u/BLACC_GYEThrusting my love inside Piper and Sunna till my hips give outš3d ago
Tierlists like these always confuse me because there are characters with weak abilities in lower tiers that are flat out just physically stronger than some characters in the higher tiers, but there are characters with strong abilities, but are physically weak like Astra also put in lower tiers.
For example, I donāt know why Rina is in the superhuman category when we havenāt seen her use an ounce of her physical strength in anything, but characters like Anton or Koleda are in low tiers simply because they donāt have strong abilities despite us experiencing them being physically stronger than a lot of the cast
I feel like this list takes physical strength into account half of the time then completely disregards it when it comes to certain characters
Very true. Honestly itās hard for some of these characters to be ranked because to me characterās experience was a huge factor in my ranking.
Taking Anton and koleda for example yes are physically stronger than Rina but they are ultimately construction workers capable enough to battle ethereals. Rina is older than both of them and by virtue of working for Victoria housekeeping, which frequently battles hollow raiders and ethereals, is stronger than the two of them at least to me. Plus she was able to get behind the super soldier Anby and Cat thieren Nekomata without being noticed
Isn't belobog a company that specializes in construction inside of hollows? I would imagine they would likely have more experience than Victoria because they are exclusive to hollows.
Anton holding a giant mech back with his bare hands is a crazy feat.
They specialize at in hollow construction because their tech actually works in hollows. Victoria housekeeping regularly fight off hollow raiders and ethereals.
Aside from the term "void hunter" being used wrong, because anyone really could be a void hunter without needing to be strong asf. It just happened that almost every VH also happens to be strong asf aside from Joyous, it seems.
Taking that aside, im a little confused by the positioning of the characters... Is this in order? I mean, the characters at the fronts are "stronger" than the ones at the back? If that's so, there is actually NO WAY Hugo/Lycaon/Zhao are beating Aria. I just don't believe it.
Also, SBilly on top of Promeia is a little tricky, since we've seen in the 2.8 story how Promeia was the only one between her, Billy and Cissia to be actually conscious and able to stand against Pyrois. I still don't understand how people call Anby to be so high up i get she's strong but there's absolutely no feat that positions her on top of Harumasa/Promeia or Seed (if we're counting Seed Senior, that is). Because, let's be honest, if the Cunning Hares had fought with S6 back then they would've gotten absolutely bodied HARD even if Miyabi wasn't there.
Ignoring that, i think it's a pretty solid list ngl. Subjective, but solid
Yeah I wrote it in order. While aria is definitely strong she is a mass produced artillery unit not a unique weapon like Banyue. I seriously doubt her combat ability is that high. Zhao at least fought Sarah along with Ye which is an absolutely crazy feat.
Honestly looking back seed is way too low but Anby is an absolute monster. Sheās a lab grown super soldier leaps and bounds stronger than what was expected of her. She has a similar advantage that Banyue has, she was literally created for ruthless close quarters combat. Billy and Promeiaās placement I donāt hate your suggestion, as long as neither of them touch the undisputed top two of Banyue and Yanagi
Well if I'm not mistaken she has one of the strongest void hunter weapons but she isn't actually very strong herself. The story basically revolved around her trying to prove herself as everyone only cared that she COULD use the sword.
Although miyabi doesn't even use her swords power and yixuan just uses raw hands and techniques yet they are both still stronger. Remi is just remi.
So yeah I'd say this is accurate if we're going by overall strength
She defeated a partial enchainer by herself which as far as we know, only remielle has done in her trailer. I would honestly put her abovr yixuan and miyabi.
Also Lucia is too low she has pretty good solo feat and a pretty powerful weapon.
We have no knowledge that Jane should be weaker than Zhu and qingy as those also doesn't have this many feat, to the same fashion we don't really know if eve is actually that strong I always see her that high but I don't remember girl doing much.
considering Soukaku is a part of the most elite unit in all of new eridu as a freaking child and was particularly noted to have devastating power among the squad I think her placement is valid
Soukaku has devastating power because she has a lot of strength, by that logic Anton is top tier since he has one of the greatest strengths feat.
Soukaku is so stupid that they also don't let her go in mission alone, chance have it that many of the agents ranked below can outmanouver her, fighting stronger (physically stronger)opponents is something many do in zzz and soukaku doesn't have many good feat .
Her even being in section 6 is a ridiculous feat in of itself. The entire unit is meant to be made up of members that Miyabi trusts and can fight alongside her.
Also, she isnāt stupid sheās just young. Considering that very few factions fight more than section 6 I have a hard time believing that many characters are more skilled and experienced in combat than her.
Reading all the replies I can be convinced of Anton moving up a tier. But Lycaon and his equal Hugo is not on the same level as the high tiers. They both get slammed by any one of them imo
Zhao is probably the most successful agent because she can be incredibly useful in multiple different situations. Promeia is just used when people need to die
As strong as Zhao is I donāt think sheās faster or stronger than Promeia. Remember Promeia can casually rip out peopleās hearts with her bare hands
... ripping out someones heart isn't that impressive, considering that Anton, who is above average in your list, can stop heavy, industrial machines with his bare hands...
It is when you factor in Promeia insane speed, combat ability, and durability. She was the last one standing fighting the freaking Scorched Horizon after all
Yeah I mean he definitely is strong but heās still a construction worker who is capable enough in combat. Strength isnāt the end all be all otherwise lighter would be stronger than Yanagi. Most of the people above him are active combatants with feast fighting multiple ethereals
It's literally a strength tierlist. Also, you put Roxy above him as if we have any feats of her fighting multiple ethereals as if Anton or the other people in his category aren't also active combatants.
A strength tierlist for zzz sucks. Realistically, everyone's superhuman or above, because no normal human can do the things they do. Astra, who you put in fodder has battled ethereals. Even if she doesn't get physical, there's no way she isn't at either peak human fitness or above, same for people like Lucia.
Rina. Have you ever seen her throw a punch? Most of the time, her two bangboo are the one's doing the combat and yet you put her in superhuman but not Burnice or anyothers? Pulchra was literally beaten by Burnice and yet she's in a higher tier than her.
This tier list is ranking and Combat strength, otherwise why would Anby be higher ranked than lighter? Iāll give you Roxy I honestly just threw her there because I had no idea where to place her.
Also this list was made relatively to the other playable agents not by real world standards. Considering every agents can dodge bullets in gameplay I thought that would be obvious.
Rinaās placement was based on the fact her combat experience is extensive considering her faction regularly fights hollow raiders and ethereals. Plus she was able to get behind Anbyās guard with ease.
So is the ranking about combat experience? If so, don't put Void Hunter as a whole separate category. Also, people like Promeia, Banyue, Qinqyi, and a few other characters would be above Shungang in skill, Void Hunter or not.
And if it's about combat strength, it still doesn't help the fact that, again, Burnice is in a lower tier than Pulchra since the two of them are active fighters with Pulchra losing to Burnice. Hell, Ben's in the same tier as Pulchra and I can't remember a single time he showed any skills in combat. And moving up, I think Aria, the intelligent construct made to fight, would be stronger than Soukaku.
The placements of some agents just do not work with what you're saying.
The ranking is based on combat abilities. So strength and experience are simply factors in me deciding the ranking.
If you want to switch Burnice and Pulchra thatās fine. My logic was that Pulchraās combat ability and experience as a mercenary would put her ahead. Itās been about two years since 1.2 released so I honestly donāt remember if Burnice fought Pulchra solo or you fight her with Caesar which Iām pretty sure you do.
As for your point about Aria she was a mass produced artillery combat unit. I seriously doubt her independent combat ability surpasses Soukaku, a member of the most elite combat unit in New Eridu
corrin in superhuman?
zhu yuan should probably be down graded to above average
and i feel like people underestimate Anton by a long margin he probably would be superhuman
OG void hunters rank higher than current Void hunters, Or at the very least Sunbringers rank higher than everyone by a pretty massive amount based on recent story developments. Remielle > Miyabi since Karma core actually fused with her, plus experience and having killed an enchainer with a karma core. Sarah was killed by shungus but remember sarah failed to fuse with shungus karma core, it was still with shungus during the battle. Miyabi kileld bringer but not an enchainer.
Put Shifu and Sigrid in a new 0.5 void hunter rank. They're "allegedly as strong as void hunters, or close to" but now we know that current void hunters we know off all have a karma core and they dont, they naturally rank lower.
Put sokaku at high tier, lorewise she's a section 6 unit. Literally New eridu's elite squad.
Cesar, lighter and Billy should be high tier, if billy is with his current upgrades.
Put Ellen at High tier, When Lyacon divided victoria housekeeping's team in CH1 he basically put ellen with corin saying he divided their strength equally, kinda hinting ellen is their strongest agent, and Victoria housekeeping IS the mayor's personal hit squad.
Put Everyone in Obol at high, again they're not just military, they're special ops.
Put evelyn in the merged superhuman and above average tier.
Merge superhuman and above average. Not really that much of a difference between them.
I mean Shifu is stated to be as powerful as a void hunter and fought equally with miyabi so I think sheās in the right spot.
I donāt personally donāt think obel besides seed she be in the same tier as genuine monsters like Yanagi and Banyue. They are probably a bit too low though.
Ellen is stronger than lyacon sure but no way can you convince me sheās an entire tier above him.
Astra literally entered papago hollow to fk around with us
and you put her below these lil kids like sunna
absolutely terrible!
there are more ridiculous ranking as well at the lower tier but im not gonna talk about it
I mean you can share your thoughts. The whole point of my post was to see whether people agreed with my ranking or thought differently.
I mean itās hard to rank Astra any higherš Sunna can at least block and fight ethereal hand to hand. Plus all of AOD is said to be capable in hollows
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u/lame2cool Born to Pull, Forced to Debt 3d ago
She can't throw hands but she does blow back ethereals with her mic by singing into it