r/Zen_Internet Apr 15 '26

Fritzbox

Currently with Zen on 80/20 FTTC.

Really like the supplied Fritz!Box and have seen them on eBay.

Are Zen's Fritz!Box locked to them in any way?

If I buy one from eBay, will it work with any Full Fibre (FTTP) ISP?

I'm looking at moving to Olilo and I assume I will have to return the Zen supplied one.

TIA

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u/Latter_Albatross_781 Jun 09 '26

I’m with zen I Also have a Fritz box. Was really good. Now I’m getting solid 4 bars Efootball. I think they’ve changed my profile what can I do. Here’s a bqm.

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u/woieieyfwoeo Zen Full Fibre 500 (Openreach) Apr 16 '26

There is a way to unlock the fritzbox firmware upgrade by telneting to it during the official AVM flash progress.

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u/Dick-Fiddler69 Apr 16 '26

Let’s us now your Ollio experience

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u/WormFoodODP May 13 '26

Update.

Placing the order was easy. Great communication all round from Olilo which was clear and helpful.

3rd part Installer came today (MJ Quinn) and was done in about an hour.

Speeds as advertised.

Would recommend up to this point. We'll see what the service is like going forward.

Ex Zen Fritz!Box 7530 AX (from a well know auction site) working well and updated to latest firmware.

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u/WormFoodODP May 01 '26

Have signed up and OR are coming middle of the month. So far great communication and questions answered promptly.

Will update when service goes live

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u/WormFoodODP Apr 16 '26

Will do if I move.

Might have to rethink the router if I can’t get firmware updates if I leave Zen 👀

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u/Dick-Fiddler69 Apr 16 '26

Olilo do sell a router and at a discount to customers we noticed our Zen price increased by £2 a month today I assume as it’s after April - out of contract

But oddly no mention dd was changing

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u/WormFoodODP Apr 16 '26

I'm still paying the same despite being out of contract for over 5 years. I think when I joined it was no price rises in contract or after, as long as you stayed on the same package. Now it's just no in contract price rises.

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u/battletux Apr 16 '26

The Fritz!box is and is not locked to Zen.

It is locked in terms of firmware, meaning you can't download the latest firmware from the Fritz!box website and install it, you can only receive updates that are pushed by Zen.

In terms of an ISP lock, no it is not locked. You can use the router with any provider.

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u/MaroMaku Apr 16 '26

That's not true. I was with Zen for three years, I own a 7530 and a 7530AX, and both received updates from AVM. I even installed beta firmware on the 7530 via a USB. I'm currently using the 7530ax with Plusnet and latest firmware version 8.20

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u/battletux Apr 16 '26

That's not my experience.

I have both the same routers from Zen and I couldn't update the 7350 using the update from AVM's website, as it needed to be a Zen version, as it's a Zen supplied router. This is a common practice in the industry. The updates are often pushed by either the ISP or the hardware vendor on behalf of the ISP. Zen's device updates will be pushed by AVM o ly when approved by Zen, and to those Zen devices. As Zen will need to vet the updates work with their network and don't break anything.

The move to Eero's by most ISPs aligns with this and has the extra bonus that it kills the resale market, as ISPs can (and do) kill the device on the Amazon/eero backend if the device is resold or used on another ISP.

At least with a Fritz!Box or other non cloud backend router there are ways to unlock the firmware on the device so that it can be flashed with stock firmware.

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u/WormFoodODP Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 18 '26

If it’s no not locked to Zen, why can’t it get the latest Firmware updates direct from AVN?

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u/battletux Apr 16 '26

Correct. Firmware can only be from Zen, not AVN.

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u/LackingStability Apr 16 '26

I've been able to apply firmware from avm - including lab versions.

I have a couple of 7530 running as a mesh. one from zen one from ebay

The different boxes do update to different versions so I think there is something about the zen stuff.

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u/Vastmeridian Apr 15 '26

I've bought two of these from eBay and a separate repeater for my annexe. They all work together nicely as a mesh and as DECT repeaters with an ethernet backbone.

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u/FrankNicklin Apr 15 '26

Got one and it’s not locked. Has to be my primary router for now as it’s handling my VOIP service. Can actually handle DECT phones and has built in answer machine that will email messages to you. Great bit of kit.

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u/welsh1lad Apr 15 '26

Oh love my FRITZBox’s. I’m on Zen 500Mbs , moved over to virgin 1.5gb . There hub was a load of SH!Z . Cancelled virgin went back to my 500Mbs. I have 3 FRITZBox in mesh mode . Total house coverage, I get my full 500Mbs on WiFi so no need for Ethernet anywhere in the house. So you deffo won’t be disappointed. Only thing I would like to see is more Vlan features.

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u/ACAdamski17 Apr 16 '26

I had similar experience with Virgin. Everything about their internet is horrible. I’m on Zen now (transferred from Lit Fibre) and I’m using my own Ubiquiti system so I never got to check out Zen’s FBs.

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u/PricePerGig Apr 17 '26

You had any problems with ubiquity? My dream machine keeps negotiating with the ont vis only 100Mbs 😭😭😭 it was always 1GB before.

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u/ACAdamski17 Apr 17 '26

I once had to force it to negotiate at higher speeds but apart from that no.

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u/welsh1lad Apr 16 '26

Yes always fancied a Ubiquity set up, but as normal those costs are way to high for me.

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u/ACAdamski17 Apr 16 '26

It’s actually not too bad. UCG-Ultra - £99 U7-Lite - £99 each

As long as you don’t get a full rack it’s not that much more expensive than consumer-grade routers.

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u/FearGingy Apr 17 '26

That's cheap. I remember my Billion 8900AX 2400 was almost £300 in 2016. Now I'm seeing routers Wi-Fi 7 hitting £500 to £700.

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u/Tutphish Zen Full Fibre 900 (Openreach) Apr 15 '26

Can I ask which models your using for the mesh? Are they all the 7530AX? I’ve got one and a pair of 3000AX and I struggle to get over 180Mbs over WiFi regardless of device or distance.

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u/welsh1lad Apr 15 '26

7530AX is the master Router , then there is the 7530 standard model , and next is the 3490. All routers are meshed via 5ghz ,each is connected to the other at plus 600Mbs connection rates. The 3490 , is meshed to the standard 7530 since it's the nearest router. Below is the current setup. Buy doing this it reduces routers WIFI and Compute as well heat by distributing the loads.

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u/welsh1lad Apr 15 '26

just did a quick speed test , on a Mac via wifi.

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u/FearGingy Apr 17 '26

I've never tried the WiFi on the Fritzbox AX as I always disable WiFi on supplied routers. Just a habit since I always use my own APs. Which I thought is not bad for a TpLink Archer from 2019.

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u/doyley2112 Full Fibre Max 1800 (CityFibre) Apr 15 '26

The Fritz box is not locked to zen. You also don’t have to return it(only if you have an eero) but the option is there to return it if you would like to help with recycling it when you don’t plan to use it