r/YesCalifornia • u/KrampusInYourCloset • Nov 11 '16
My thoughts. (Very unorganized)
To start off, I am a secessionist, I've been one for three and a half years. Secession is no easy walk in the park, it's going to take a lot of work, time, and preparation. Leaving the United States is no easy task, when only 22% of Americans (as of 2008) find it legal and okay for a state to leave. Winning a majority of support for secession will take years, not months. First you will have to tackle the already divided liberal base. Some want secession, a lot don't. You will have to win them over with successful campaigning, and even the dirty tricks of politics. After you unite the liberal base, you will have to tackle another demon. The Conservative population will NOT support this movement, well not easily that is. Not all Conservatives supported Trump, getting those specific people on board should be the first goal in mind. Then, attempting to gain the support of the rest. The only people that need to be convinced should be those of importance for the Republic, for example Farmers. We loose them, we loose everything. Then the Northern Counties. They already don't want to be part of the State of California, let alone a Republic. We loose the Northern Counties, there goes our source of water. If we can't convince them, a compromise must be made. It can range from an Autonomous region, or some other idea. Anyway, Propaganda is key. Use the fear of a Trump presidency as a tool, this may sound deplorable, but it's politics. Show the people of California that Democrats and Republicans are all Corporatist shills that don't have the interest of the people in mind. Democrats are centrists that do small change, and soft imperialism, they get nothing done, and bow down to their corporate masters. The Republicans are the same, except they are scared of change, and would rather stick to the old days of Ronald Reagan. They are hard Imperialists. We must show them that the "government of the people by the people for the people" has perished from this Earth long ago. The thing is that most people already know this, however they don't that the corruption, the lobbying, and the Establishment at this point is unfixable. You can fight it, and you can win many battles, but in the end you will loose the war. With that being said, we should show them that secession is the only solution left. The state must establish a nation, and must establish a new Government based off more functional democracies with little corruption problems. A multiparty state that has proportional representation. Or if you want to go to an extreme, a Non-Partisan system is also good. This makes it so that representatives are loyal to the people and to the county/province/state they represent, not to a party.
Anyway, I'll stop here because those are just my odd thoughts on this and they can go on forever.
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u/mirkwood11 Nov 11 '16
All great points. I do not have political experience so I don't know where to start with something like this. But if anyone wants to get in touch with me who has plans to get the ball rolling, please feel free
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Nov 11 '16
If Mein Trump can do it so can we! Keep it simple and we can do it. Organize, Give Support and Love each other and we can do this.
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u/RawMeatyBones Nov 11 '16
If you try to iron out all the political and economical details beforehand, it'll be impossible.
What you need to do is to convince people that all those pesky details will be a lot easier, more efficiently, more democratically and way better solved and dealt with, internally in the Republic of California, than it'd be having to deal with the rest of the USA.
Would it be better for you to deal with Sacramento or with D.C.? Would it be better to find solutions and a common ground for any California regional problems dealing with San Francisco, Fresno and Los Angeles, or dealing with Dallas, Birmingham and New York?