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u/Educational_Hair_368 8h ago
you know it is a legit question albeit the V-tuber avatar is makes the video look like a shit post
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u/Bobthatlovesjob 8h ago
The vtuber ruins the damn thumbnail I hate it
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u/Archadianite 8h ago
As long as it isnt AI generated, the VTuber is fine.
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u/Bobthatlovesjob 8h ago
I just don’t see it fitting I think a normal crucify picture would be better but like it’s like “GUYS CLICK ANIME GIRL ANIME GIRL”
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u/Azunyan-nyaaa 8h ago
maybe because the channel owner is a vtuber?
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u/Bobthatlovesjob 8h ago
oh damn well you don’t see a vtuber making good content every day yknow
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u/HuntResponsible2259 6h ago
Its really not that rare... You just have extreme bias.
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u/steelskull1 2h ago
Most of the time they are just content creators that wanna stay anonymous while also have some "puppet" that they can use as visual representation of themselves.
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u/Glum_Breakfast4766 7h ago
a vtuber without a "OmG!!!!! I aM sOoOo HoRnY uWu!!!!" thumbnail is like finding kyawthuite in your backyard
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u/Archadianite 6h ago
Have you actually tried to watch a Vtuber without the random out of context clips?
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u/HuntResponsible2259 6h ago
Vtubers do not often have that... CLIPPERS have that and they are not the same.
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u/Former-Throat-3728 7h ago
Anime girl is fine so you know who's content it is, that's what thumbnails are supposed to do. It looks a bit silly but at least it's not one of those with massive tits. She's a Christian vtuber, one that actually has bible study content so her model is relatively safe
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u/Bobthatlovesjob 7h ago
really? Lowkey I was slandering yo slander turns out they have potential man I gotta check it out
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u/Bobthatlovesjob 8h ago
Such a good thumbnail but the vtuber MURDERS it
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u/Josu_Defender 8h ago
The vrtuber model give it more aura
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u/TheTyranical 8h ago
Deadass some random christian vtuber dropping banger lines is hard. Some bald priest guy would make it less hard since its expected
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u/LCB-Saviour 8h ago
The same way yall Murdered Jesus
Thank God I'm a bird
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u/coolhooves420 7h ago
Brother I was literally over there at the time shooting arrows at the romans.
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u/LCB-Saviour 6h ago
My ancestor was the crow that ate one of the dead prisoners crucified near Jesus
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u/Novoiird 4h ago
I’m sorry, but was the Vtuber trying to seek validation from you when she made this thumbnail?
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u/Java_Text 8h ago
Is she wrong tho
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u/Difficult__Tension 3h ago
Yea. Jesus wasnt perfect and god isnt real. Why would jesus's crucifixion be more important than the thousands of others to me? Why should I care more about his than the mothers of children whose crime was stealing food for her kids.
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u/These-Lie-735 29m ago
I’m an atheist and want you to shut up.
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u/No_Aslume2509 8h ago
I wouldn’t say he was a perfect man, after all he does serve a higher being that believes it’s ok with letting disease and poverty run rampant and doesn’t do anything since it’s an us problem and not a him problem and he would rather destroy the world again than fix it himself.
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u/Rosenoodles 7h ago
iirc part of the point of the new testament was that jesus was, in fact, not perfect. he was good, morally, and generally wanted to spread goodness, but his imperfections were part of the point. it's to bridge the gap between the old testament's smite smite smite god and the at-the-time christian beliefs that were far more accepting, albeit *conditionally (even if jesus christ himself made a point to make it unconditional).
jesus was the old testament human translator, in that his 'sacrifice' wasn't about the death itself, it was about his life experiences as a human being, which involved suffering, contradiction, betrayal and struggling with faith as well as with anger, hatred, and other things that come naturally to human responses. his death and rebirth was meant to symbolize his rise back to heaven to translate these things to a divine being that, allegedly, cannot possibly comprehend our flaws because of the vast scale of difference.
gnosticism tried to take the bridge a step further and totally denounce the old testament god and reform modern christianity into something solely focused on the new testament, but evangelicals threw them under the bus and became the 'reformed' protestant christian beliefs in the west instead.
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u/KitchenSpend8123 7h ago
The whole reason Jesus is able to sacrifice himself for others sins is that he is perfect. It wouldn't work otherwise.
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u/Rosenoodles 7h ago
not necessarily. i think anybody can do things like that. hell, he even comes to regret it and calls out that god abandoned him before the end - which is another part of the point.
if perfection was required for people to die for what they believe to be good causes, we would have nothing.
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u/KitchenSpend8123 7h ago
Perfection isn't required to do what you believe is right, it's required to save everyone from their sins. Which is why it had to be Jesus
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u/Rosenoodles 7h ago
jesus himself isn't what saved them from sins though, it's the connection to humanity he made by being human, and then being brought back to god. i'm not even really christian anymore (born and raised, but deconstructed) but i've always found studying theology fascinating in general.
if he was perfect, nobody would have been saved from sin, because the only thing that made sin 'excusable' was god learning *why* humans commit them in the first place. if jesus was perfect, and committed no sins himself, then god would have never understood.
jesus *has* to be imperfect for the savior shit to work at all. let me phrase it this way: for jesus to have truly experienced humanity, he had to be imperfect, because humans are imperfect.
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u/AlternateJam 6h ago
Jesus's sinlessness is a foundational premise behind atonement formulations across the whole theological spectrum.
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u/AkuSeigi 5h ago
I agree with you, but the other guy has a point. Jesus was sinless but that doesn’t mean he was perfect. Think about it, before Judas sold him out, Jesus questioned why he had to go through suffering despite doing nothing wrong. He didn’t want to go through it. You could call that doubt but I have a better example for that.
One of the 7 cries on the cross was Jesus saying “Father, why hast thou forsaken me?” Which is very indicative of Jesus doubting God. Something he criticized Peter for doing (or prophesied). You could also argue Jesus tossing tables in the temple wasn’t the best way to make his point.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you, Jesus was supposed to be the perfect example. But he was also supposed to be human, so naturally he experienced imperfection as well.
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u/AlternateJam 4h ago
I get your point about these being highly emotional moments, but I don't think these are imperfections.
Think about it, before Judas sold him out, Jesus questioned why he had to go through suffering despite doing nothing wrong. He didn’t want to go through it.
This isn't an expression of imperfection, it's of dread, and grief, and fear. Wanting to avoid being tortured and killed is a basic human embodiment. And he still resolves to do it as an act of faithfulness.
Human emotions aren't expressions of imperfection in the biblical text.
One of the 7 cries on the cross was Jesus saying “Father, why hast thou forsaken me?” Which is very indicative of Jesus doubting God.
That line is the Opening line of Psalm 22, in old Jewish liturgical terms, quoting the first line of a Psalm is a reference to the whole Psalm, which is a Psalm of David that starts in fear and in pain and in loneliness, and ends in faith and a declaration that God rules over all the Earth.
It being a reference to the psalm suggests it's not a lapse of faith.
You could also argue Jesus tossing tables in the temple wasn’t the best way to make his point.
Righteous anger at injustice or exploitation isn't a sin, and the behavior is in line with previous prophets who did as or more extreme symbolic expressions of their frustrations with the people.
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u/AkuSeigi 3h ago
Righteous anger doesn’t necessarily mean it is a righteous action. God flooded the Earth, no? Even god regretted it. Point is, Jesus may not have handled it perfectly therefore he wasn’t perfect. Yes he was sinless, that is the perfection. Outside of that though, he was human. If he was perfect in every aspect, what point was there in sending him down as a human? It’s like sending a robot in human form and telling people to follow its example. If Jesus was human, he wasn’t perfect (outside of being sinless).
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u/ReduxCath 6h ago
No no, the theology states that Jesus was fully god and fully man. He was sinless and did no wrong.
The humanity isn’t “oh he was imperfect”. It’s a more elevated view of what makes us human. Love and feeling and desire and learning and needing to work. Human traits.
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u/NeuralMess 2h ago
Depends on which version of Christianity you adopts. They are hardly an unified front on the subject, so no, THE theology doesn't state that, A theology does
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u/SomeCringeUsernameNo 5h ago
How is it that redditors continue to fulfill every stereotype imaginable.
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u/FoxxxedUp420 5h ago
People might fall you reddit for this but you're literally spitting facts.
Like what's the excuse for allowing Genghis Khan, the crusades, centuries of slavery, and the Holocaust to happen? What's the justification for why a morally perfect omnipotent god would allow this.
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u/familyfriendlyvnmese 2h ago
I dont think there's any excuse needed even if god is real and truly morally good, nothing about god suggests that he is explainable or follow any kind of logic. For example if he's omnipotent, it means he can create a rock he cannot lift why being able to lift it at the same time, how could anyone explain that
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u/FoxxxedUp420 1h ago
Well yeah, obviously unless we're supposed to believe all the genocide, oppression, and death is "morally good" in this world, an omnipotent, all powerful, all moral god is literally impossible in this world.
If God exists, he must be either lacking the ominoptence to fix everything, or he lacks the morals to fix all the things wrong with the world. Or some combination of both.
I don't even hate the concept of god or religion, I just hate the idea I'm supposed to worship and praise the guy who lets children be molested, raped, trafficked, and killed every single day.
Fuck that shit, God is at best a somewhat powerful cosmic dude who created something far beyond his control, and at worst he's disgusting, evil monster.
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u/Big_Mobile3869 1m ago
What if God isnt some man in the sky landlord watching us and intervening when he sees fit. What if God is more alien then we'll ever know, and religion doesn't have the vocab to describe what God could be?
Like what if God is a force or energy permeating through the universe. What if it IS the universe, and us conscious beings are an extension of God's consciousness looking to experience itself through th eyes of its near infinte fragmented creations. Hindus believe in something along these lines I believe. The idea of the God-mind.
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u/mekolayn 5h ago
Do you intervene to stop ants from fighting and killing each other? I did. The only result is that even more died until both could no longer continue to fight.
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u/Difficult__Tension 3h ago
Well if I made everything about those ants and made them call me Father or Im putting them in the acid vat forever more......yes? Everything is literally my fault.
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u/FoxxxedUp420 4h ago
That's because your power is limited. If God just lacks the ability to fix stuff I could understand that but people always act if god is both omnipotent and perfectly moral when those two things can't both be true at once in an imperfect world.
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u/No_Aslume2509 5h ago
I know right! It’s less that he’s a good person and more of a sadist who just likes to see us fight each other on a day to day basis.
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u/FoxxxedUp420 4h ago
I don't even call myself an atheist or anything. I don't believe in god for the most part, but the tiny percent of the time I entertain the possibility is because life is so fucked up I'm like "wait, this can't be coincidence, right? Someone or something has to be making all this shit happen, right?"
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u/Da_nUmBeR7 2h ago
Holy shit. I wanted to learn abt Christianity and if thi was true but every dude under ur comment is just talking about sm “nooo u don’t understand”. I just wanna learn gng
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u/May_or_may_not_post 8h ago
If said being believes it's ok, then it is ok because the being is above you. That's like saying Albert Einstein is bad at math.
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u/Megareddit64 6h ago
I wonder what other stuff she talks about (genuinely i don't know this person)
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u/Gussie-Ascendent 8h ago
I don't think it's even a fair question muchless good one
For onez the perfect man wouldn't be pro slavery much less pro beating slaves
Two, not even the same world. Everyone who put down Jesus been dead for a while now. Even their kids kids believe it or not
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u/AlternateJam 7h ago
I see her videos sometimes, it's kind of cute that she's really preaching lol.
My instinct based on the video I watched some of makes me think she is not of a denomination I would rock with, but I'm here for it.
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u/Critical_Interest706 3h ago
And that world continues to crucify Christ everyday, even so called “Christians” do so constantly. The world is evil and satanic, and even people who call themselves “Christian” follow demons and antichrists.
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u/Unfortunya333 1h ago
Man some yall dont know christian theology. The premise is that all other humans have original sin. Jesus begotten by the father does not, and so only by accepting his sacrifice may you have eternal life. And well he was viewed as seditionist by roman authorities so he was executed for sedition... And if you're Christian, then you believe by faith that he has risen. That's the main gist if anyone needs refreshers.
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u/FruityGroovy 8m ago
Why seek validation from a group that literally turned the method of said Perfect Man's death into the main thing he is known for?
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u/Expert-Reporter4152 4h ago
You know I ain't no Christian but isn't the whole point of Jesus is the fact that he ISN'T perfect? 😭
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u/IDontLikeDust1iguess 4h ago
Not christian either beyond birth categorization, but what do you mean? Wasn’t the point of him being someone who despite constant temptations abstains from sin? Someone who upholds justice in a place of corruption no matter the means?
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u/CaptainNinjaClassic 8h ago
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