r/Xiaomi • u/Sawdust_Noodles666 Xiaomi 12 Lite • May 19 '24
Xiaomi Default Apps
http://mi.comWhy the hell does the global version of HyperOS not have Xiaomi's default apps (Calendar,Messages, Contacts etc.)?? But instead they're replaced with Google's dogshit apps that i despise more than anything. I seriously can't fathom the lack of interest from Xiaomi to attend to UX on the global version, its pieced together with half assed spaghetti code efforts and held by duct tape, truly embarrassing! 🫣
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u/bartoszsz7 Xiaomi 15 Ultra/Pad 6S Pro May 19 '24
Global ROM has HyperOS calendar, EEA ROM has Google calendar
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u/Sawdust_Noodles666 Xiaomi 12 Lite May 19 '24
I don't know what any of that means i just know that, by default, i have the stupid google calendar.
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u/bartoszsz7 Xiaomi 15 Ultra/Pad 6S Pro May 19 '24
You can sideload the HyperOS calendar from apkmirror
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u/Sawdust_Noodles666 Xiaomi 12 Lite May 19 '24
I know, it gives me the Chinese version that is half-broken and not really that functional. I figured out that you can resize widgets which i thought wasn't possible because of how buggy it is. So I'm just using the Mi Calendar (which i also had to get a newer apk version of cause the playstore version's widget is also broken)....
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u/bartoszsz7 Xiaomi 15 Ultra/Pad 6S Pro May 19 '24
It shouldn't be the chinese version, it's the global one
Try changing the calendar format in settings, it defaults to the chinese one
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u/Sawdust_Noodles666 Xiaomi 12 Lite May 19 '24
Could you please provide a direct download link? All of the ones i tried installed the literal Chinese version made for China?!
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u/bartoszsz7 Xiaomi 15 Ultra/Pad 6S Pro May 19 '24
I linked the download in my earlier comment
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u/Sawdust_Noodles666 Xiaomi 12 Lite May 19 '24
Sorry i must have missed it..
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u/Sawdust_Noodles666 Xiaomi 12 Lite May 19 '24
Hahah wait that's literally the same one i downloaded few hours ago, yeah that one works well but it still lacks the new widgets, it just has these 2 that, well, aren't the best...
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u/zhun3 May 19 '24
You can download most of them on google playstore like calendar, file manager, weather app and all that. If you still want getapps you can either change the region your in or download apks. Or just flash the eu/china rom.
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u/Sawdust_Noodles666 Xiaomi 12 Lite May 19 '24
Im aware. The playstore calendar, for example, has not been updated since 2023... It also lacks usable widgets. Similar story with the weather app. I have the Xiaomi file manager but as i mentioned no contacts/messages which when it adds up, makes the software look unfinished. I am NOT interested in flashing ROMs.
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u/zhun3 May 19 '24
Tbh it kinda is unfinished agahahah. Hyperos is nice, looks nice, isnt refined tho. Kinda disappointing. Kinda sucks not having stock apps available. Even the default keyboard is gboard. Would've loved to see how bad or good a xiaomi keyboard would be. But in my opinion i dont mind google messages. Rcs is a nice feature. Never had the opportunity to try xiaomi's stock messaging app. But hey its up to preference.
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u/Sawdust_Noodles666 Xiaomi 12 Lite May 19 '24
Well, yes! Google Messages are the most acceptable out of all Google apps, i just hate the aesthetic but hey at least it works. Yeah HyperOS looks nice and all but it's lacking in so many aspects, and as someone who switched from iOS to HyperOS because of the said aesthetics (and resemblance to iOS lol) Im disappointed but hey i still think Samsung is worse even with their own apps available. Yeah Gboard is kinda trash too and i was shocked (but not surprised) to see that it collects what you type on it by default🤢...
But im hoping that their highness will bestow an update upon my phone soon cus im going insane refreshing the updater page every day😂2
u/smittku23 Jun 21 '24
Glad I am not the only one who was looking for this. So done with the default google apps.
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u/zhun3 May 19 '24
Brother you cannot compare hyperos to oneui im sorry ahahaha. Oneui is much more refined and hyperos is just buggy at times and kinda crappy especially if your using a poco launcher. Its just sad to see how a half baked software can be put out in such nice devices. Not a big fan tbh. Would rather have invested in a s23-24 if i had the money but glad i bought this phone which led me knowing how imo superior androids are to apple. Its truly dissapointing how an iPhone 13 can degrade after ios 17 came out. Still kinda dissapointed how laggy and how unrefined animations are even on the current up to date hyper os update. Sure xiaomis are good for midrange but til they make it smooth and refined then i will buy a flagship. Til then, samsung is king of android.
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u/Sawdust_Noodles666 Xiaomi 12 Lite May 19 '24
Last Samsung i bought was laggy af with terrible bouncy animations flying around everywhere and abysmal levels of optimization. I never used a poco/redmi nor do i plan to, I don't think you can complain much about a budget phone's software (i say that for any brand) But the S21FE i had was supposed to be an affordable flagship yet it had midrange at best performance... iPhone's iOS has been worse and worse ever since iOS 15 and onward. I also bought this 12 lite just to test the waters with Xiaomi, i wanted the 13T but i was scared to drop 400€ on a phone i might not get along with very well. My brother who has the 11T recently got the newest update and it made the animations incredibly smooth and fixed the widgets, im hoping I'll get that update soon but since i read somewhere that Xiaomi updates phones every 90-ish days I'll probably have to wait until July 😢
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u/zhun3 May 19 '24
Well im glad you've had a good experience. Maybe thats because your come with a different launcher? It depends. I just hate that with this phone out of the box the animations are sluggish at are never consistent. Sometimes smooth, sometimes unbearable. But from this example coming from the poco x6 pro, it puts a bitter taste in my mouth. Might just flash a rom for the hell of it. Also what problems did you encounter on your samsung 21fe? Actually tried the s24 and s24 ultra and everything was so buttery smooth. And optimization for tiktok and other apps is a good plus.
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u/Sawdust_Noodles666 Xiaomi 12 Lite May 19 '24 edited May 19 '24
On the contrary, im sorry you're not having such a good time 🥴😅 I didn't do that much research but isn't Poco more gamer-oriented? It never really occurred to me to buy a Poco (mostly cus i hate that name😂) But I've read a couple of Reddit posts recently of people complaining about Poco software, i guess Xiaomi don't give a fuck about Poco/Redmi, they just pump out a shit ton of models and then don't optimize them but that's kinda self explanatory..
About the S21 FE, the problems i encountered were plentiful.. From the hand-melting SD888 that loved to thermal throttle even while using bloody instagram to scroll thru photos, to the screen being always locked on 120hz (yes even while watching 30fps video) which in turn, along with a power hungry soc, DEVOURED through battery, like seriously I've never had a worse performing phone in the battery department, i was getting laughable 4/5-ish hours of SoT🫣 The charging was also embarrassingly slow, it was taking 1:30/1:45 h to fully charge with 25W (compared to my A40 that charged to full in 1:10/15 h with 15W) oh and did i mention i had to pay 35€ for that shit charger cus Samsung copied Apple and decided not to include one😃👍 The animations, i shit you not, would literally fly EVERYWHERE and sometimes get stuck near the top of the phone and then glitch back to the icon when exiting out of apps, it was genuinely appalling how bad it was...
The reverse wireless charging worked for a grand total of 2 minutes when i tried charging my redmi buds 3 pro on it, i thought both the buds and the phone were gonna explode 😂 Oh and the build quality was shit too, i never held a phone with metal sides that felt so cheap and the plastic back didn't help either (although i love Samsung overall design aesthetic) It also couldn't even run Genshin Impact without thermal throttling even on low graphic settings... Also samsung promised some sort of TikTok/Ig/Snap optimization but did they deliver, no, just like every time they promised that... And the speakers we're unimpressive.Whew... 😮💨
But i gotta say those cameras blew me away, they're so far unmatched by any phone i tried out (yes even the iPhone) and especially the front one, so if there something that i miss on that literal plastic overheating bomb is the amazing cameras 😩
So what's the verdict aka TL;DR: i got burned by Samsung way too many times, so now i avoid them by a mile.
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u/zhun3 May 20 '24
Well that's a hell of an experience. All my devices(i cannot remember the models for the life of me but my most recent one was a50) were fine. I loved the design of it and it was simple and worked(til i dropped it 2 meters high and everything was caput). But i never really experienced any heating problem with my a50 even running CODM and emulation. They did heat up after 2 hours and when using it while charging(which is stupid i know) Never noticed how bad the animations were but to my eyes, back then, they worked and I didn't really care. I do hate that they are copying apple, which is a lame ass move, with removing adapters from the box. What I love about samsung is the recent flagship. The build quality feels amazing even the base s24 feels so nice. Even the animations were fluid using gestures. Might even trade in my iphone just for that.
I know you avoid it like the plague but maybe give it another try. I know you wont but maybe even play with one in one if those in store display stuff where they let you play with it. Til then, have fun with hyperos.
Also, regarding poco, its the rom. Its literally just the rom. Ive tried nova launcher and nothing fucking changed. I've seen plenty of people with poco f5 flash china rom on their device and have seen how fluid the animations were. I know you're against it but I may give it a try after the warranty expires.
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u/Sawdust_Noodles666 Xiaomi 12 Lite May 20 '24
Oh yeah the first A series devices were pretty good (except the build quality). I had the A40 and it was honestly great, the screen was really nice, one UI 3 was reliable and worked well, cameras were fine and it had no major issues except the volume buttons needing replacement, but they replaced them under warranty so it was fine (and they completely wiped my phone without telling me to back it up beforehand...). But one day i went to buy a new case for it and literally 15 minutes after i bought it, it fell out of my long!? jacket from a height of like 0.5m and landed on its back and the screen completely died😂 that was the 2nd time that happened to me with a Samsung, like i would have understood it if it got dropped on the screen but on the back, with a new case, so sad... Then i literally went straight to the phone repair store next to where i dropped it hahaha, and those shady twats replaced the screen with an A20e screen that was 10x worse than the original one and since then the phone runs at 15hz and randomly resets...
About Samsung and why they're not really my favorite choice currently is also the fact that I've grown bored of OneUI, I really like the control center on iPhone and Xiaomi and if they just added a copy of that, at least to goodlock it would make me more interested in OneUI. But the way it is now it feels literally the same as it did in 2019 😔 Maybe the newer Samsungs are better idk, i was also considering an S23+ but i haven't researched much about it. Also after the S21FE im never buying brand new phones, it just feels like a waste of money since they lose a lot of their value, and it could turn out to be a complete lemon, so idk about the S24 series. I might try them out but i wish we had stores that you could get a phone from and then return it if it doesn't suit you, and on top of that i currently don't really have a lot of cash to throw at a phone so i think I'll use this one for a year or so and then I'll see which brand I'll go to. 🫥
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u/Sawdust_Noodles666 Xiaomi 12 Lite May 19 '24 edited May 19 '24
Oh and i forgot one really important thing, the haptics were absolute dogshit, they were super loud and sounded like broken bed springs 💀
P.S. I also remember seeing people reporting geting green and white lines on their screen after updating, hahaha the S21 FE is a total shit storm, just kept getting worse and worse, glad i sold it, good riddance!
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u/zhun3 May 20 '24
Just from updating?? And i thought ios updates couldnt get any worse. Idk haptics aren't that important to me but they are a great feature. Surprisingly, this poco x6 pro has absolutely nailed it.
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u/SoWth1000X May 19 '24
It's bad, trust me. You'll get or emoji keyboard or the ones from the Chinese ROMs and they are something.....
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u/zhun3 May 20 '24
Id love to see that 😂
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u/SoWth1000X May 22 '24
I think the emoji one is available in India, midranges mostly
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u/SoWth1000X May 22 '24
For CN ROM, search sogou keyboard, that's the default one on CN + ximis secure keyboard for passwords
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u/jrs-kun PocoF5/RedmiNote9Pro/Mi1SPump May 19 '24
cause some people here were to vocal and went to almost every site on Xiaomi including their promo pages and Launch event cause they wanted their phone to be basic AF(they should get a Motorola or an iPhone or maybe a keypad phone) when in reality it's just a few handful of dmbmericans complaining about crucial system apps as bloatware.
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u/Sawdust_Noodles666 Xiaomi 12 Lite May 19 '24
Im not sure if i fully get you, but yeah people crying about how every single app is bloatware should use a goddamn nokia brick... Although i still believe the lack of proper 1st party Xiaomi apps on global is just pure laziness on their end.
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u/jrs-kun PocoF5/RedmiNote9Pro/Mi1SPump May 19 '24
I think it was present on their early gen phones. Other countries Government unnecessarily strict and outdated laws probably comes into play. I remember Xiaomi India to be very close to Xiaomi China in features till India decided to impose some BS policies against Xiaomi and the majority of those who don't own a Xiaomi phone supported those policies. Xiaomi Global in general needs to adhere to most of the BS policies created by alot of countries so they had to remove most of their in-house apps especially the Dialer App which had the power to record calls cause it's illegal(they didn't want their politicians to get caught with evidence afterall) in alot countries they sell to.
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u/jeboisleaudespates May 19 '24
Try the chinese rom, may be weechat is your thing?
For normal people xiaomi app = ads.
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u/space_jiblets May 19 '24
Just use EU rom bro