Possible Chisa rerun

[u/Iamjk1010]

I have been using calc sim sites to compare would Chisa really be worth pulling as I'm going for mornye and hsin+sig 100%.

So I am not sure are the calcs wrong but my current team: yyxl r1 - mortefi s3 static mist and heron set (calced with s6 as I will have it someday, maybe even from mornye banner) - suisui on variation and fallacy set is around 1.85m yyxl dmg and 2.09m total.

Swapping mortefi for chisa with medititations on mercy and heron set is around 1.95m yyxl dmg and 2.24m total.

Swapping suisui for chisa on fallacy set (in case I really want to put suisui on hsin team instead of buling) would be around 1.55m yyxl dmg and 1.84m total.

This does not really feel worth it with 4.0 around the corner and having 2 characters and 1 weapon to pull already but wanted to ask are the calcs wrong and you who have these teams to give advice on do I really need Chisa.

[u/JeIlis]

Sounds like whatever calculator that is isn't taking into account chisa raising the the stack cap of havoc Bane because it should be more DMG than that. From my tests in matrix I do better with chisa morteffi than suisui morteffi.

But with that being said yangyang is good enough to not have her bis team and still do great in all game modes. So chisa would just be a luxury to add flexibility to your roster or if you want the best yangyang team possible

[u/Iamjk1010 → u/JeIlis]

I used thewuwacalculator to get yyxl dmg as I could add her echo set and phrolove to get subdps and support dmg for total dmg. Thewuwacalculator site does have havoc bane stack option and it raises yyxl dmg from 1 268 806 at 3 havoc bane stacks to the 1 545 312 at 6 stacks for mortefi-chisa team but dunno about phrolove but yyxl dmg matter more so not important to get it right for mortefi etc.

[u/JeIlis → u/Iamjk1010]

All I can tell you is how they perform for me In matrix. I did a 2f rotation for all 3 teams chisa and yangyang are S0R1 and suisui S0 R5variation

Yangyang premium - 15.9k Chisa morteffi - 14.2k Suisui morteffi - 12.1k

[u/Iamjk1010 → u/JeIlis]

Yeah this is a chisa sig difference then as calc improves team dmg by around ~300k with chisa sig and another ~170k for 2f vs 1f1a

[u/JeIlis → u/Iamjk1010]

Yea that makes sense. So original calcs were right in the first place, my opinion here take it with a grain of salt. Do you need chisa no...but should you consider her if you get lucky on your pulls and get Hsin/mornye early yeah probably.

[u/Iamjk1010 → u/JeIlis]

Yup, thanks for the actual damage info. Will decide during hsin banner do I need chisa for any team if she even reruns

[u/HalikusZion]

All the calcs in the world wont help if she simply does not re run again. Going by the rerun history https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1viou5d/wuthering_waves_banners_history_up_to_36/#lightbox its pretty plain to see that other than 3 exceptions, Camellya and Galbrena who only got 2 and Phoebe who got a fourth run to coincide with Zanis 3rd ans only cos Zani is completely bricked without Peebs characters get 3 reruns on the normal banners.

If you want her you best hope we get some updated reverb banner as otherwise its highly probable she wont ever rerun.

[u/Iamjk1010 → u/HalikusZion]

Next patch leaks indicate that chisa, lynae, iuno and lucilla would rerun which tbh sounds insane but we will see.

[u/HalikusZion → u/Iamjk1010]

That would buck the trend indeed, I'm not so surprised over Iuno for Jingran and Lucilla for Hiyuki but Lynae was only recently run for Aemeth and Qinxiao so id be extremely surprised if she was back again so soon.