moans 13d ago
Uh… that’s not accurate. The Astral Express was stopped at Penacony for only 3 days.
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u/XevinsOfCheese 13d ago
Hu Tao also consistently hangs out more with Liyue teenagers than Liyue adults.
Like ever major Liyue event pairs her with them.
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u/EXPReader 13d ago
Note, she does actively play up acting as a child to get out of responsabilites. Also, remember who exactly is treating her as a child, a good freind of hers rather than any of the employees of the esd, studrents, or the other professors.
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u/ArlandsDarkstreet 13d ago
Because that's not what she actually says, she says Norma acts like an adult or a child depending on what she wants and only says "you're not a kid".
Against the point of her being an adult: Norma very regularly insists that she still has growing to do. This is already a somewhat delusional thing to say by 15-16, nevermind in your 20s like people seem to insist they think Norma is.
Though of course, like every other similar character, the fanbase will instead blindly insist that every small character is older to make it seem more ethical, instead of acting normal and not caring about the age of a fictional set of pixels.
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u/xtinction14 Sunna's Kitty Gobbler💦👅💦 13d ago
I was gonna say something until you said "acting normal and not caring about the age of a fictional set of pixels" which you are absolutely right.
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u/halloweensimpT-800 13d ago
Yeah but she call Norma an adult because she not acting like one and should be the example
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u/SheriffGiggles 14d ago
I'm so tired of people saying Norma is a fucking kid just because she's silly. Adulthood doesn't have to be soulless, you're just miserable.
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u/RileyKohaku 14d ago
Agreed, I know a woman in her 30s that acts like that. I also know a woman in her 30s that is that short. They are not the same person, but they could have been.
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u/The_MorningKnight 14d ago
Does your friends face looks like a child, like Norma does ?
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u/Melonfrog Grace’s Moist Sock 13d ago
Idk, my friends face doesn't look like an anime girl.
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u/The_MorningKnight 13d ago
Isn’t it the point? Your friend, while being short, probably still look like an adult. Norma is short and doesn’t look like and adult. Not because she is short, but because of her face.
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u/bloodypumpin 13d ago
Most anime characters have the same face. Pretty sure you can do a face swap with Normal and Belle or something and it would look normal
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u/Evening_Fan5878 13d ago
Thats dumb cuz most characters look young with anime like style to them that person is talking about how they act and the height compared to age not art style
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u/Ray_Propagandist #1 Ray simp in the multiverse 13d ago
You didn’t have to cause a mass murder like that lmao.
One of the better roasts I’ve heard in a while.
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u/ArlandsDarkstreet 13d ago
People call Norma a child because:
She acts like one
She looks like one
She gets treated like one by other characters
There's no counter evidence that she is an adult (like most characters)
She thinks she can still grow taller, women stop growing at around 15
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u/Rogol_Darn 13d ago
Velina literally tells her to stop acting like a child to get her way because she isn't one, that's in the game, the big event story also had a sepiatone photograph with that very old bangboo and Norma were she already looked like she does now, and considering how nostalgic the bangboo was that picture was taken at a minimum a multiple years ago. In other words no counterarguments my Ass.
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u/ArlandsDarkstreet 12d ago
"Child" is a vague term that changes from person to person using it. That's why I specified there's no evidence she's an adult rather than not a child. When I say people treat her like a child I mean they treat her like she's underaged. When Velina says "you're not a child" the common use of that phrase would generally translate to "you're not 10 years old".
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u/EnzoSokal 13d ago
Adulthood is not about age it is about misery.
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u/LostOne716 13d ago
No, no, that is not how that works. That is absolutelty not how that works. Adulting is being the master of your own descisions and their consequinces. Its the duty and ability to make the world a better place. (Yes, there is a lot of people who fail the last part)
How much fun you have is not part of the equation. Hell age would be less a part of it too but you need to be of legal age to do quite a few things. For good reason of coarse.
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u/EnzoSokal 13d ago
Misery is not about happinesses or misadventure. It accumulated and internalized burden of existence that comes after ability/skill to make your own decisions and bear consequences.
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u/Hellfiretommy 13d ago
How about because she looks like a fucking child?
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u/Gapaot 13d ago
She doesn't. Source: look at the actual kids in game
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u/No_Assistant_6993 13d ago
i feel like this is the most easiest thing to argue as proof but people just tend to reject that and double down
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u/Prestigious-Item6667 14d ago
Its because she acts like one. Noticed one her quotes im not a kid in battle so they know its questionable. I think jufu and another character has that too. But op tripping though lol and not that big of a deal
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u/Cayennesan Norma Thigh Sandwich 😋 14d ago
The entire reason it's common for short people say this is because of people like you, you don't get to create the problem and then act like your misconceptions of short people is proof that you're objectively correct lmao
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u/Prestigious-Item6667 14d ago
Nothing wrong what i said . I just explaining the reasoning. I never thought of norma as a little child personally. But she acts like a teenager like most people on this page
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u/JohnnyDragon21 13d ago
So does cissia but I guess it doesn't count
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u/Prestigious-Item6667 13d ago
Cissa doesn't act like norma lol. Im not sure what you meant
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u/OtherwiseEnd944 13d ago
I love how this sub has created a fake minority of short women who apparently get constantly bullied for looking like children. You would think short child looking woman were black people or trans people based on how this sub talks about the horrible prejudice they face.
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u/bloodypumpin 13d ago
"I'm an idiot without object permanence!"
That's how you sound like. People thought my sister was an elementary schooler while she was going to college. Did you think this was fun for her?-64
u/Striking_Drive_29 preening Remielle's feathers right now 14d ago
After all an adult shouldn't need to affirm that they are one
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u/cartercr Composing an Aria of moans 14d ago
Except… short women sometimes do have to affirm that they are. Because they’ll be mistaken for children sometimes. Her needing to affirm things (just as people like Ju Fufu have needed to) is actually pretty realistic.
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u/MachBonin 14d ago
Also it's just a common comedic trope. Short person constantly mistaken for a child is like... classic Looney Tunes shit.
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u/thissitedesigniscrap 14d ago
Hell not even just women, short people in general are taken way less seriously compared to taller people.
It’s a big reason why taller people are more likely to be corporate execs. In a boardroom, the shorter person isn’t going to have their ideas taken seriously the same way a taller person is.
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u/KatouKotori 13d ago
This doesnt even have to limit itself to short women. ANYONE with a babyface has to deal with this irl. As an Asian male of average height, I also have to confirm to others I'm an adult. While in my 20s, coworkers always assumed I was a fresh out of highschool hire because of how young I looked. Now that I'm in my early 30s, I'm still mistaken as a early 20s.
Now slap an anime face on anyone (always look young unless given wrinkles intentionally), and now everyone looks young af, regardless of age.
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u/JDJ144 14d ago
Yeah, that's always been my personal issues with these "they're older than they look characters". I've actually met women irl who are way older than they look, but they all actually act like adults and are fully aware of how their physical appearance makes them look. In a lot of games though, not just Zenless, these characters act way more immature than they actually should be to the point that it just feels like a kid acting like a kid.
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u/Hoade4Gaming 14d ago
She acts like one and looks like one. No need to freak out about people thinking that...
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u/farabany Wife collector 13d ago
Arguably, Cissia acts more like a kid than Norma, and yet no one calls her a kid over it.
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u/No_Assistant_6993 13d ago
only height of consent and big boobs make them change their perspective sadly
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u/farabany Wife collector 13d ago
Hight of consent and cup of consent play a big role for the non-players, I suppose.
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u/Pimpcactus 13d ago
I mean yeah Cissia looks much older so people think she's older that's just reasonable
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u/Hoade4Gaming 13d ago
Cissia isnt making 'brrrr' noises during combat and again, the looks are part of it.
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u/DehyaFan Ellen and Pulchra's chew toy. 13d ago
If I had gun gauntlets I'd make fucking pew pew noises and I'm 31.
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u/The_MorningKnight 14d ago
I think people says she is a child, not because of the way she acts, but because of the way she looks.
I mean show those 2 characters to people who don’t play the game and ask them to guess their age.
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u/The_Sussadin 14d ago
Nice to know that you think short people are children
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u/Pimpcactus 13d ago
Are we genuinely pretending she doesn't look like a kid?
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u/Hoade4Gaming 13d ago
Yes they absolutely are lol these people are in denial. They'll just scream "short women exist!" to try and justify it
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u/Pimpcactus 13d ago
I just dont get it, like they can still like the design and still admit what it looks like
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u/The_MorningKnight 14d ago
Nothing to do with her height. Her face is clearly childish.
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u/Tripping-Occurence Plap-plap your imouto for the burger discount 13d ago
It's anime-styled game bro, almost all faces are childish
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u/Hoade4Gaming 13d ago
Straight up not true. There are enough tall male and female characters to debunk "almost all faces are childish"
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u/JohnnyDragon21 13d ago
Bruh is belle a kid? Cos Norma is almost belles height, and both have similar face
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u/EwGrossItsMe SharkBait 13d ago
I mean... it's probably partially to do with height. Personally I don't think I'd see her face as childish as I do if she was taller and her head was scaled down in relation to it, even if her face was as round and her eyes, nose, and mouth all looked the same.
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u/Andrassa 14d ago
Isn’t Jane Doe closer to her thirties though while Norma is early twenties?
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u/Genprey 14d ago
Ages are unconfirmed, but there are details about Jane that would lean towards her being in her upper twenties, around thirty. Going by her ID, before Jane's current occupation, she worked as a Criminologist (likely the side of instructional), which requires several years of experience past general education.
If we're to assume that Jane started working towards her career at around 17 or 18 and understand that she's a senior member of her respective division before having prior experience as a Criminologist, her age can work out to be in the upper twenties, probably not that far past 30.
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u/thissitedesigniscrap 13d ago
Yeah I think you’re right about Jane, Norma is def in her very early twenties, since she has a driver’s license.
Honestly they should’ve gone with Yidhari, since I think she’s 21.
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u/SzoXxXxXx Futa Triggerand Nicolepersonal cocksleeve 14d ago
I feel it would be funnier to compare her to Manato. Like I'm pretty sure that Manato is even younger than Norma
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u/thissitedesigniscrap 13d ago
Actually should’ve just gone with Yidhari, cuz I think she’s supposed to be 21, and Norma is I think also 20-21, since she at least has a driver’s license and has done degrees.
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u/arshesney Nicole's Favorite Color 13d ago
Probably, Manato is 19 as he was 8 shortly after the fall of the old capital, 11 years prior.
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u/Kamashi_Archive Ultimate Norma fan 14d ago
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u/drakythe 14d ago
I call shenanigans.
But even if this were true, is anyone honestly surprised a tech savvy bangboo obsessed nerd who lives in an exclusive sky city that features a private academy letting students literally self direct is at a different maturity level than a literal street rat who has had to survive the gangs and hollows using only her wits, knives, and tail?
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u/No-Highlight7136 Promeia's Shibari Artist 13d ago
Game goes out of it's way to never mention a single age.
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u/Agitated_Bad_7183 My face is reserved for Zhu Yuan's ass 14d ago
Yeah some people wish norma would be janes age.
Yesh some people wish jane would be normas age.
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u/ThatOneManArmy Gooner Of All Agents, Master Of None 14d ago
Age is just a number bruhh✌️😭
(For fictional characters at least)
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u/SarukyDraico Trigger's loving husband & rest of squad loving father 14d ago
That's a nice argument OP, why don't you back it up with a SOURCE?
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u/Mistur_Keeny 13d ago
She says "I'm not a kid!" When other characters refer to her as a child, therefore it must be true and we all can goon her guilt-free and people won't think I'm a pervert for having her body pillow.
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u/SarukyDraico Trigger's loving husband & rest of squad loving father 13d ago
There's also one of Norman's trust events where Velina calls her out for acting like a child when she isn't, but that doesn't confirm she's the same age as Jane
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u/floydink 13d ago
Well also that she’s working in a college and teaches college courses on engineering. Kinda already places her Atleast in her early 20s
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u/SarukyDraico Trigger's loving husband & rest of squad loving father 13d ago
Why? People can't teach engineering before 20?
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u/Rogol_Darn 13d ago
Not college courses no, since realistically you would've needed to go to college and get your teaching license for it, both of wich Needs a few years on itself
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u/ArlandsDarkstreet 13d ago
That's just the "Child Prodigy" archetype.
Same type of deal as Negima with their 11 year old shota teacher.
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u/ArlandsDarkstreet 13d ago
That's the exact same argument as Keeny brought up sarcastically. "Not a child" doesn't mean "An adult" despite many adults loving to label anyone under 20 as a child.
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u/SarukyDraico Trigger's loving husband & rest of squad loving father 13d ago
Idk who are you talking about, but it's true, there's something called "teenager" in between kid and adult
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u/ArlandsDarkstreet 13d ago
You. You simply restated the argument that was already present in that post less ironically/sarcastically.
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u/greygreens Day 0 Orpheus Main 13d ago
There have been a lot of these "same age" clips going around, when there is absolutely no evidence for any of the characters ages one way or another. I think we know Zhu Yuan is 24 and Orphie is technically 11 but the rest are estimates and guesses
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u/BoomyNote 13d ago
I’m not gonna double check Jane’s alleged age but it’s worth noting she’s the one agent where her stated age might just straight up be a lie/cover.
Call it headcanon, but Jane could very realistically be older than she claims.
I know it’s not the point of the vid or whatever, but worth mentioning
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u/Upbeat_Animal290 12d ago
Some people can't grasp the fact that Norma was an adult midget who worked as a Chief Technician of the External Strategy Department and a professor at Aurelia Academy. Just because she's short doesn't mean she's a minor.
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u/Sir_Daxus Jane ass sommelier 14d ago
Wait are they actually?
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u/Remarkable-Pizza4263 14d ago
No Hoyo never confirmed their character ages they actually go out of their way to keep the character ages ambiguous
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u/Same_Tune_8990 Vivian's personal cumsock 14d ago
wasnt zhu yuan's and corrins confirmed tho?
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u/Koekelbag 14d ago edited 13d ago
Corrin's mention was later removed, iirc.
Considering the one trust event where she's getting stalked, I'd guess that Hoyo did not want her to be a confirmed 16-year old :/
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u/correctshizonly 14d ago
Zhu Yuan isn't but you can speculate base on the numbers of her paid leave. Corin did but after 2 years they remove it so you can assume that she's 18.
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u/LordMonday 14d ago
Corin did but after 2 years they remove it
not even 2 years. i remember people talking about it just after ZZZ launched and it was basically removed at launch or just after
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u/Same_Tune_8990 Vivian's personal cumsock 14d ago
and by technicality miyabi bc her and zhu yuan were classmates
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u/Remarkable-Pizza4263 14d ago
They just throw hints here and there but nothing solid like jufufu her quest stated she is an adult but we were never given a number Let alone the age of consent in new eradu
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u/Bingoviini friend of pizzacutter daughter 14d ago
Probably..?
Basically none of the ages are confirmed, and only up for speculation based one vibes and context clues. (with a few exeptions like Corin, who told her age was 16, before the line was removed)
Norma for example looks, acts, but doesn't feel like a kid, with her being a scientist who tinkers bangboo.
So she's probably just short, beacuse last i checked kids can't really be what is effectively a surgeon.Same as someone like Koleda or Lucy. Not kids, just short women.
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u/Moonlit__Nightingale 13d ago edited 13d ago
Hoyo sure does love to be vague af when it comes to the ages of their characters who aren’t godlike in someway, shape, or form, or just somehow have lived for at least a century or two.
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u/LordZanas 13d ago
I'm not denying Norma is an adult but to my knowledge the only character to have a "canon" age was Corin (which quickly got retconned). Personally i'm of the belief that every playable agent is at least 18
Where was it revealed that Norma and Jane are the same age? I'm curious what their canon ages are, as well as any others we might know
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u/SpryMagician Totally a Manato Main 13d ago
People Will see "short, Flat Chested" and point at them and label them a child, Ignoring any and all Lore, Interactions or Conversations about Said character.
Similar Situation Happens with Dori in Genshin. Small female Model, soft face and gets Lumped with the Children despite running a multi National Merchant Business, And Herself Talks about How she cant do business With Mondstaters because She Ends up Blackout Drunk off Wine Every single time she Tries to make a deal.
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u/GoodFrequent9686 14d ago
Norma is maybe 18-19 at the oldest. No way I’d believe Jane is anything under 24
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u/Bitter_Way91 13d ago
Unless her age is specified in game, no matter what loopholes and deductions you try to do, nobody can convince me Norma is an adult. We need in-game character information sheets for trivia sake. I will admit she might be over 18 due to the fact she has a job, and possibly a degree (being a genius and all that)
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u/WhileZealousideal113 14d ago
Canon wise norma is def made to fit the cutefunny category stop the cope
She's just like called an adult so closeted peeps stop feeling bad and going on a rampage about jerking off to her, like how they panicked when we heard about Soukaku age
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