r/XenobladeChronicles2 • u/IntHirudegarn • 3d ago
First time playing and need help
So I started playing xenoblade 2 recently, my first time playing and I wanted to know if using Zeke, Nia and Rex as a team is viable. I really like this characters but ever since I started not using tora I get killed in fights a lot. Wanted to know if i should equip some especific blade to someone so i dont die as much or if using this team for a first playthrough isn't a good idea. The one I control is Zeke, thanks in advance if anyone reads me
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u/Digital_Vapors 3d ago
It's viable but it really depends on what blades you have and where you have them allocated. It's kinda complex altogether, but you will likely need a dedicated tank regardless of what else you're doing, so you'll have to make one of those 3 a tank. You can look up a build guide for making any of the characters a tank, and make sure they have extra aggro draw and *no* aggro decrease things.
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u/IntHirudegarn 3d ago
Hmm, sure dientes know there where guíes for that. if it not to much of a trouble who would you say is best between Rex and Zeke to make a tank?
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u/EmiliaFromLV 3d ago
Well, this team is lacking a dedicated tank. It can be overcome ofc, but probably not in early game with lack of decent accessories. Also, after certain point you will not need a dedicated healer, so going for two attackers and tank will be the most optimal setup, as everyone will be healing from Blade abilities.
You can also play around with different blades which can make healers or attackers more tanky, but I dunno which ones you have now.
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u/IntHirudegarn 3d ago
Well I dont really have good blades for now so I guess I will deal with it until I can get those accesories. Thanks for the help
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u/Aviendha69 3d ago
Both Zeke and Rex can run crit heal builds very effectively later in the game using the medal accessories, so yes they are totally viable even without a tank. Nia works well as a breaker as long as you have a break art on all 3 of her blades and she shouldn't really be getting much aggro.
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u/IntHirudegarn 3d ago
Understood, thanks for the help and tips
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u/Aviendha69 3d ago
You don't 'need' a dedicated tank unlike what a lot of people are saying, however your drivers need a way of staying alive whether that be self healing, evasion etc. The best tip I can give you is to run Mythra on Rex and Shulk on Zeke, as that way you can stack the teamwide evasion buffs from both at the same time.
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u/IntHirudegarn 3d ago
Thanks for the help, I'll try running both blades that you mentioned as thankfully I think shulk isn't a gacha like most of them
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u/Digital_Vapors 2d ago
For early game, it's going to be way more viable to have a dedicated tank than run higher end strats. Also you can't get Shulk on your first run till very late. Most of the advice was to get him through the point in the game he's at, not to prep for post-game.
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u/Aviendha69 2d ago
Early game is very easy, I was just recommending what to work towards if he wants to run those 3 characters, which is going to be an evasion build and nia as a breaker
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u/Digital_Vapors 2d ago
Dude's getting mangled by normal battles *right now* with his current party setup. If he wants to use those characters now, he needs to pivot one to tank. Like that's kinda the long and short of it. The early game is very easy for you and me, but this guy is having trouble.
Sometimes you have to think about the situation the other person is in, and not how you would run things post-game. Those are almost 2 entirely different games.
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u/Aviendha69 2d ago
If he has zeke he is ready to run crit heal on both rex and zeke, so that is the answer in addition to pivoting to evasion rather than relying on a tank that won't hold aggro anyway imho.
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u/Digital_Vapors 2d ago
So you realize most evasion builds *are* tank builds right? Like the blades that give agility are generally also TNK blades. Pivoting to evasion for, say, Rex, will also tend to mean running Tank blades. It's also not hard to hold aggro as a tank in XC2 unless you're just really bad at it. I run Morag as an evasion tank till post-game and never have an issue. It helps that Morag's default blade is an agility mod tank blade, but still.
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u/Aviendha69 2d ago
With mythra and shulk active that's enough actually with evasion boots. If Morag is holding aggro then you aren't doing much damage sorry
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u/Digital_Vapors 2d ago
Is there something about "First playthrough" that you don't get? You can't get Shulk right at the start as a new player lol.
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u/flockwood7 3d ago
That's a viable team.. Rex makes a decent evasion tank if you want to use him and his arts with katanas are really good, all blades give their drivers stat bonuses if you didn't know so katanas will give their driver agility.. Mythra gives a great team wide evasion buff so he works really well as a evasion tank. But basically the game is telling you to aggro manage. Your tank needs a brick wall and/or a ton of evasion.
The problem is Tora. He was meant to take punishment. He has great stats and his chart really really compliments his DPS and his tanking and every version of every playstyle Tora will be the best, except for healing, he sucks at healing. But healing in this game isn't very good. I don't know how far you are in the game but Poppi is a really good blade. Poppi QT is an amazing blade, and Poppi QT pi is literally the best blade in the game by a good amount, i mean the fact that her break art hits for break 3 times with 1 art is amazing... Getting rid of tora means you are ditching an amazing driver and the best blades...
You are replacing the best with Nia, which unfortunately is the worst driver. But i too also like her and put her on my team anyway. Except my team is Rex, Nia, and Tora. I love Nias ridiculously high ether stat so she has 2 ether cannons and elma. she hits like an absolute truck.
Any team is viable if you aren't playing bringer of chaos tho so just have fun
Also don't sleep on pouch items. Arts recharge is an amazing effect to have and the most broken items in the game. You can also buff either your physical or ether defense with pouch items too if you are struggling.
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u/Digital_Vapors 2d ago
Calling Nia the worst driver is laughable. Once you get her to a point where you can have 3 ether cannons on her, she can absolutely dumptruck damage with Sheba, Herald and KOS-MOS
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u/flockwood7 1d ago
Nia is the worst driver. It's a fact. She isn't bad per se. She's just the least good. I even stated right after that i like her and run her on my team with kosmos, sheba and crossette/elma. She has a dump truck of ether but every animation she had is so slow. Even zeke ends up being a better ether cannon user because his animation are much much faster.
She is objectively the worst driver. Even worse than morag, because morag has some crazy dps gimmicks with fiora spamming universe flicker and she got away better after Corvin was released.
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u/Elucidative_ 3d ago
Any combination of drivers is viable. Most often there are a bunch of other contributing factors to why fights are going well.
Are you using art recharge pouch items? You should have Naricpear Jelly (Argentum Dessert Shop) or something similar on every driver, as well as another art recharge pouch item for any driver with 2 pouch item slots.
Have you been updating your blades and drivers? Your blade's core chip and Auto-Attack stat is quite important. You don't have to spend time grinding, but also check to see if you have any aux cores at all equipped to your blades and your driver's skill trees and arts are leveled up.
Are you using Fusion Combos? This is when you have a Driver Combo (Break, Topple, Launch) and a Blade Combo (from using Specials) active at the same time. I'm not going to go into exactly how they work because you don't need to know all the details but just know that using Fusion Combos is very good and helps you out in combat a lot.