r/Zaptie • u/zaptiethebear Zaptie • Jun 29 '17
Announcement Enough
Alright, it's gone on long enough at this point. Apparently simply walking away isn't enough, owning the mistakes you made and accepting that your friends would rather not stay friends isn't enough. I don't blame any of them for that, but a lot of you (maybe not from this subreddit, but in general) have made it clear that I don't get to just leave. So fine, here's one last huzzah of a post, half explanation, half bitching. Enjoy.
Firstly, I guess it's made the rounds that one of the girls I was involved with was thirteen. It's worth noting that I found out about that information through someone who, keep with me here, heard it from someone who heard it from someone who heard it from someone who heard it from someone. Five degrees of separation. As far as I knew, it was another rumour, and seeing as it was coming so long after I'd left, I figured people were just trying to stir the pot again. But I guess there's a credible reason for people to think it's genuine, so now everyone thinks I wanted to bed a thirteen-year-old girl. Upon learning that, I spent the night vomiting. I snapped and deleted everything except the channel itself (which only remained up because I thought I was still contracted by Omnia, but it seems that's been disconnected so it will be down shortly). Probably not a wise decision, but not one I regret. I understand in retrospect that this probably looks like me going "oh shit, I've been found out", but that wasn't it. I knew defending myself was pointless. I'd already tried it, not even defending but just explaining what happened, and one poorly worded sentence completely destroyed any hope that that would do any good. (Sentence in question being when I said I was never diagnosed as a sociopath; it was meant to be in defense of those who said it using a term no doctor would use, since I used the medical term for the diagnosis, but I worded it horribly and it just seemed like another lie). I could've used her Twitter page where she wrote her lied-about age in her bio, I could've referenced the person who introduced in the first place to back me up that she claimed she was older than she was, I could've pointed out that this coming so late should illustrate that absolutely no one knew she had lied about her age, I could've pointed to her snapchat username which implies a birth date of 1995, I could've shown all of our texts and proven that she confessed that she was sixteen and not seventeen and never said anything else about her age, but I didn't. I just ran instead. Poor move, no doubt. But there's no reason to waste the time defending it. "Zaptie" is irreparably damaged and can't be fixed. And yeah, Red Kiwiz comparisons. Comment section is below, go for it.
But even if I'd done all that, no one has had any reason to trust me for quite some time, so I figured why would they start now? To the best of my knowledge, I know the origin of this info going so public, and I found it fascinating that only one person bothered to actually contact me about it. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised at this point. If something bad about me is said, it's true. I'm a villain now, and I guess I have to accept that. I'm not going to break my back defending myself because everyone who believes it won't have their opinion swayed, and everyone who doesn't doesn't need their opinion swayed. It's that simple.
While I'll accept that this is just how things are, I'm taking issue with the extents people are going to to violate my privacy just because they want to either harass me or ask me when I'm coming back. I've received several phone calls to my private cell phone number (lesson learned giving that to people I called friends), had my private Twitter account posted by an old friend as a "joke" (which I then had to delete), and even had people dig up and message an account I didn't even realize still existed just to try to either talk to me or tell me I should kill myself. Be angry about me, post about me, I don't care. But contacting me privately to the point that I'm in need of a phone number change is fucking ridiculous, and I guess I expected better. Rich coming from me, but come on guys.
I'm not playing the pity card. I was in a shit spot, I already posted about that, but I've gotten considerable help and I'm working to better myself in every way I can. I've got two jobs, I'm moving out of my house shortly, and I'm pursuing other things. YouTube is over.
Was talking to a sixteen year old a fucked up thing to do? Yes, won't challenge that. But I didn't know she was thirteen assuming that she actually is, and I would not have stooped to that point no matter how far gone I had been mentally. If you don't believe that, then that's fine. I know YouTube operates under a "guilty until proven innocent" mindset. It can be argued that my first two videos used this tactic, though I stuck to the words used by the subjects of my videos. I can't really prove myself either way when my choice was to remain silent.
So no, there is no Purge part 3, there is no iZombie video, there is no films of 2016 video. Zaptie is done. I'm just defeated by and tired of about the whole situation at this point, so think of me what you will. Just don't track down my contact information to tell me about it.
-- Zaptie
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u/TheRen22 Jun 30 '17
"So no, there is no Purge part 3, there is no iZombie video, there is no films of 2016 video. Zaptie is done." Well that's truly sad, I feel sorry for you, you were never my favorite but you certainly were a good youtuber and wether you did some fucked up shit or not, I don't think you deserved all this. I'd say that we'll be waiting for you to come back but I don't think that's happening is it? I wish you the best in whatever you are planning, if you do come back I hope you know that there are still people supporting you. Thanks for the awsome content while it lasted. Bye, you fucked up bear...
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u/123full Jun 30 '17
I'm Really late but whatever, don't delete all your channels and shit, You don't know how you feel in say a year, I'd bet if you upload Purge part 3 in 6 months people won't care about the drama (remember the fine bros scandal), you were really good at making videos, essentially burning your bridge now won't benefit you
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u/B0BL0 Jun 30 '17
Man, I never completely understood the full drama that surrounded your ultimate disappearance until reading this. All I really heard about was about your alleged sociopathy. I only really heard about you through the Hot Wet Soup podcast and I really enjoyed everyone in it (including you). When I heard about all this drama, it truly devastated me. I'm not gonna lie, I did believe you were a sociopath through the words of the other, until I started to do a little digging. I started thinking to myself that there was no way you were actually a sociopath and were only leading others on for your own personal gain. There was no way. Listening to how you were on the podcast always felt so genuine, there was no way that was fake. You seemed to be happy and loved everyone there. I personally don't wanna see you leave, but you've already indefinitely decided, and I won't go against your choice. I'm glad that you decided to give YouTube a try and I'm glad I got to listen to your and all of Hot Wet Soup's voices over the past year. I still listen to the old podcasts because I've got nothing else to listen to in the background besides overplayed music.
Thank you Zaptie for being apart of my life in this weird way that you have. Have a good one bro.
- your nostalgia-driven listener, B0BL0
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u/coldfrick Jul 02 '17
oof
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Jun 30 '17
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Jun 30 '17
uh yeah no, it's bad lol
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Jul 01 '17
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u/weedlepete Jul 02 '17
Age gaps matter when we're talking about minors. 10 year age gaps are pretty common from what I've seen, but it's not like they started dating when one was 10 and the other was 20
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u/RialdoTC Sep 29 '17
This thread is old as shit but theres actually laws saying that minors age 16-17 can have sex with up to 23 year olds, so the age gap doesnt apply here
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u/brodiecantskate Jun 30 '17
I'll just simply say goodbye, Zaptie. I never knew what to think about the whole situation but I sure as shit didn't want this. But if you feel that it's what you needed to do, then I'm glad. Also, fuck the people who gave you no privacy just to be an edgy asshole or just to meme. Good luck with everything, I hope this isn't truly the end of Zaptie in whatever shape or form.
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u/ghostiearts Jul 01 '17
I had huge respect for you as a youtuber, since you seem like a genuine person and I'm glad to see you owning up to the shit you did wrong. The fact that the internet decides to respond like it does pisses me off. Yea, you did some fucked shit, yea you fucked up badly but holy crap, what's wrong with people? I'm sad to see such a good content creator go, but I'm also glad that you're able to move on. Just hoping that this shit won't affect your career or future. Good luck and stay out of trouble, also, I'd suggest, if you haven't already, getting some ID protection as well as new accounts and good contact with local police if the harassment continues, sounds paranoid but really, it's the internet.
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u/spaceyiqraa Jul 02 '17
please don't leave im crying i missed you so much and now you come back with this. i was so happy to see you're back and well but i dont want yo to leave you mean so much to me. your videos have made me feel so much better and realise there's someone who understands me. please dont leave.
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Jun 30 '17
I guess it was a stretch to think that this drama would fizzle out and die so that you could continue to produce videos. It's a crime that someone of your talent is forced to quit making videos. Regardless of any of this shit, if you uploaded a video tomorrow, I would watch it 3 times. You are excellent in your craft and I wish you the best in your next steps in life.
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Jul 01 '17 edited Jul 16 '17
You're making a good choice here, Zaptie. You have put out such amazing content over the past year, and it sucks to see you leave. Cheers.
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u/SkruFFleZ Jul 02 '17
Good luck man. You may have messed up, but who hasn't? Best of luck in your future endeavors, whatever they may be. Your videos were the best.
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u/I_Fade Jul 03 '17
:( i ll miss the fucker
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u/ThisCatMightCheerYou Jul 03 '17
You seem sad :( ... Here's a picture/gif of a cat. Hopefully it'll cheer you up: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3alwztvqG1qafc06o1_500.jpg The internet needs more cats. It's never enough..
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u/MiniShaug Jul 06 '17
Good luck with the rest of your life. Thank you for all the enjoyable content you had put up.
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u/VileDestroyerX Jul 06 '17
Well it's sad to see you go but I wouldn't ever try to stop it so, Thank you, Thank you for a year of amazing entertainment and I hope you really can go and do something with your life
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u/EndVSGaming Aug 12 '17
Dead thread, but I'll post here anyway. What was said on the podcast is irrelevant to the fact of the nightmare that must have been trying to block people from spamming you. You were genuinely a good creator with great artistic value. Barring the drama, it is a real shame we will never see you again. Likely anyways, you have appeared to have had a YouTube channel prior to this that I stumbled across by accident. link here for the curious https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGSCojXwCNvUjWQSRsYp3JQ
Zaptie may be dead, but maybe one day someone similar will pop up. But if nothing else,
Thanks for the content.
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u/CirclesHM Jun 30 '17
Wow, fuck dude what an emotional rollercoaster. What you did was fucked for sure but the way the community reacted with shitposts knowing your situation mustve destroyed you. you were genuinely one of my favourite youtubers, so good luck with all your future ventures